16:59:39 <davidlenwell> #startmeeting refstack
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17:00:23 <coolsvap> hello
17:01:06 <davidlenwell> Hello coolsvap
17:01:12 <sarob> Yellow
17:01:18 <zehicle_in_air> o/
17:01:24 <davidlenwell> roll call?
17:01:25 <catheri1> hello
17:01:44 <rockyg> o/
17:01:57 * sarob still lurking
17:02:13 * zehicle_in_air has hard stop at :20
17:02:32 <davidlenwell> Good morning everyone .. I want to appologize in advance .. I didn't get home from vegas last night until 4am ..
17:02:45 <zehicle_in_air> but did you win?
17:02:52 <rockyg> I thought that was your excuse *last* week;-)
17:02:54 <davidlenwell> I did
17:03:44 <davidlenwell> anyways .. with zehicle_in_air on a plane and me exausted ... I thought we'd keep in short and sweet
17:03:54 <davidlenwell> agenda: specs, f2f, open discussion
17:03:56 <rockyg> ++
17:03:57 <zehicle_in_air> +1 (esp w/ f2f
17:04:16 <davidlenwell> exactly
17:05:18 <davidlenwell> So im a little behind .. my vacation was extended a few days.. my brother and I won big at craps and the casino gave us a free suite .. so I really haven't worked all week .
17:05:57 <zehicle_in_air> you were able to unblock the review queue, which was great
17:06:16 <davidlenwell> yes I did do that before I left
17:06:29 <zehicle_in_air> are there items that should go in before the f2f?
17:06:39 <zehicle_in_air> sorry.... back to specs
17:06:58 <davidlenwell> well I think that specs are all we need to think about landing
17:07:07 <davidlenwell> and they'll land when they are finished with review
17:07:10 <rockyg> is anyone following rally spec(s)?  I saw they released.  Wondering if their gui for test setup might work with us.
17:07:35 * zehicle_in_air parking lot > Dell is putting two people full time onto refstack work.  We can talk about work for them at the F2F
17:07:36 <davidlenwell> rockyg: .. it might .. I'll review their specs before f2f
17:08:08 <rockyg> zehicle_in_air stuff is great in that it focuses where other projects aren't and provide good visuals
17:08:22 <zehicle_in_air> thanks
17:08:40 <rockyg> Catheri1 should review and fill in connectors, maybe?
17:08:43 <zehicle_in_air> rockyg, I think DefCore discussion from yesterday will help with that
17:08:46 <catheri1> thx
17:08:59 <rockyg> Yes
17:09:10 <catheri1> once your review that I can go on to write the actually API spec
17:09:12 <zehicle_in_air> if people are OK w/ my direction so far, I'll compelte the specs before the F2F
17:09:15 <catheri1> then we can start coing
17:09:31 <davidlenwell> I'm good with your direction zehicle_in_air
17:09:52 <davidlenwell> catheri1: I'll review today
17:10:00 <rockyg> Yup.
17:10:27 <catheri1> I also found out a few things when looking at Tempest master for my other spec
17:10:52 <rockyg> Been following the admin tests separation spec in QA.  Making comments for us.
17:11:01 <catheri1> I confirm that the test name as used on the core test JSON is not unique
17:11:14 <davidlenwell> uh oh
17:11:18 <ewindisch_> o/
17:11:31 <zehicle_in_air> really?!
17:11:33 <rockyg> Is it if more tree is provided?
17:11:36 <catheri1> yes
17:11:42 <catheri1> here is the example
17:12:06 <zehicle_in_air> are you only looking in the coretest.json file?  If so, that could be a transcription error
17:12:28 <catheri1> some of the test were first coded in compute.admin (path).. now they move the test to say volume and use the same test method name
17:12:28 <zehicle_in_air> HOWEVER, the DefCore is likely to make a change the combines the coretest and capabilities json files
17:12:58 * zehicle_in_air sad face.  oh, that's not the easy case I was hoping for
17:13:14 <zehicle_in_air> catheri1, I would consider that a tempest bug
17:13:21 <catheri1> so far I am looking at all the Tempest  API test (test has increase from 1296 to about 2500)
17:13:23 <zehicle_in_air> bug = issue to resolve oin that project
17:13:38 <davidlenwell> zehicle_in_air: +1
17:13:44 * zehicle_in_air looking forward to when we have OVER 9000
17:13:49 <catheri1> I am not sure it is a bug because tempest testid is a full path ID
17:13:56 <rockyg> Problem is, in most test frameworks, capabilities are directories above tests, so tests can have identical names but different paths
17:14:04 <davidlenwell> but the path to each test is unuiqe.. so im sure we can some with something
17:14:11 <catheri1> I am preparing a couple spreadsheet
17:14:19 <zehicle_in_air> ah, davidlenwell may be onto solution
17:14:30 <zehicle_in_air> not a problem to include /path/testname
17:14:34 <catheri1> we can discuss that on f2f for both DefCore and Rfstack
17:14:35 <davidlenwell> yes
17:14:35 <rockyg> Yeah, you need fully qualified name
17:14:52 <zehicle_in_air> as long as it's in the results
17:14:57 <davidlenwell> lets table that for the f2f
17:15:09 <davidlenwell> #topic f2f
17:16:30 <coolsvap> davidlenwell: when is the f2f planned?
