22:02:25 <rockyg> #startmeeting refstack
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22:02:29 <davidlenwell> there we go
22:02:29 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack'
22:02:29 <zehicle_at_dell> bingo!
22:02:42 <davidlenwell> we'll get the hang on this one day
22:02:47 <rockyg> There we go.  roll call for those who haven't typed in here since the reall start
22:03:04 <rockyg> :-)
22:03:05 <waiman> hi
22:03:23 <rockyg> Do we have an agenda?
22:03:43 <davidlenwell> I only really have a few things to share since last week
22:04:07 <rockyg> If not, #topic F2F next week
22:04:26 <davidlenwell> so the main thng I wanted to cover is getting us into stackforge
22:04:31 <rockyg> #topic F2F week of 3/3
22:04:35 <davidlenwell> its been a rocky path
22:04:43 <zehicle_at_dell> let's collect agenda items
22:04:46 <rockyg> #topic Stackforge
22:04:47 <davidlenwell> yeah ..
22:04:55 <zehicle_at_dell> since we have meeting on Monday
22:05:01 <zehicle_at_dell> and Demo on Tuesday
22:05:08 <davidlenwell> stackforge, f2f, demo
22:05:32 <davidlenwell> so we have a review to infra-config
22:05:33 <davidlenwell> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75226/
22:05:38 <davidlenwell> that will put us in stackforge
22:05:40 <rockyg> other stuff next week (lots of things happening locally and lots of folks around)
22:05:59 <rockyg> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75226/
22:06:19 <davidlenwell> however because the infra team has been hitting some hicups in their automation we are delayed till tomorrow
22:06:20 <davidlenwell> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/028130.html
22:06:29 <davidlenwell> they are now doing new project fridays
22:07:00 <davidlenwell> as you can see by that review that we have 3 +2's but not a +a .. they promise me we'll get the +A tomorrow and integrated
22:07:01 <rockyg> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/028130.html
22:07:14 <rockyg> kewl
22:07:21 <davidlenwell> yeah .. only took 8 days
22:07:35 <davidlenwell> not bad considereing the backlog they have
22:07:50 <tedchang> hi
22:08:10 <davidlenwell> So once we are live in stack forge catherineD and her people can actually contribute
22:08:15 <rockyg> will it build and be runnable?
22:08:31 <catherineD> yes..
22:08:35 <davidlenwell> we're missing the runnable part from catherineD's team
22:08:43 <davidlenwell> catherineD: does it pass pep8 now ?
22:08:47 <catherineD> yes
22:08:50 <davidlenwell> awesome
22:08:52 <rockyg> catherineD: double kewl
22:08:58 <davidlenwell> thats good news ..
22:09:12 <davidlenwell> so tomorrow when we are live .. I'll be in touch and we can get some code merged and tested
22:09:22 <rockyg> It also means we'll have a good repository to work from next week.
22:09:28 * zehicle_at_dell high 5 everyone
22:09:42 <davidlenwell> I have a 3 node cluster here at my house I can run tests against running piston cloud
22:09:43 <rockyg> would that be W//
22:09:53 <catherineD> sure.. Unfortunately I will be out-of-town tomorrow ..
22:10:15 <catherineD> great we need to test on some clouds that are out-side of our lab
22:10:32 <rockyg> +1
22:10:39 <zehicle_at_dell> #topic TCUP
22:10:46 <davidlenwell> indeed
22:10:58 <zehicle_at_dell> I was trying to get it to work w/ my Rackspace creds
22:11:07 <davidlenwell> did you have any luck ?
22:11:10 <zehicle_at_dell> but was not sure what to update in the config
22:11:16 <zehicle_at_dell> no, Alex was trying to help me
22:11:23 <zehicle_at_dell> I could get the CLI to work
22:11:37 <zehicle_at_dell> so I know it can connect
22:11:53 <zehicle_at_dell> I'll have some time tomorrow to play if you're available
22:12:01 <davidlenwell> I will be around all day
22:12:10 <zehicle_at_dell> when do you get in?
