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08:00:45 <gmann> who all are here today
08:00:50 <masayukig> o/
08:00:53 <chandankumar> \o/
08:01:02 <zhufl> hi
08:01:06 <zhufl> I'll be leaving for vacation from 15 July to 27 July, and just in time to attend next UTC 8 meeting:)
08:01:12 <blancos> o/
08:01:42 <gmann> zhufl, ncie
08:01:44 <gmann> nice
08:01:47 <masayukig> zhufl: cool
08:02:00 <gmann> let's for a minute in case more people join
08:02:01 <zhufl> gmann, masayukig:)
08:02:12 <chandankumar> zhufl: enjoy your holidays :-)
08:02:27 <zhufl> chandankumar: thanks^-^
08:04:09 <gmann> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_July_13th_2017_.280800_UTC.29
08:04:15 <gmann> ^^ today agenda
08:04:29 <gmann> #topic Previous Meeting Action review
08:04:47 <gmann> no AI from last meeting bu i think i have from last to last meeting
08:05:02 <gmann> 1. gmann to check with samP about HA testing spec
08:05:14 <gmann> samP, has updated spec and we need to review
08:05:20 <gmann> let discuss this in spec topic
08:05:28 <samP> hi
08:05:31 <samP> gmann: hi
08:05:40 <gmann> samP, hi.
08:05:43 <gmann> 2. gmann to discuss plugin clients in tempest with team and get consensus
08:06:32 <gmann> i feel to own those client in tempest side and plugin can use from tempest but let's get the consensus in tempest topic and close this long pending AI
08:07:11 <gmann> #topic PTG
08:07:39 <gmann> on this anything to discuss?
08:08:07 <gmann> we still have around 1.5 month for PTG and andreaf can start the etherpad for ideas in next week or 2
08:08:26 <gmann> chandankumar, zhufl what about your visa things?
08:08:42 <zhufl> gmann: no good news:(
08:08:44 <chandankumar> gmann: i will start visa process next week
08:08:51 <gmann> chandankumar, nice
08:08:55 <gmann> zhufl, ohh
08:10:03 <gmann> #topic Gate Stability
08:10:33 <gmann> few pikes in last couple of weeks
08:10:37 <gmann> #link https://goo.gl/ptPgEw
08:11:28 <gmann> #link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html
08:12:34 <gmann> i remember we hit wsgi bugs and some timeout, let's see in gate categorization
08:13:57 <gmann> chandankumar, anything you found for gate last week?
08:14:38 <chandankumar> gmann: nope, still learning to triage gate, may be next week having somethign
08:15:12 <chandankumar> i was looking at this http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/project/openstack~2Ftempest?searchJob=periodic
08:15:44 <gmann> anything wrong in periodic jobs?
08:15:53 <chandankumar> http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/test/tempest.api.compute.limits.test_absolute_limits_negative.AbsoluteLimitsNegativeTestJSON.test_max_image_meta_exceed_limit got failed  has 12 failurs
08:16:38 <chandankumar> gmann: failing due to http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-tempest-dsvm-nnet-ubuntu-xenial-ocata/6412a02/console.html timed out
08:18:21 <gmann> chandankumar, ohk
08:18:31 <gmann> chandankumar, you have log for first failure? limit one
08:18:40 <gmann> seems like periodic-tempest-dsvm-nnet-ubuntu-xenial-ocata not stable.
08:18:48 <chandankumar> gmann: still looking, will update after meeting
08:19:15 <gmann> this failing on every tests seems
08:19:31 <gmann> chandankumar, thanks a lot. let's debug this after meeting
08:19:46 <gmann> #topic Specs Reviews
08:19:53 <gmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z
08:20:20 <gmann> samP, i know you are waiting for review on this -https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/
08:20:45 <samP> gmann: yes :)
08:20:50 <gmann> samP, i will review it before monday (as no cricket this week for me :))
08:21:05 <gmann> samP, anything you want to bring or pointed out
08:21:10 <samP> gmann: great...
08:21:11 <chandankumar> samP: can we add some content about auto-healing to spec file
08:21:23 <samP> chandankumar: sure, I will update it.
