15:03:49 <jruzicka> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-10-12
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15:04:03 <jruzicka> #topic roll call
15:04:06 <jschlueter> o/
15:04:08 <mengxd> o/
15:04:08 <eggmaster> o/
15:04:10 <flepied> o/
15:04:16 <rbowen> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:04:31 <jruzicka> someone silence openstack bot please
15:04:35 <jruzicka> dmsimard, ^
15:04:39 <jruzicka> also, this should be automated
15:04:50 <dmsimard> \o
15:05:04 <apevec> o/
15:05:05 <jruzicka> #chair jschlueter mengxd eggmaster flepied rbowen dmsimard apevec
15:05:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: apevec dmsimard eggmaster flepied jruzicka jschlueter mengxd rbowen
15:05:06 <openstack> Current chairs: apevec dmsimard eggmaster flepied jruzicka jschlueter mengxd rbowen
15:05:15 <dmsimard> jruzicka: there are upstream patches on review.r.o to stop meetbot from doing that
15:05:16 <jjoyce> o/
15:05:17 <misc> o/
15:05:22 <jruzicka> yays
15:05:23 <dmsimard> jruzicka: they haven't merged for months
15:05:23 <jrist> o/
15:05:58 <jruzicka> #info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting
15:05:59 <leifmadsen> o/
15:06:14 <jruzicka> #chair jjoyce misc jrist leifmadsen
15:06:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: apevec dmsimard eggmaster flepied jjoyce jrist jruzicka jschlueter leifmadsen mengxd misc rbowen
15:06:15 <openstack> Current chairs: apevec dmsimard eggmaster flepied jjoyce jrist jruzicka jschlueter leifmadsen mengxd misc rbowen
15:06:26 <apevec> dmsimard,  you mean review.o.o ?
15:06:47 <myoung> o/
15:06:48 <jruzicka> Please also fill in the agenda with items you'd like you raise if you haven't already
15:07:13 <leifmadsen> I see no agenda items, meeting done! :)
15:07:17 <leifmadsen> errr wait
15:07:26 <leifmadsen> I thought 12 Oct was last week (:facepalm:)
15:07:33 <dmsimard> apevec: I mean what for what ?
15:07:40 <dmsimard> apevec: oh, yeah
15:07:40 <apevec> dmsimard, for meetbot
15:07:50 <apevec> leifmadsen, you live in the future :)
15:08:01 * Humbedooh lives a place where it's always Monday
15:08:04 <jrist> leifmadsen: surprise! it's the 12th today
15:08:26 <leifmadsen> so what you're saying is I'm not leaving for OSS this weekend? :)
15:08:27 <jruzicka> #chair myoung leifmadsen
15:08:27 <openstack> Current chairs: apevec dmsimard eggmaster flepied jjoyce jrist jruzicka jschlueter leifmadsen mengxd misc myoung rbowen
15:08:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: apevec dmsimard eggmaster flepied jjoyce jrist jruzicka jschlueter leifmadsen mengxd misc myoung rbowen
15:08:43 <jrist> leifmadsen: alas :(
15:08:51 <jruzicka> #topic Preparation for RCIP-DEV move October 17th
15:08:56 <jruzicka> apevec, ^
15:09:05 <apevec> no, that was flepied ^
15:09:23 <apevec> but if he's busy, basically replay of centos outage:
15:09:26 <flepied> yes that was me
15:09:28 <apevec> moving to other DC
15:09:33 <apevec> so full downtime
15:09:40 <apevec> flepied, what's the estimate? 24h ?
15:09:44 <dmsimard> 8h
15:09:49 <flepied> yes 8h
15:09:52 <apevec> ah faster moving carts!
15:09:53 <dmsimard> apevec: 9 to 5 paris time
15:09:53 <jschlueter> what all services will be out?
15:09:58 <rdogerrit> Pradeep Kilambi created openstack/ceilometer-distgit: Explicitly pass port to ceilometer-api service  http://review.rdoproject.org/r/3256
15:10:01 <apevec> review.rdo
15:10:07 <apevec> and rcip cloud
15:10:11 <Duck> coin o/
15:10:22 <jschlueter> apevec: ack
15:10:35 <dmsimard> review.rdoproject.org, sensu monitoring, third party logs server ( adarazs, weshay ) and browbeat node ( wfoster, rook )
15:10:53 <dmsimard> Will be down for the duration of the maintenance window on oct 17th from 9 to 5 paris time
15:11:10 <rook> jkilpatr weshay ^
15:11:33 <jschlueter> jjoyce, mburned: ^^
15:11:59 <dmsimard> oh, the swift as well, adarazs, weshay <-
15:12:03 <jjoyce> jschlueter: thx
15:12:08 <mburned> ack
15:12:11 <apevec> flepied, dmsimard - can someone send reminder to rdo-list ?
