21:01:46 <markmcclain> #startmeeting quantum
21:01:47 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Apr  8 21:01:46 2013 UTC.  The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
21:01:48 <mestery> danwent: Although, I bet I'm not THAT much older than you. :P
21:01:49 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
21:01:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'quantum'
21:02:06 <danwent> mestery: well, considering i was joking on all fronts, i'm not sure the facts matter
21:02:23 <markmcclain> #info Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings
21:02:36 <markmcclain> #topic Announcements
21:03:04 <nati_ueno> hi
21:03:24 <emagana> hola todos!
21:03:30 <markmcclain> #info 2013.1 (Grizzly) was released last Thursday
21:03:44 <markmcclain> I've been hearing a good buzz from folks in the community about the new features and fixes we accomplished.
21:04:14 <markmcclain> Congrats to everyone and huge thank you to #danwent for leading the team.
21:04:29 <danwent> yeah, people are very excited about the grizzly deliverables
21:04:36 <markmcclain> Everyone owes him a beer at the summit. :)
21:04:51 <danwent> markmcclain: we'll talk about beer bash later :)
21:04:59 <gongysh> markmcclain: do u have some evidence? So that we can enjoy the phrases.
21:05:03 <mestery> Hey may not be able to participate in sessions if we all buy him beer. :)
21:05:22 <danwent> mestery: sounds like a sound strategy
21:05:56 <alexpilotti> mestery: first case of beer based DoS :-)
21:05:58 <gongysh> drunk danwent will be more funny. :)
21:06:07 <mestery> alexpilotti: heh :)
21:06:11 <danwent> but the hungover one will not be
21:06:11 <markmcclain> gongysh: Most of the praise has been word of mouth.  If I'll to written items when I run across them.
21:06:29 <danwent> gongysh: i'll try to find a couple things i've seen
21:06:36 <markmcclain> *I'll link to written item when I run across them.
21:06:38 <gongysh> great!
21:07:24 <gongysh> I am a in-house man so not easy to hear such kind of praise.
21:08:24 <markmcclain> Again great job by the entire team on a well done release.
21:08:38 <markmcclain> #topic Bugs
21:09:41 <markmcclain> Now that Grizzly has been released, the stable team led by garyk has begun to look at the backport candidates.
21:10:02 <markmcclain> A few have already been proposed, so take a look if you have some time.
21:10:29 <markmcclain> Any fixes to Grizzly, must land in stable before they can be proposed to the stable branch.
21:10:37 <danwent> master?
21:10:50 <garyk> markmcclain: the list is at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/quantum+branch:stable/grizzly,n,z
21:11:05 <markmcclain> oops… must land in master first they can be proposed to stable
21:11:10 <markmcclain> garyk: thanks for the link
21:11:48 <markmcclain> Any questions on bugs or bugs that need the team's immediate attention?
21:12:00 <danwent> let's make sure people take a break from summit prep to get these fixes merged in.  otherwise it will be a while
21:12:01 <garyk> markmcclain: the list of bugs that plan to backport can be found at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.tag=grizzly-backport-potential
21:13:13 <markmcclain> garyk: thanks
21:14:07 <markmcclain> danwent: agreed.. it's easier to look at stable reviews now while we're in the quiet period before the summit
21:15:04 <markmcclain> #topic Documentation
21:15:20 <danwent> ok,
21:15:30 <danwent> on the admin doc side:
21:15:30 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structu
21:15:31 <danwent> subscriber=&field.tag=quantum&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on
21:15:42 <danwent> whoops, long link
21:15:59 <danwent> most important outstanding items are meta proxy admin doc
21:16:05 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1099573
21:16:07 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1099573 in openstack-manuals "Quantum Metadata Proxy should be documented" [High,Confirmed]
21:16:10 <danwent> db migration doc
21:16:12 * markmcclain hides
21:16:17 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1099574
21:16:18 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1099574 in openstack-manuals "Quantum DB migration" [High,Confirmed]
21:16:25 <danwent> and lbaas docs
21:16:33 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1156828
21:16:34 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1156828 in openstack-manuals "q-admin: basic lbaas workflow" [High,In progress]
21:16:40 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1157034
21:16:42 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1157034 in openstack-manuals "quantum lbaas install - Ubuntu" [High,Confirmed]
21:16:57 <danwent> markmcclain: as part of metadata, there are a few areas of the overview that i think we'll need to update as well
21:17:09 <danwent> in addition to
21:17:19 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1152838
21:17:21 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1152838 in openstack-manuals "update quantum physical layout diagram" [High,Triaged]
21:17:29 <danwent> markmcclain: would it help if i take on the metadata stuff?
21:17:49 <danwent> i could at least get the basics in place
21:17:58 <markmcclain> I'm in location this week with significantly better connectivity, so I'll be able to get it pushed
21:18:12 <danwent> ok, great.