08:21:37 <gmann> yea that will be nice
08:22:30 <gmann> we have another open spec from Felipe - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461140/
08:22:33 <samP> gmann: I was discussed with andreaf yesterday about, have some space to discuss about more details for destructive testing
08:22:43 <samP> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-qa/%23openstack-qa.2017-07-12.log.html#t2017-07-12T13:25:41
08:22:50 <gmann> samP, ok
08:23:37 <samP> gmann: I will push another 2-3 specs related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/
08:24:12 <gmann> samP, on qa?
08:24:26 <gmann> samP, i did not get complete conversation
08:25:35 <samP> gmann: Some members in LCOO are working with me on this. we do not have a place to collaborate our work.
08:26:01 <chandankumar> samP: sorry i got confused about place.
08:26:24 <chandankumar> samP: we can use openstack wiki or etherpad to collaborate
08:26:36 <chandankumar> or is it something else.
08:27:02 <gmann> samP, ok, and you mean the detail about destructive testing LCOO has should go where?
08:27:30 <gmann> samP, or some new proposal from LCOO?
08:27:46 <samP> chandankumar: yes.. we cold. but these documents are related to architecture and need to review them
08:28:04 <samP> gmann: not a new proposal.
08:28:41 <gmann> samP, then about architecture of destructive testing  ?
08:29:29 <samP> gmann: yes.. its about tool selection, test scenarios etc..
08:29:39 <gmann> samP, got it
08:29:49 <gmann> samP, so we can go like this
08:30:18 <samP> I could create a wiki for this first.. then push those docs to qa spec.
08:30:33 <gmann> let's merge this first which is kind of idea acceptance - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/
08:30:56 <samP> gmann: sure..
08:31:04 <gmann> we agreed in barcelona summit but not any official doc merged
08:31:43 <gmann> 2 step to have another spec about detail architecture and tool, scenario selection etc
08:32:02 <gmann> which is more about implementation detail
08:32:23 <samP> gmann: exactly
08:32:28 <gmann> 2 tep can be further divided into parts depends on what all things you are covering in that
08:32:35 <gmann> tep-> step
08:33:03 <gmann> samP, cool. so let us review first spec and in parallel you can start other spec also
08:33:31 <samP> gmann: sure
08:33:38 <gmann> andreaf, ^^ hope this process is fine for you
08:33:50 <gmann> samP, thanks
08:34:01 <gmann> anything else on spec
08:34:26 <gmann> blancos, i am adding this also in my list -https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461140/
08:35:21 <gmann> #topic Tempest
08:35:27 <samP> gmann: thanks..
08:35:30 <blancos> gmann Okay thank you :)
08:35:39 <gmann> Bug Triage:
08:35:57 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-qa-bug-triage
08:36:03 <gmann> chandankumar, is it your turn?
08:36:08 <chandankumar> gmann: yes
08:36:16 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report
08:36:37 <gmann> chandankumar, i updated this and open for glance-store - https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1697953
08:36:38 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1697953 in tempest "test_shelve_unshelve_server fails on Ceph jobs" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Ghanshyam Mann (ghanshyammann)
08:36:41 <chandankumar> New Bugs: 8 -> 3, open bugs: 102 -> 107, In Progress: 29 -> 38, High Importance : 8 -> 7
08:37:01 <chandankumar> gmann: other 2 new bugs, just need information from the reporter
08:37:11 <chandankumar> then it will be confirmed
08:37:13 <gmann> chandankumar, in-progress increased ? i thought you said you unassigned some bugs
08:37:27 <gmann> so i thought NEW count will increase
08:38:00 <chandankumar> gmann: so some of them bugs have reviewed linked but status does not got changed so i updated it
08:38:25 <chandankumar> gmann: and some bugs which are in open bug quite old have got unassigned
08:38:27 <gmann> chandankumar, ohk
08:38:46 <chandankumar> gmann: for the same i have commented on their reviews also on gerrit
08:38:50 <gmann> chandankumar, ok but unassigned one should go from in-progress -> new
08:38:50 <chandankumar> to update
08:39:13 <chandankumar> gmann: oh, i will update the status
08:39:27 <gmann> or at least to confirmed or triaged if they are already triaged
08:39:42 <gmann> because in-progress without assignee does not make sense
08:40:37 <masayukig> gmann: +1
08:40:51 <chandankumar> gmann: updated the same on etherpad
08:40:55 <gmann> chandankumar, thanks for triage. nice work.