15:12:20 <dmsimard> I can take that
15:12:33 <jruzicka> #action dmsimard to send reminder to rdo-list
15:12:34 <dmsimard> #action dmsimard to post a reminder of oct 17th maintenance of rcip-dev to rdo-list
15:12:38 <dmsimard> #undo
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15:12:41 <jruzicka> #undo
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15:12:42 <trown> o/
15:12:44 <dmsimard> T_T_
15:12:46 <dmsimard> #action dmsimard to post a reminder of oct 17th maintenance of rcip-dev to rdo-list
15:12:53 <jruzicka> :)
15:12:56 <wfoster> dmsimard: ok thanks for the notice
15:13:09 <wfoster> rook: sai ^^
15:13:45 <rook> this only impacts upstream ci, nothing else, this is why i pinged weshay and jkilpatr
15:13:51 <rook> it should only impact**
15:14:10 <wfoster> yeah we monitor it currently so we'll set alerts to be silenced during that time
15:15:25 <jkilpatr> so this is the browbeat code ci machine?
15:15:42 <dmsimard> I think that's the elasticsearch box.
15:15:48 <jkilpatr> ah cool thanks
15:16:06 <dmsimard> we're probably good on that topic, we can move on
15:16:14 <jruzicka> #topic Newton GA test day Oct 13/14 - https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/newton/final/
15:16:30 <jruzicka> any urgent updates to push today?
15:16:36 <rbowen> Yay. Come help us test RDO Newton!
15:16:44 <apevec> yes!
15:17:02 <apevec> fwiw I'm not aware of any urgent fixes required
15:17:09 <jruzicka> #info Thank you to all the people who have improved the test day documentation!
15:17:43 <dmsimard> apevec: the one thing I'm thinking of is that ceilometer middleware thing
15:17:45 <apevec> but there will probably be some issues with tripleo since they are still working on their rc3
15:17:49 <rbowen> We have a couple of new howto docs, and improvements to other docs, that should make it easier for people to get started testing. That's a huge help.
15:17:51 <dmsimard> although I would really love for that to never land in stable
15:17:53 <rbowen> Thanks all.
15:18:17 <trown> apevec: I think most(all?) of the outstanding tripleo issues are with upgrades
15:18:32 <trown> so probably not a blocker for test day
15:18:41 <apevec> trown, ok, but we'll be testing w/ GA bits
15:18:45 <apevec> which means rc2 tripleo
15:18:50 <apevec> is that still ok?
15:19:16 <trown> ya, the cbs newton jobs passed (except pinche tempest), so seems good
15:19:19 <apevec> that's what I'm asking, is there anything landed in stable/newton that we need CBS build
15:19:23 <apevec> ok
15:19:26 <trown> I manually promoted the image
15:19:32 <apevec> coolio
15:19:51 <trown> we dont have CDN for it yet... not sure if we can get that for tomorrow or not
15:20:04 <trown> but it is available on images.rdoproject.org
15:20:26 <apevec> ah, where is the default pointing to?
15:20:41 <apevec> should we add location override in testday howto?
15:20:55 <trown> default points to DLRN content... I just put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385517/ to add "stable" configs
15:21:11 <trown> and those point to images.rdoproject.org until we have CDN
15:21:31 <apevec> ok, can that be merged by tomorrow?
15:21:34 <trown> ya
15:21:50 <apevec> thanks
15:22:11 <apevec> is there centos bug# for CDN location?
15:22:21 <jruzicka> #topic FYI: ci.centos.org will soon have an OpenStack cloud based on RDO Newton!
15:22:23 <trown> I don't think so
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15:22:32 <trown> lol
15:22:46 <trown> we can move on, and handle this outside of meeting :)
15:22:58 <dmsimard> Oh, hey, just some cool news
15:23:03 <jruzicka> #topic FYI: ci.centos.org will soon have an OpenStack cloud based on RDO Newton!
15:23:03 <trown> hint taken jruzicka :p
15:23:13 <jruzicka> :-p
15:23:30 <dmsimard> The ci.centos.org environment will soon have an OpenStack environment (no heat or OVB, though, at least for the time being)
15:23:57 <dmsimard> It will be based on Newton so it's a pretty good dogfood thing
15:24:18 <trown> dmsimard: what is the purpose?
