14:13:56 #startmeeting publiccloud_wg 14:13:57 Meeting started Thu Apr 11 14:13:56 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:13:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:14:01 The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' 14:14:12 Lets start 14:14:22 Okay:) 14:14:22 Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:14:46 #topic 1. Expose WGs and SIGs 14:15:18 I guess we wont have much of a discussion since it is just you and me here ricolin :-) 14:15:45 tobberydberg, yep, and just reviewed your etherpad, I think it's great 14:16:00 For the record, you have sent out a request for information and feedback to the mailing list 14:16:03 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004246.html 14:16:26 I drafted a response to that located at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-help-most-needed-feedback 14:16:44 tobberydberg, yeah, so you can reply that ML once it's ready 14:17:34 we got generally nice percentage of reply from SIGs/WGs 14:17:43 Good 14:18:00 Did someone reply to the list it self, or just directly to you? 14:18:02 I will collect them and share on etherpad 14:18:10 ok, cool 14:18:28 As a promotion for the session in Denver, please attend 14:18:29 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23612/help-most-needed-for-sigs-and-wgs 14:18:36 I got one or two directly message rest from ML 14:20:52 yep, I will leave it open for comments until tomorrow, then I send it to the mailinglist 14:20:58 nice 14:21:39 Anything else from you on that topic? 14:21:53 nope 14:22:05 ok 14:22:20 #topic 2. Migrating to SIG 14:22:49 Well, proposed from the community that we consider converting to a SIG 14:23:33 Have been discussed earlier as well, main driver is to follow community and be under the governance of both UC and TC 14:23:52 ricolin - anything to add to that? 14:24:25 tobberydberg, so I think the very first step is just to rename from WG to SIG 14:24:50 we can done that before summit, and maybe discuss the next step in Summit 14:24:53 or PTG 14:26:00 tobberydberg, That means to remove from https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml and add-in in https://github.com/openstack/governance-sigs/blob/master/sigs.yaml 14:26:34 during the review process TCs and UCs will give their opinions 14:26:45 Thanks 14:26:55 I mean and the entire community too:) 14:27:38 Yes, lets see if we can get some internal comments to that before making the choice, but otherwise definitely a discussion point for Denver Summit/PTG 14:28:27 tobberydberg, and a potential announce point about this SIG too:) 14:28:37 yes :-) 14:29:20 #topic 3. Planning Summit and PTG 14:30:15 We have a couple of related Forum topics submitted to the summit, will add links to those as well 14:31:09 For the PTG, we have a half day booked at Thursday (first day of PTG) .... so any suggestions for topics are appreciated 14:32:10 Would be good if we could all help out revisiting the bugs section in our launchpad, mark as solved, mark as important, add new and rank the most important once 14:32:28 I might send out an email around that as well 14:33:25 #topic 4. Other topics 14:34:12 So I got one for asking some test in real environment for Heat multi-cloud support 14:34:27 Today we are not using the time slot we have on even weeks very much, maybe we should remove that from the schedule. But we can postpone that to denver 14:34:55 sure 14:35:02 yes, would would be needed for that? Access to cloud? 14:35:59 I mean I kind of hope people who have CA cert environment can help with test the functionality 14:36:33 We currently have new multi openstack cloud support in Stein release 14:36:47 and it can use Cacert as SSL security 14:37:02 That is awesome to hear! 14:37:24 Not possible to use with 2 different keystones and regular password auth? 14:37:25 And I hope that function is near ready for production 14:38:30 those two cloud can have completely separate environment, and only been able to use the API from another cloud 14:39:03 Ok ok 14:39:08 I have a document here to explain everything 14:39:09 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649220/ 14:40:45 cool 14:40:49 So if anyone can help with give more test on that will be very helpful 14:41:39 I will see what I can find possible to to from my end. But also a good reach out to do in Denver where I hope we will be more than just you and me =) 14:42:03 definitely 14:43:24 Anything else from your end ricolin ? 14:43:36 I have no other items 14:44:19 Yes, just wondering if there's any plan for discuss about whether to move to storyboard for public cloud wg:) 14:46:03 Been some time since that was discussed, back at that time, people felt that storyboard was messy to use and felt that the bugs list in launchpad was a better place for what we are using it for at this point 14:48:01 tobberydberg, storyboard was messy back at some time 14:49:05 I sense it's getting better now, just wondering if it can cover the use cases for you guys 14:49:21 or does it need more improvement 14:49:33 That is what we have to figure out as well 14:50:20 thinking about the list of "missing features" that we have as "bugs" today, that is basically what we have in there today 14:50:57 that will be a nice start 14:51:57 would that fit in as a "Board/Worklist"? 14:52:12 I think it's a workinglist 14:52:27 +1 14:52:36 Will look at that 14:52:51 in heat we tag story with some specific tag maybe like "missing-feature" 14:53:13 and you can have a working list to list all story with that tag 14:53:58 or list story with that tag and still not closed, so you will have a clear target list there 14:54:23 Board can do the same, just IMO worklist is faster 14:54:40 ok, good to know 14:55:40 you can actually create your own private working list or board so feel free to play around storyboard and see if anything need to be improve 14:56:51 Will definitely try that out, thanks 14:58:00 that's all from me 14:58:55 Thanks a lot for joining today ricolin ! Always nice to have you here! :-) 14:59:29 Then we close todays meeting! See you soon in Denver! :-) 14:59:43 tobberydberg, see you there!!:) 15:00:28 #endmeeting