17:16:53 <fcarpenter> Weds June 11
17:16:54 <davidlenwell> coolsvap:  Wed Jun 11, 2014 12pm – 6pm
17:17:00 <davidlenwell> at the piston office
17:17:10 <davidlenwell> which is at 126 post st in downtown sf
17:17:27 <fcarpenter> 126 Post St, 5th Floor, San Francisco, CA, 94108
17:17:32 <davidlenwell> thanks fcarpenter
17:17:49 <zehicle_descendi> I think we had an etherpad for the agenda
17:17:50 <davidlenwell> looks like we're loosing zehicle_descendi
17:17:55 <coolsvap> davidlenwell: I wanted to know if there is any plan for web meeting/hangout like stuff?
17:18:08 <davidlenwell> coolsvap: we can set up a hang out
17:18:10 <rockyg> should have it.
17:18:11 <davidlenwell> if we are not local
17:18:16 <zehicle_descendi> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack.2014-06-11
17:18:20 <davidlenwell> er.. you are not local
17:18:54 <ewindisch_> I presume it’s open?
17:19:07 <davidlenwell> ewindisch_:  indeed
17:19:12 <rockyg> We should invite some Qa/Tempest folks and schedule a short discussion with them.  and maybe rally?
17:19:19 <davidlenwell> you're welcome to join us
17:19:25 <rockyg> more the merrier
17:19:32 <zehicle_descendi> The DefCore meeting the following day is open too
17:19:53 <rockyg> gonna be a bear going to the city two days in a row.
17:19:54 <zehicle_descendi> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLighthouse.F2F
17:19:54 <ewindisch_> I’m busy (dockercon) on tuesday, but might be free Wednesday.
17:20:13 <davidlenwell> great!
17:20:14 <catheri1> I thought DefCore f2f meeting is one day before Refstack f2f
17:20:23 <zehicle_descendi> catheri1, after
17:20:24 <davidlenwell> docker already has its own con
17:20:26 <davidlenwell> ?
17:20:38 <ewindisch_> davidlenwell: yeah - but offtopic ;-)
17:20:53 <zehicle_descendi> DefCore is Thursday
17:20:59 <davidlenwell> indeed .. sorry .. distractable when Im tired
17:21:33 <zehicle_descendi> ewindisch_, your dockerstack talk looks interesting
17:21:43 <catheri1> another topic is for refstack.org to allow for cloud customized parameter input
17:22:07 <davidlenwell> catheri1:  lets also save that for the f2f
17:22:18 <zehicle_descendi> re: DefCore on Thurs.  Let's officially NOT have this meeting next week
17:22:27 <davidlenwell> yes
17:22:29 <rockyg> good point.  Add to the f2f agenda?
17:22:34 <catheri1> +1 add that to the f2f agenda
17:22:38 <davidlenwell> +1 on that
17:22:53 <rockyg> ++
17:23:12 <ewindisch_> +1
17:23:36 <davidlenwell> alright everyone.. if nobody has anything important to discuss before then I move we end early
17:23:44 <catheri1> also rockyg:'s spreadsheet ... for f2f discusion
17:23:45 * zehicle_descendi stowing my laptop now....
17:24:09 <rockyg> seconded and catheri1, yes.
17:24:30 <davidlenwell> okay.. thanks everyone!! see you next week .. lets keep those specs rolling in
17:24:54 <rockyg> ttfn
17:24:55 <davidlenwell> if you need anything from me just leave me a note in #refstack
17:25:02 <davidlenwell> #endmeeting