22:12:25 <davidlenwell> I start working at around 9 am pst
22:12:35 <zehicle_at_dell> cool, I'll ping you
22:12:55 <zehicle_at_dell> I'm trying to get creds for some other test clouds
22:13:19 <zehicle_at_dell> did we ever reduce the # of tests? we really only need a few for this part of the work
22:13:23 <davidlenwell> if I can get my router working the way I want it before then I can give you some on mine
22:13:28 <davidlenwell> yes we did
22:14:09 <zehicle_at_dell> so, for TCUP, we're planning a work session tomorrow at 9
22:14:27 <zehicle_at_dell> let's coordinate on #refstack and see if other people want to play along
22:14:31 <davidlenwell> agreed
22:15:00 <zehicle_at_dell> I think we are close, it seems like tempest is installed and runnable
22:15:12 <rockyg> #info TCUP working session in #refstack starting 9am PST, 17:00 UTC
22:15:13 <davidlenwell> catherineD has it running ..
22:15:33 <davidlenwell> she'll share as soon as she's allowed to
22:15:36 <davidlenwell> silly lawyers
22:15:54 <zehicle_at_dell> ah, ok
22:15:56 <rockyg> #ref to Shakespeare
22:16:23 <catherineD> And I also run a long test with 840 testcase ran (not all of them passed in my lab env) so want to see how it runs in other clouds
22:16:31 <zehicle_at_dell> catherineD, can you compare your working stuff to what we have in davidlenwell repo?
22:16:55 <catherineD> we are based on what Daivid has in the repo
22:17:02 * zehicle_at_dell looking forward to getting this out in the community
22:17:16 <davidlenwell> catherineD: zehicle_at_dell merged some changes just the other day
22:17:26 <catherineD> ic
22:17:39 <davidlenwell> also .. joshua also took a crack at it .. put it in the scripts directory
22:17:40 <zehicle_at_dell> thanks, I think I'm following the base, not david's
22:17:48 <catherineD> what is the branch? we can test agaun ,,
22:17:53 <davidlenwell> master
22:18:13 <davidlenwell> my repo is what stackforge will pull from tomorrow for the initial commit
22:18:47 <catherineD> have you made any update?
22:18:54 <zehicle_at_dell> ah, we've got changes in 2 locations
22:19:00 <davidlenwell> I got in there last week and made it pass flake8 tests and fixed the license headers
22:19:02 <catherineD> update to the David branch that is ..
22:19:27 <davidlenwell> should have been 3 commits.. mine, josh and zehicle_at_dell
22:19:46 <zehicle_at_dell> it looks like josh and I did matching work in different directories
22:19:56 <davidlenwell> zehicle_at_dell: you did ..
22:20:06 <davidlenwell> within hours of each other
22:20:51 <zehicle_at_dell> great minds
22:20:54 <davidlenwell> so I have some sad news about next week..
22:20:59 <rockyg> is this topic baked?
22:21:03 <davidlenwell> yes
22:21:09 <zehicle_at_dell> +1
22:21:09 <davidlenwell> next is f2f
22:21:10 <rockyg> #topic F2F
22:21:21 <rockyg> sad news?
22:21:23 <davidlenwell> so my sad news is that I won't be able to make it to sf
22:21:33 <rockyg> Dang!
22:21:53 <davidlenwell> my land lord decided to evict me because of my girlfriends dog while I was out of town last week
22:22:00 <davidlenwell> so I have to move
22:22:09 <davidlenwell> which I was unprepaired for
22:22:29 <davidlenwell> but I am available for being skyped in to any meeitng
22:22:44 <rockyg> :-(  Hope you've found a nicer place
22:22:51 <davidlenwell> not yet .. but I will
22:22:55 * zehicle_at_dell sad to hear that
22:22:55 <rockyg> I checked into space here.  We've got wifi, conference rooms
22:23:13 <rockyg> It's in Santa Clara, though.
22:23:14 <catherineD> that  is sad for the reason of eviction ,,,
22:23:16 <zehicle_at_dell> Josh offered to host - we've got a full DefCore meeting at 3
22:23:40 <zehicle_at_dell> I should be in the office at 10
22:23:41 <davidlenwell> piston is always happy to host the refstack crew .. just fyi .. but thats up in the city
22:24:12 <zehicle_at_dell> I'd like to do it at Piston b/c that's where the defcore meeting is
22:24:26 <rockyg> So, let's do an info on location.  Is Josh at Piston?
