07:59:47 #startmeeting qa 07:59:48 Meeting started Thu Mar 8 07:59:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:59:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 07:59:51 The meeting name has been set to 'qa' 08:00:01 who all here today? 08:01:25 o/ 08:01:47 masayukig[m]: seems like 2 of us, let;'s wait for more people 08:01:54 andreaf: afazekas chandankumar ping 08:02:02 yeah 08:02:59 * masayukig[m] is sitting next to gmann now 08:03:28 let's start or we can just speak f2f with some drink :) 08:03:39 heh 08:03:45 anyways let's start. 08:03:52 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Mar_8th_2018_.280800_UTC.29 08:03:56 today agenda ^^ 08:04:21 This is probably last meeting as we discussed in PTG to have office hours only 08:04:38 So i will be using this meeting as publishing the new office hour time etc 08:04:56 #topic Previous Meeting Action review 08:04:58 o/ 08:05:09 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-02-22-08.00.html 08:05:19 this is more pre PTG things and all done 08:05:20 andreaf: hi 08:05:33 #topic Rocky PTG Summary 08:05:49 i sent the summary for PTG over mail 08:05:52 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128002.html 08:06:11 you can also find the details on etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-ptg 08:07:10 gmann_: thanks for the mail! I think we actually still need to discuss interop things 08:07:45 in the dev-ml, gerrit, etc 08:07:46 we captured the Rocky priority also #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-ptg-rocky-priority 08:08:02 masayukig[m]: yea, so that we will keep discussing on gerrit probably 08:08:29 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ 08:08:38 gmann_: yeah, that should be the good place 08:08:40 or the new patch mentioned in that 08:09:02 from QA perspetive, it become little hard to own the new plugins repo 08:09:30 i am totally fine to help and share the review bandwidth for interop tests 08:09:56 but owning the new interop plugin repo might be difficult for us 08:10:20 gmann_ the proposal was only to have them under QA governance it doesn't mean we have to write the tests or anything 08:10:53 gmann_ there is not much difference in being responsible for reviews in tempest or in a plugin from my perpsective 08:11:17 gmann_ the only difference would be with heat since their tests are in gabbi 08:11:39 andreaf: yea, i agree. and i think that's was our wed discussion to have the in tempest 08:11:40 gmann_ but pretty much reviews for interop tests would be "do not change it" in most cases 08:12:24 so it is not very clear to me that it should go under QA repos as it was mentioned that it is project own things 08:12:31 gmann_ well with teams using plugins it would be much less work for us and for the teams 08:13:13 gmann_: yeah, I agree. It should be described more details 08:13:38 current gerrit and comments does not say clearly that it has to be in QA repo. 08:14:08 what do you mean by "QA repo"? 08:14:34 Who should write, review, maintain, etc..? 08:14:37 under QA governance as QA maintained deliverables . 08:15:37 I feel some gaps are still there 08:15:48 well devstack-plugin-ceph and devstack-plugin-container are under QA governance and we do not do really much with those 08:16:36 having the repo under the QA governance by itself is not a burden at all I think 08:16:59 i am waiting to have clear view on this patch and see what it mean for us as per maintenance and owning means - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550571/ 08:17:01 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550571/ 08:17:03 andreaf: It's nice if everyone think so 08:17:41 yea let's see how it is structure and what all team are in core team which are the key. 08:17:49 anyway, I think we can clarify that in that patch 08:18:16 masayukig[m] the only thing that is expected from the qa team is to do reviews on interop tests 08:18:50 but thats true with any solution we may come up with, whether it's tempest, original plugins, extra plugins 08:18:53 agree but that was not written clearly. it is being written as plugins repo own by QA team. which is not clear to me 08:19:12 andreaf: yeah, that's my expectation 08:19:17 review with all plugin repo is all fine. 08:19:41 anyways, i think chris is putting it in more better and clear way in his patch. 08:19:55 we can discuss there. 08:19:57 ok 08:20:19 as long as core team is more than QA and interop and projects it make sense than having only QA team as core 08:20:49 let's move next as we are in ops meetup and about to close the venue 08:21:07 #topic Vancouver Summit Planning 08:21:13 i sent mail for QA Brainstorming ideas. Forum Topic. 08:21:22 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/127947.html 08:21:43 please write the ideas of Forum topic on mentioned etherpad 08:21:55 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-qa-brainstorming 08:22:15 gmann_: sure 08:22:17 thanks 08:22:33 #topic Updated Meeting Time 08:22:45 as we discussed the new time for QA meeting. 08:23:05 we will have only office hours on every Thursday at 9:00 UTC and 17:00 UTC. 08:23:15 no more meeting. 08:23:39 if that went well we will continue on with office hour otherwise we can think of bringing meeting back 08:23:48 i will update the wiki and send mail also. 08:23:59 ++ 08:24:05 #action gmann_ to update the meeting things on wifi and ML 08:24:19 #topic Tempest 08:24:28 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open 08:24:35 current open reviews ^^ 08:25:03 anything on tempest or i would like to jump on open discussion 08:25:52 move to the open discussion? 08:26:00 k 08:26:03 #topic Open Discussion 08:26:14 anything to discus more 08:26:37 nothing from my side 08:26:59 andreaf: ? 08:27:10 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:multinode_zuulv3 could use some review love :) 08:27:31 andreaf: sure, i will try to do next week. 08:27:44 we are in OPS meetup straight from PTG 08:27:47 same here 08:28:10 ah right cool 08:28:17 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:multinode_zuulv3 08:28:28 gmann_ perhaps you want ask if people is interested in QA SIG? 08:28:39 ah yea 08:29:11 we had discussion on QA tools but did not specify the SIG things 08:29:39 but we are discussing having OPS meetup and PTG together and that will be good for QA SIG thing also 08:29:55 but that is not decided it is just input from people 08:31:27 anythings else 08:32:38 not from me 08:32:44 let's close then. 08:32:52 masayukig[m]: andreaf thanks for joining 08:33:02 #endmeeting