21:18:36 <danwent> i'm pushing one change right now, and will push the lbaas workflow stuff later tonight
21:18:38 <emagana> danwent: could you provide feedback to: bug1154881
21:18:59 <danwent> i also am looking to do a full pass on the overview portions of the doc to see if there is anything that is now out of date.
21:19:25 <danwent> emagana: sure, looks pretty straightfoward
21:19:34 <danwent> looks like we already have a +2 from Tom
21:19:54 <emagana> danwent: yes, we have
21:20:01 <markmcclain> danwent: That's a good idea to revisit the overviews.
21:20:08 <danwent> salv-orlando: any comments on API docs
21:20:26 <danwent> markmcclain: yeah, that's were i noticed that we mention the other agents, but not the metadata agent
21:21:22 <nati_ueno> Sorry I couldn't have time to write extraroute doc. I'll do it in this week.
21:21:31 <salv-orlando> Hi
21:21:34 <salv-orlando> About API docs
21:21:55 <salv-orlando> We have merged a few patches and did some progress on review
21:22:02 <salv-orlando> but we still have a lot of outstanding patches
21:22:22 <salv-orlando> I am confident to be able to merge the smaller one
21:22:25 <salv-orlando> (ones)
21:22:39 <salv-orlando> but I am not so confident on the LB patch for this week
21:23:29 <danwent> can we get some of the many people interested in lbaas to do a review on the docs?
21:23:47 <danwent> how about no discussion of lbaas for the next design summit until the docs for grizzly are done + reviewed :P
21:24:06 <nati_ueno> ha ha
21:24:08 <sthakkar> i can help on docs review
21:24:20 <danwent> sthakkar: thanks, that woudl be great
21:24:21 <armax> danwent: I'd be happy to give a hand on reviewing the docs
21:24:41 <danwent> armax: sweet, yeah, good idea
21:25:07 <markmcclain> I'll take a look too
21:25:15 <salv-orlando> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/netconn-api,n,z
21:25:29 <danwent> ok, anything else that needs to be on our docs radar?
21:26:22 <gongysh> my two API patches are about 2 weeks old.
21:26:57 <danwent> gongysh: link?
21:27:18 <gongysh> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25480/
21:27:27 <gongysh> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25379/
21:27:51 <gongysh> I have got one +2 from amotoki.
21:28:18 <danwent> ok… how about if those aren't merged by sunday, we don't buy any beer at the beer bash :P
21:28:39 <gongysh> except one for me!
21:28:57 <salv-orlando> I think amotoki is the only one who deserves beer :)
21:28:57 <danwent> gongysh: seems fair
21:29:00 <danwent> true
21:29:01 <salv-orlando> he reviewed all the patches
21:29:13 <markmcclain> +!
21:29:15 <markmcclain> +1
21:29:19 <danwent> gongysh: i'll review them.
21:29:21 <gongysh> I will review others today.
21:29:32 <SumitNaiksatam> +1
21:29:41 <danwent> ok, sounds like that is it for docs
21:29:43 <SumitNaiksatam> +1 for amotoki :-)
21:29:46 <markmcclain> danwent: Thanks for the update.
21:29:58 <markmcclain> #topic Havana Summit
21:30:09 <markmcclain> The summit starts one week from today.
21:33:11 <HenryG> Is there an agenda for quantum design sessions?
21:33:26 <garyk> did i hear beer?
21:33:27 <markmcclain> HenryG: There will be shortly.
21:34:02 <salv-orlando> garyk: no you're dreaming. And don't forget you're a pumpkin now :)
21:34:11 <garyk> :)
21:34:12 <markmcclain> The schedule will be out in about 2 hours.
21:34:50 <gongysh> lol
21:35:06 <markmcclain> There were lots of good proposals. Unfortunately, I could not accommodate all of them.
21:36:10 <markmcclain> For the ones that could not fit on the schedule, I recommend that the proposers discuss on the mailing list or sign-up for unconference time.
21:36:48 <danwent> markmcclain: which is our non session day?
21:36:50 <danwent> thursday?
21:37:21 <markmcclain> danwent: Yes. Thursday is free except for there is one session in the Nova track I would like to highlight
21:37:51 <danwent> markmcclain: ok, great.  so we should be able to have people grab unconference time on thus without worrying that there are conflicts with existing quantum sessions
21:38:38 <markmcclain> There will one session in the Quantum track and Nova track each discussion different aspects of integration
21:38:43 <mestery> markmcclain: Thanks for doing the legwork to sort through and plan the sessions.
21:38:48 <markmcclain> The Quantum track session will be Monday.
21:39:03 <markmcclain> The Nova track session will be Thursday (http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/abc345b53bae275d5072f654e565cbb0#.UWM4oaXv4UU)
21:39:47 <HenryG> What is the procedure for "grabbing unconference time"?
21:40:33 <salv-orlando> HenryG: you write your name on a whiteboard at the summit I think
21:40:38 <markmcclain> HenryG: There will be a sign-up board near the unconference space.