22:24:27 <davidlenwell> is that on monday?
22:24:32 <zehicle_at_dell> yes
22:24:37 <davidlenwell> josh is cto of piston
22:24:43 <rockyg> Ah.
22:24:50 <zehicle_at_dell> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreElephant.5
22:24:55 <zehicle_at_dell> that's the DefCore meeting
22:24:57 <davidlenwell> is that meeting monday ?
22:25:01 <zehicle_at_dell> yy
22:25:19 <davidlenwell> I might have to try to come up for the day .. I'll let you guys know
22:25:36 <zehicle_at_dell> w/ davidlenwell remote, we're going to have to work via hangout so remote work gets easier
22:26:03 <rockyg> #INFO Piston Cloud 49 Geary St. Suite 530   San Francisco, CA 94108
22:26:25 <catherineD> so DefCore meeting is at 3:00
22:26:48 <zehicle_at_dell> note on TCUP - those files are not the same.  They have differences that we may need to reconcile
22:26:50 <rockyg> Will we still meet at 10am for the F2F at Piston?
22:27:00 <zehicle_at_dell> yes
22:27:05 <rockyg> Good.
22:27:26 <zehicle_at_dell> I'll confirm w/ Josh, but that was the commitment.  he said there was a room reserved for it
22:27:48 <davidlenwell> I can check that from other channels as well
22:27:49 <zehicle_at_dell> I suspect we'll stop at 3 for the DefCore meeting.
22:28:01 <rockyg> Yup.
22:28:16 <rockyg> I'm hoping for an attitude readjustment seminar after.
22:28:31 <zehicle_at_dell> since demo of TCUP + RefStack is topic for that meeting, would be good to lead off w/ that
22:28:59 <zehicle_at_dell> rockyg, I think we were planning drinks - is that sufficient?
22:29:12 <davidlenwell> piston has lots of snacks .. and we like to share
22:29:15 <zehicle_at_dell> "Note: you MUST bring your own beverages to join by remote.  We will verify."
22:29:19 <rockyg> Agenda:  Current State - Gaps to demo, demo,m refstack
22:29:33 <zehicle_at_dell> +1
22:29:46 <zehicle_at_dell> #topic demo prep
22:29:53 <rockyg> Drinks would work.  Nearest microbrewery would, too.  I know about Great Bear, but one might be closer.
22:30:42 <davidlenwell> piston is populated with alchoholics
22:30:46 <davidlenwell> who can't spell
22:30:48 <davidlenwell> ;)
22:31:20 <rockyg> Demo prep:  identification of required SW, HW, Networks, display
22:31:59 <rockyg> zehicle_at_dell will be pre3senting, correct?
22:32:32 <rockyg> Or, do you want catherineD and Zehicle_at_dell to do the talking?
22:32:49 <zehicle_at_dell> yy
22:33:08 <catherineD> let's talk about what we are demoing ...
22:33:14 <zehicle_at_dell> For the board meeting, I'm running it
22:33:20 <zehicle_at_dell> we may also have Josh run it too
22:33:57 <zehicle_at_dell> It does not have to us at the DefCore meeting, but I'll sleep better on Monday if I know I have a working demo
22:34:23 <rockyg> Would be nice to show two test sets and how easy it is to switch, if that's the case.
22:34:59 <davidlenwell> should be doable
22:35:07 <catherineD> So are we demoing running the tests ..
22:35:11 <rockyg> Then let's talk environment. do we have one that everyone(at lest those running) can access and that already works?
22:35:13 <davidlenwell> depending on the state of things from catherineD's team
22:35:28 <davidlenwell> catherineD: how much of the hard coding of settings have you been able to get passed?
22:35:54 <catherineD> we are down to the last 2 modules
22:36:15 <catherineD> the problem is we need to be able to check in code
22:36:27 <catherineD> or all the code is still with us
22:36:58 <davidlenwell> the infra team has told me we should merge tomorrow and be good
22:36:59 <rockyg> last week you said lawyers were OK with checkin if it was stackforge?
22:37:18 <davidlenwell> rockyg: but we still aren't in stackforge and catherineD isn't working tomorro w
22:37:35 <davidlenwell> but then it still has to pass review
22:37:43 <davidlenwell> so we are running out of time
22:37:52 <davidlenwell> unless any of her people can work over the weekend at all
22:38:04 <rockyg> Can it be non-voting to start?