08:40:59 <gmann> chandankumar, nice
08:41:05 <gmann> next week turn is prateek
08:42:13 <gmann> on Tempest, current open reviews -  #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open
08:42:46 <chandankumar> gmann: masayukig https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481939/ needs a look,
08:43:11 <gmann> make sure we do not merge any tests which are much backend specific and fail on ceph etc
08:43:35 <chandankumar> gmann: on test difference please have a look on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480856/ then i will update it
08:43:52 <gmann> chandankumar, sure
08:44:22 <gmann> hope cleanup working fine :) i have not tried since long
08:44:35 <masayukig> chandankumar: I'll take a look at it later
08:44:40 <gmann> masayukig, you know we everytime we tried that and had some bug
08:44:56 <gmann> anything else on tempest
08:45:15 <chandankumar> gmann: how can i minimize time of tempest init?
08:45:34 <gmann> chandankumar, does it take much time?
08:45:44 <chandankumar> gmann: in my system 25-30 sec
08:46:01 <masayukig> gmann: sorry, I don't catch what you mean..
08:46:09 <gmann> is it long or very long
08:46:15 <chandankumar> 4 gb Devstack box, need pointers on how to optimize
08:46:45 <gmann> masayukig, i was saying when we tried tempest cleanup in past it used to have bugs. i hope it is running fine now
08:47:01 <chandankumar> gmann: it would be good if it takes less time.
08:47:05 <gmann> 4gb humm you can run devstack?
08:47:08 <masayukig> gmann: ah,  I see
08:47:13 <masayukig> thx
08:47:46 <chandankumar> gmann: i do all my development in small space by enabling 4 gb another swap
08:47:50 <gmann> chandankumar, but yea you can check if we can optimize that. let's discuss next week or so on this
08:47:56 <chandankumar> gmann: sure
08:47:57 <gmann> chandankumar, ohk
08:48:00 <gmann> #topic Patrole
08:48:14 <gmann> #link
08:48:16 <gmann> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/patrole
08:48:20 <gmann> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/patrole
08:48:25 <gmann> blancos, your turn
08:48:41 <blancos> Nothing much to report besides the spec you linked earlier
08:48:53 <blancos> We'd welcome some outside eyes on reviews as well :)
08:49:42 <gmann> blancos, thanks. i try to do but not all.
08:50:14 <gmann> blancos, i saw some change on nova side from Rick about policy change
08:50:27 <gmann> i will check if that does not break upgrade things
08:50:45 <blancos> gmann Okay, thank you
08:51:02 <gmann> nova spec for patrole is not reviewed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471145/
08:51:12 <gmann> most probably it will go for Queens
08:51:39 <gmann> blancos, is it ok or you want in pike only
08:52:12 <blancos> gmann It'd be nice for Pike, but we understand that's probably not reasonable to expect
08:53:01 <gmann> yea pike priority is other from api side.
08:53:21 <gmann> but i will try to discuss sometime in api meeting and with team
08:53:46 <gmann> #topic Critical Reviews
08:53:54 <gmann> any critical reviews
08:55:20 <gmann> #topic Documentation
08:55:44 <gmann> anything to discuss on doc things
08:56:12 <chandankumar> gmann: nope from myside currently.
08:56:21 <gmann> ok
08:56:42 <masayukig> nothing from me
08:56:46 <gmann> #topic Open Discussion
08:57:09 <gmann> anything more to discuss or we can close early (3 min though :))
08:57:25 <chandankumar> gmann: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html i am thinking to update this page with latest stats
08:57:47 <chandankumar> like some of projects have already moved their plugins to a seperate repo
08:58:02 <gmann> chandankumar, nice, that is much helpful
08:58:09 <chandankumar> freezer, keystone, kuryr is done
08:58:16 <chandankumar> l2gw is in progress
08:58:33 <masayukig> chandankumar: cool
08:58:40 <gmann> chandankumar, designate already done
08:58:46 <chandankumar> gmann: yes
08:58:50 <masayukig> great
08:59:07 <masayukig> 1 min
08:59:11 <gmann> thanks
08:59:25 <chandankumar> few seconds..
08:59:31 <masayukig> :-p
08:59:56 <gmann> thanks all for joining
09:00:01 <gmann> #endmeeting qa