15:24:48 <apevec> to eat dog food? To feel the pain :)
15:24:51 <dmsimard> trown: abstracted through duffy to provide virtual machines (specific tenants will have access to API, like RDO and I /think/ OpenShift)
15:24:56 <trown> jruzicka: I think we are in that topic now btw :)
15:25:15 <dmsimard> trown: basically not all tenants need bare metal nodes so it will be a good option for htem
15:25:24 <dmsimard> also users wanting to test around openstack deployments.
15:25:42 <dmsimard> i.e, this is a cloud for ci.centos.org, not for RDO :)
15:25:57 <jruzicka> trown, I undid it as I thought previous wasn't over and then redid it again... I think it's all under control now :-p
15:26:08 <trown> oh indeed
15:26:39 <jruzicka> dogfooding++
15:27:01 <dmsimard> That's it for me -- this is a pure puppet deployment btw, recipes are at https://github.com/CentOS/centos-cloud
15:27:10 <dmsimard> open source and all that, feel free to contribute and stuff.
15:27:34 <apevec> dmsimard, puppet with some ansible ?
15:27:52 <dmsimard> apevec: ansible is just for ops tasks since there is no puppetmaster.
15:28:18 <dmsimard> apevec: so, like, updating the puppet modules across all nodes and running puppet
15:29:05 <jruzicka> #topic upcoming rdopkg refactor might break things - let jruzicka know what rdopkg parts do you use
15:29:37 <jruzicka> some new magicks broke `rdopkg patch` and 3 different people reported so yelling "rdopkg is a development tool" doesn't work anymore
15:29:54 <dmsimard> *gasp*, you have users to care about ? :)
15:30:11 <jruzicka> thus I'm moving toward stability and I have a last shot at proper refactor
15:31:00 <jruzicka> Things might break/change so please let me know what I should explicitly not break :)
15:31:22 <jruzicka> dmsimard, enough to open a new issue ;)
15:31:31 <jschlueter> jruzicka: ack
15:32:00 <apevec> jruzicka, you might want to provide "experimental rdopkg" copr
15:32:05 <apevec> for testing new changes
15:32:12 <jruzicka> After this refactor, I'll move towards stable interface as I want rdopkg to be used as a framework in the future
15:32:30 <jruzicka> apevec, that's what `python setup.py develop --user` is for ;)
15:32:38 <apevec> well, not
15:32:48 <jruzicka> :-p
15:33:02 <apevec> if you want wider feedback, nice "trunk" repo might help
15:33:21 <jschlueter> jruzicka: you have anything documenting what you are changing and what brakage might happen?
15:33:24 <jruzicka> Yeah, or from the other side - stable repo with last unborken version ;)
15:33:32 * jschlueter willing to read before talking
15:33:53 <jruzicka> jschlueter, it's not documented, but I need to shuffle modules around
15:33:57 <rdogerrit> Jon Schlueter created openstack/mistral-distgit: Replace http://tarballs.o.o with https://tarballs.o.o  http://review.rdoproject.org/r/3257
15:33:58 <rdogerrit> Jon Schlueter created openstack/mistral-distgit: Add Jinja2 to the required packages  http://review.rdoproject.org/r/3258
15:34:26 <jruzicka> but let's discuss that after meeting with those affected
15:34:31 <jruzicka> finally
15:35:17 <jruzicka> #topic Help out at the RDO booth (demos, q&a, or just meet our users) - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-barcelona-summit-booth
15:35:36 <rbowen> Yep, that's really the whole message there.
15:35:54 <rbowen> Consider what talks you want to attend, and then come hang out in the booth to meet our users and answer their questions.
15:35:55 <rbowen> Thanks.
15:37:38 <jruzicka> #topic open floor
15:37:41 <rbowen> I think we just fell off the end of the agenda. :-)
15:37:55 <apevec> ...to the floor
15:38:07 <jruzicka> everybody to the dance floor!
15:38:08 <jruzicka> err
15:38:21 <dmsimard> ok, open floor FYI: we're going to be properly testing KVM + Nested virtualization in RDO CI with WeIRDO soon.
15:38:28 <dmsimard> Because upstream are only testing qemu
15:38:51 <dmsimard> can probably merge that today if I'm lucky
15:39:22 <jruzicka> just to clarify... rdopkg internals will change. CLI usage and general functionality will remain the same.
15:39:57 <rdogerrit> Jon Schlueter created openstack/heat-distgit: Drop argparse as a requirement  http://review.rdoproject.org/r/3259
15:40:18 <jruzicka> #endmeeting