22:38:17 <davidlenwell> rockyg: that sounds messy ..
22:38:25 <davidlenwell> but I suppose it could
22:38:42 <rockyg> Key is.  We get the "vote,
22:38:58 <rockyg> " but we don't break if it is -1
22:39:06 <rockyg> If we can do that.
22:39:08 <catherineD> or we can demo what we showed last week to David
22:39:28 <zehicle_at_dell> we topic jumped
22:39:35 <davidlenwell> indeed
22:39:49 <zehicle_at_dell> I'm ok w/ that - I think we lined out the demo last meeting
22:40:21 <rockyg> Just wanna make sure you know the environment you will run on and can do some test runs
22:40:26 <davidlenwell> catherineD: worst case I think demoing what you showed me is fine
22:40:59 <catherineD> ok that is much better ...
22:41:13 <rockyg> So, worst case, we have catherineD's code and environment and we know it works.
22:41:58 <rockyg> #action  fallback plan is to run catherineD's code in here environment from the last F2F
22:43:05 <davidlenwell> anythings else we need to cover?
22:43:11 <rockyg> If we get catherineD s code in the repo, then everyone can give it some test runs and make the calls
22:43:39 <catherineD> For testing of the  new code, let's plan to have some public cloud for the f2f worjking session ..
22:44:00 <catherineD> +1 about getting code tp repo
22:44:20 <davidlenwell> catherineD: so you said you aren't around tomorrow?
22:44:40 <catherineD> yes I have a planned day off ...
22:44:52 <davidlenwell> catherineD: and I imagine you don't work on weekends?
22:45:06 <davidlenwell> can someone else on your team commit code ?
22:45:09 <catherineD> I will be available Sunday afernoon ..
22:45:11 <zehicle_at_dell_> back
22:45:30 <catherineD> I will check with my team ..
22:45:38 <catherineD> about commit code ..
22:45:45 <rockyg> +1
22:45:47 <davidlenwell> catherineD: it would be ideal if we could commit sooner rahter than later
22:46:07 <catherineD> +1 as soon as it is ready ..
22:47:14 <rockyg> anything else on demo or stackforge?
22:47:54 <davidlenwell> I don't think so
22:47:56 <catherineD> Can someone send email when StackForge is ready?
22:48:02 <davidlenwell> I will
22:48:03 <zehicle_at_dell_> any updates on API for posting?
22:48:20 <rockyg> #topic status and updates
22:49:12 <rockyg> Doesn't sound like it.
22:49:40 <davidlenwell> I think catherineD had roughed out some methods in the api
22:49:49 <davidlenwell> should work as a start
22:50:37 <catherineD> yep
22:51:12 <rockyg> davidlenwell: you mentioned you had sketched out some drawings on architecture.  If you've got that and other rough stuff, I can work tomorrow on getting it into the wiki, which will make it usable for slides.
22:51:28 <davidlenwell> I will eamil you some photos of whiteboards
22:51:57 <davidlenwell> and im around to chat about it if you need to
22:51:58 <rockyg> fantastic
22:52:47 <rockyg> 8 minutes
22:52:56 <rockyg> #topic open discussion
22:53:06 <rockyg> Anything else we're forgetting?
22:53:10 <davidlenwell> I think we've covered most of it unless osmeone else has questions
22:53:21 <catherineD> we will be at the RefStack working session?
22:53:37 <rockyg> Yes.  Shooting for 10am.
22:53:48 <davidlenwell> I am working out how to get up for the day
22:54:16 <rockyg> rent an rv and live out of it until you find your apartment?-)
22:54:26 <davidlenwell> rockyg: tempting
22:54:44 <davidlenwell> josh just told me to move to sf and forget my home town
22:55:14 <rockyg> Almost works for me.  SF is too city.
22:55:23 <davidlenwell> yeah .. I could handle pacifica
22:55:30 <davidlenwell> for santa cruze
22:55:33 <davidlenwell> cruz
22:55:38 <rockyg> +100
22:56:19 <rockyg> Well, if there's nothing else...
22:56:30 <davidlenwell> that will do it
22:56:33 <rockyg> #endmeeting