09:00:33 <gmann> #startmeeting qa
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09:00:36 <gmann> PING LIST- gmann, andreaf, masayukig, chandankumar, felipemonteiro, frickler, mbindlish
09:00:37 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'qa'
09:00:41 <masayukig> o/
09:00:43 <gmann> who all here today
09:00:46 <gmann> masayukig: hi
09:00:48 <mbindlish> hi
09:00:59 <gmann> mbindlish: hi
09:01:12 * tosky more or less around
09:01:33 <gmann> let's start
09:01:38 <gmann> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_Office_hours
09:01:45 <gmann> today agenda ^^
09:03:13 <gmann> #topic Announcement and Action Item (Optional)
09:03:26 <gmann> Rocky is released for all QA projects
09:03:35 <gmann> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133636.html
09:03:42 <gmann> devstack and grenade also done.
09:03:56 <gmann> last patch for grenade setting to test Rocky upgrade is still not merged
09:04:02 <gmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591594/
09:04:34 <gmann> this is still failing. previous failure was due to osc which is fixed and released now
09:05:03 <gmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599924/
09:05:15 <gmann> i will check the current failure after meeting
09:05:28 <gmann> #topic Rocky Priority Items progress
09:05:52 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-priorities-tracking
09:06:15 <gmann> we finished most of the item but still few remaining
09:06:37 <gmann> which i will put as backlog of Rocky in  PTG and carry forward in stein.
09:06:42 <masayukig> great
09:07:05 <gmann> we will see how much % we completed during PTG
09:07:47 <gmann> anything else on Rocky priority ?
09:08:18 <masayukig> maybe not
09:08:27 <gmann> ok let's move next
09:08:38 <gmann> #topic OpenStack Events Updates and Planning
09:08:52 <gmann> Next: Denver PTG
09:09:11 <gmann> Denver PTG is next week, hope all set for travel
09:09:54 <gmann> I have prepared the scheduled for QA
09:10:07 <gmann> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134279.html
09:10:10 <masayukig> yeah, thanks
09:10:17 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-stein-ptg
09:10:28 <gmann> #link Ethercal: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Stein-PTG-QA-Schedule
09:11:06 <gmann> Basically Monday will be help hours and Tuesday - Thursday will be QA specific discussion
09:11:33 <gmann> i have added the topic schedule on ethercal, please check and let me know if anything conflicting with other sessions. we can adjust that
09:11:46 <gmann> also feel free to propose any other topic which you want to discuss
09:12:19 <masayukig> thanks, sure
09:12:34 <masayukig> ll check it
09:13:01 <gmann> with current schedule we will finish our discussion on Wed first half.
09:13:18 <gmann> i have planned Bug Triage and then Code sprint after that
09:13:29 <masayukig> ++
09:14:11 <gmann> we will plan QA dinner also in PTG which i will send mail separately.
09:14:39 <masayukig> +1000 :)
09:14:48 <gmann> and we have Team Photo slot also on  Wednesday 10.40-10.50 which i will coordinate during PTG
09:14:49 <mbindlish> :)
09:14:51 <gmann> masayukig: :)
09:15:20 <gmann> that's all from my side on PTG planning. anything else on this
09:15:44 <masayukig> gmann: so,
09:16:21 <masayukig> I think operators will come to the PTG this time?
09:16:35 <gmann> yes
09:16:43 <masayukig> gmann: so, maybe, we can get some feedback from them?
09:17:04 <gmann> masayukig: nice idea. i can plan for that.
09:17:16 <masayukig> gmann: nice :)
09:17:19 <gmann> any specific day for operator ?
09:17:31 <masayukig> no idea...
09:17:54 <tosky> there is a room booked for "ops meetup" on Monday and Tuesday
09:18:16 <gmann> yeah. Aspen
09:18:19 <gmann> #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_schedule
09:18:22 <gmann> tosky: thanks
09:18:38 <gmann> Monday is good time to check with them.
09:18:47 <masayukig> yeah
09:19:16 <gmann> added in Ethercal for Monday
09:20:22 <masayukig> thanks!
09:21:07 <gmann> let's move next
09:21:09 <gmann> Next: Berlin Summit
09:21:26 <gmann> I created the etherpad for QA Forum Sessions Brainstorming
09:21:42 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/berlin-stein-forum-qa-brainstorming
09:21:54 <gmann> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134353.html
09:21:59 <gmann> sent email ^^ also
09:22:14 <gmann> let's start gathering the Forum ideas we can propose for QA related stuff
09:22:31 <gmann> I think deadline is Sept 12th to collect the ideas
09:22:45 <masayukig> ooh, during the PTG
09:22:55 <gmann> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Berlin2018
09:23:39 <gmann> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134336.html
09:23:47 <gmann> its Sept 11th actually
09:24:02 <gmann> masayukig: yeah both things going in overlap way :)
09:26:00 <masayukig> gmann: ok, I'll check and we can talk about it at the PTG :)
09:26:15 <gmann> yeah, PTG is also good time to talk
09:26:26 <gmann> let me add it somewhere as reminder
09:27:25 <gmann> added in ethercal.
09:27:59 <masayukig> cool
09:28:03 <gmann> one things we should fill before Tuesday is Retrospective etherpad
09:28:17 <gmann> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134274.html
09:28:32 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-retrospective
09:28:43 <gmann> feedback is much needed to improve the things.
09:29:38 <gmann> this was my first cycle as PTL, so i love to hear the improving area so that we can take care more in Stein.
09:30:00 <masayukig> yeah, thanks. I'll do that.