21:40:45 <mestery> Yes, it's fairly informal.
21:40:54 <HenryG> thx
21:40:54 <gongysh> HenryG: Open the door of meeting room, push your session in and then close the door
21:41:39 <markmcclain> I'm waiting on confirmation of some scheduling changes, so I'll publish it shortly (<2hrs)
21:41:53 <markmcclain> I will send a link to the list to let everyone know it is available.
21:42:45 <markmcclain> mestery: Thanks.  Reading through the proposals it is exciting to see the great ideas in our community.
21:43:22 <markmcclain> The schedule will also appear here:
21:43:24 <markmcclain> #link http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org
21:43:47 <emagana> markmcclain: good job!
21:44:08 <markmcclain> Any questions on the design summit?
21:44:13 <danwent> one other thing to mention
21:44:36 <danwent> as a celebration of the great work that went into the grizzly release, we'll be hosting a quantum developer beer bash sunday night 8pm
21:44:48 <danwent> still locking down the location.  please rsvp to me if you plan to attend.
21:44:56 <salv-orlando> you get one beer for each commit
21:45:11 <mlavalle> danwent: by email?
21:45:14 <danwent> the goal here is that most people there should be those who contributed to the grizzly release, but we can be a bit flexible as needed :)
21:45:17 <danwent> yes please
21:45:27 <salv-orlando> or, if you like, a car bomb for each 5 commits
21:45:44 <danwent> ah, yes, more car bombs this year :)
21:46:08 <mestery> Might as well start Monday primed for the weeks parties!
21:46:10 <danwent> should be walking distance from hotels
21:46:22 <danwent> yes, nothing like being incredibly hungover for the first session on monday
21:46:24 <markmcclain> danwent: stumbling distance?
21:46:29 <emagana> danwent: kool!!
21:46:39 <danwent> markmcclain: depends how much you're stumbling :P
21:47:30 <salv-orlando> danwent: perhaps it should be crawling distance
21:47:45 <danwent> salv-orlando: with all the work you did, we'll carry you back
21:48:32 <gongysh> carry -> drag, pull, push
21:48:56 <markmcclain> If that happens I'll have to move salv-orlando sessions to the afternoon.
21:49:02 <danwent> :)
21:49:09 <danwent> probably a safe bet anyway
21:49:11 <salv-orlando> I give my best when I'm drunk
21:49:26 <markmcclain> hehe
21:49:27 <SumitNaiksatam> yeah start the sessions on sunday evening itself
21:49:49 <markmcclain> RSVP to danwent if you plan to attend at 8pm Sunday night and look to forward to celebrating a good release.
21:49:58 <markmcclain> #topic Open Discussion
21:50:40 <emagana> markcclain: are we moving this meeting back to 1:00pm PST after Havana?
21:51:02 <gongysh> quantum client changed the pip-requires cliff>=1.3.1 -> cliff>=1.3.2
21:51:03 <salv-orlando> it actually never moved
21:51:08 <danwent> emagana: same time UTC
21:51:09 <salv-orlando> it's alway 21.00 UTC
21:51:12 <markmcclain> emagana: No. We've traditionally kept this meeting at 2100UTC.
21:52:05 <armax> I guess I wasn't the only one being fooled by the daylight saving then ;)
21:52:38 <armax> btw, I just wanted to introduce myself; my name is Armando Migliaccio but on irc I go by 'armax', which is a lot leaner :)
21:52:50 <armax> I joined the openstack team @vmware earlier this month, so I'll start to get more involved on Quantum from here on
21:52:55 <markmcclain> armax: Welcome
21:53:01 <Shree> are we fixing this gate job this week - https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/Quantum/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-quantum-full/
21:53:01 <nati_ueno> armax: Welcome :)
21:53:11 <Shree> or its not mandate?
21:53:24 <nati_ueno> it start failing!?
21:53:31 <markmcclain> Shree: Can you elaborate?
21:53:45 <armax> nati_ueno, markmcclain: thanks
21:54:20 <Shree> sec group and create server is failing again
21:54:47 <nati_ueno> Shree: could you share failing example?
21:55:20 <nati_ueno> Is that on http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ ?
21:55:35 <markmcclain> Shree: I'm seeing tests that have passed the Quantum gate
21:55:57 <nati_ueno> markmcclain: yes. it looks also working on the recent reviews
21:56:16 <markmcclain> we can discuss this after the meeting in -dev
21:56:25 <nati_ueno> kk
21:56:31 <markmcclain> anything else before most of us meet up at the Summit?
21:56:59 <danwent> no, i think we're good
21:57:05 <Shree> markmcclain: yeah the full gate is failing for nova and networks - server and sec group tests
21:57:36 <markmcclain> Shree:  ok we'll move over to -dev and look further
21:57:51 <markmcclain> Great job on Grizzly!
21:57:55 <markmcclain> #endmeeting