09:30:04 <masayukig> gmann: :)
09:30:32 <mbindlish> +1
09:30:38 <gmann> thanks
09:30:42 <gmann> #topic Sub Teams highlights (Sub Teams means individual projects under QA program)
09:31:13 <gmann> Tempest
09:31:25 <gmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open
09:31:42 <gmann> this is ^^ ongoing review in Tempest.
09:31:57 <gmann> i do not have much extra to discuss now for Tempest
09:32:13 <gmann> anyone have anything ?
09:32:42 <masayukig> I don't either
09:33:32 <gmann> k let's move
09:33:34 <gmann> Patrole
09:33:47 <openstackgerrit> zhufl proposed openstack/tempest master: Remove unnecessary response check in InstanceUsageAuditLogTestJSON  https://review.openstack.org/600394
09:33:59 <gmann> there is one ongoing item i want to share here for patrole
09:34:22 <gmann> #li k https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599488/1
09:34:25 <gmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599488/1
09:34:37 <gmann> patrole is migrating to stroyboard.
09:35:00 <gmann> before updating the link in README etc we need to migrate the bugs from LP to Storyboard.
09:35:38 <gmann> once that is done, we will close the LP for patrole and completely moving to storyboard.
09:36:03 <gmann> and in PTG we can discuss about it and talk about other QA project to migrate slowly.
09:36:29 <masayukig> k
09:37:32 <gmann> anything else on subteam updates. ? i have nothing else
09:38:44 <gmann> #topic Bug Triage
09:38:58 <gmann> i will skip this and do more work on this in PTG
09:39:12 <gmann> #topic Open Discussion
09:39:29 <gmann> tosky: i saw your msg but sorry could not get time to look into your patch
09:39:40 <tosky> gmann: oh, which message? Grenade?
09:39:45 <gmann> yeah
09:40:06 <tosky> I moved forward more or less, and I refined my question a bit
09:40:50 <tosky> so: if the scope of grenade to verify only that configuration from $version-1 still works with $version, but not that it will work for $version+1 ?
09:40:57 <tosky> ?
09:41:21 <tosky> because otherwise it's impossible to *not* consider deprecated and removed options (which can happen in two cycles)
09:41:53 <tosky> so the thing called fast forward upgrade or something like that is out of scope?
09:42:14 <gmann> it does with master and master-1 also. and yeah version-1 to version if configured that way
09:42:38 <gmann> yeah that is out of scope as far as i know.
09:42:38 <tosky> right, master and master-1 (aka last stable) is a special case of version and verson-1
09:42:46 <gmann> yeah.
09:42:47 <tosky> ok, because that simplifies some assumptions
09:43:29 <tosky> basically we switched to WSGI by default in Sahara, so what I did so far is force non-wsgi still for queens->rocky; rocky will deploy with wsgi directly
09:43:46 <gmann> k
09:44:23 <gmann> and that worked right
09:44:27 <tosky> yes
09:44:37 <gmann> cool
09:44:43 <tosky> I found out a weird thing though; it seems that, if you use devstack plugin, you need to specify *again* the version they want to use as base and target
09:45:07 <tosky> and that can go quickly unaligned with the base and target used by grenade in the same branch
09:45:43 <tosky> see http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/sahara/tree/devstack/upgrade/settings#n10
09:45:46 <gmann> but that is set by d-g based on grenade branch -
09:46:14 <tosky> that's what I thought, but if I don't see that on the plugin, apparently I get sahara and heat (in this case) from master also in old/
09:46:41 <tosky> unless I misread the logs
09:47:00 <tosky> same here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/manila/tree/devstack/upgrade/settings
09:47:08 <gmann> #link https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh#L280
09:47:25 <gmann> humm
09:47:38 <tosky> but that's not what grenade writes in the devstack configuration file
09:48:04 <tosky> if you use devstack_localrc base <something>, that content will be written directly to the devstack configuration file
09:48:27 <tosky> maybe it's as easy as making sure that devstack_localrc checks for enable_plugin directives and fills them properly
09:48:35 <tosky> or maybe I don't know
09:48:59 <gmann> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate.sh#n673
09:49:06 <tosky> I did my testing with this patch (now abandoned) removing the version from enable_plugin and I noticed that sahara and heat were from master
09:49:21 <gmann> ohk
09:49:21 <tosky> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599542/
09:49:46 <tosky> see http://logs.openstack.org/42/599542/1/check/sahara-grenade/a434859/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2018-09-04_09_53_26_125
09:49:54 <tosky> so maybe I misread that, but... not sure
09:50:33 <tosky> or maybe it's enable_plugin in devstack that should be fixed
09:52:16 <gmann> seems so.
09:52:40 <gmann> dansmith: can quickly update on this if we are missing anything ^^
09:53:09 <tosky> ok, I mean, a solution can be found, I just needed to double check and see what could be the "right" solution
09:53:21 <tosky> who are the reference contacts for grenade these days?
09:53:36 <gmann> yeah, i feel plugin should not needed to set the branches but not 100% sure
09:53:53 <gmann> you can contact dansmith and he will be in your TZ.
09:53:55 <tosky> not by default at least
09:54:27 <tosky> thanks
09:55:01 <gmann> anything else to discuss for today or we close the office hour.
09:55:09 <tosky> nothing else from me
09:55:24 <masayukig> nope
09:55:29 <gmann> one update nd lls end mail too. we will cancel the next week office hour due to PTG
09:55:36 <gmann> and resume right after PTG week.
09:55:46 <masayukig> yeah
09:56:02 <gmann> ok, thanks everyone for joining. have a safe travel and see u in Denver.
09:56:34 <gmann> #endmeeting