14:20:30 <tobberydberg> #startmeeting publiccloud-wg
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14:20:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg'
14:22:04 <tobberydberg> Agenda at #https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg
14:22:23 <tobberydberg> Please put your name there
14:23:01 <tobberydberg> #topic 1. Planning of PTG agenda
14:23:16 <tobberydberg> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-ptg-rocky
14:23:38 <tobberydberg> zhipeng created a etherpad for this ^^
14:24:32 <zhipeng> yep, if you have any ideas feel free to share it on the etherpad
14:24:37 <tobberydberg> Right now only you and me attending. Hope that we can get some more to participate in a few discussions there, and/or a dinner during one of the evenings
14:24:52 <tobberydberg> Exactly what I was about to say, good
14:24:58 <tobberydberg> I did add 2 topics
14:25:33 <tobberydberg> But, I also hope that we get some time to do some real work moving forward towards our goals
14:25:55 <zhipeng> usually that's what we do at PTG, just doing work lol
14:26:05 <tobberydberg> cool
14:26:25 <tobberydberg> this will be my first you will be the one guiding me around =)
14:26:42 <zhipeng> :P
14:27:35 <tobberydberg> So, what do you say, how does it work, do we need a more detailed plan then just the topics as they are?
14:27:45 <tobberydberg> Time and date for example?
14:28:19 <tobberydberg> I have a few more items that we might work with as well during that week, but not sure they need to be added as a topic
14:28:24 <zhipeng> yes usually it is better to have a per-day planning
14:28:31 <tobberydberg> ok ok
14:29:31 <tobberydberg> So, we put the topics into a daily agenda for Monday and Tuesday, then Wed and Thur are dedicated for actual work as well?
14:29:59 <tobberydberg> Do you have a lot of other sigs and projects to participate in?
14:30:38 <zhipeng> for me Wed and Thur might just jumping around Nova meetings
14:30:55 <tobberydberg> But ok, lets add more and change that to a day to day agenda
14:31:04 <tobberydberg> ok ok
14:31:12 <zhipeng> so if there is no Nova meeting of interest, I could definitely work on publiccloud_wg stuff
14:31:38 <tobberydberg> awesome! I might tag along to some meetings just to get a feel for how it workds
14:31:46 <zhipeng> Thing is Cyborg, which I serve as PTL, also put on Monday and Tuesday
14:31:57 <zhipeng> therefore I need to balance ....
14:32:09 <zhipeng> maybe just set one day schedule for Cyborg
14:32:16 <zhipeng> or two half days
14:32:30 <pilgrimstack> I wee "federated billing/federated identity/…" in the etherpad
14:32:42 <tobberydberg> ok ok. Lets have a discussion about that as soon as you know
14:33:00 <zhipeng> that was my blockchain pitch ?
14:33:10 <pilgrimstack> it was on the goals for the passport program ?
14:33:34 <zhipeng> it was like an experiment
14:33:35 <tobberydberg> One of the suggestions earlier, right?
14:33:44 <zhipeng> let's see how it goes :P
14:34:21 <tobberydberg> Changing topic here
14:34:28 <tobberydberg> #topic 2. Plan for meeting the goals for Vancouver. When? Where and What?
14:35:37 <tobberydberg> This topic is just to get it out to all of you - how will we be able to meet the goals for Vancouver?
14:35:51 <tobberydberg> How much time do you all have to do real work?
14:35:53 <zhipeng> or shall we adjust it to what extent
14:36:22 <tobberydberg> The list of goals?
14:36:28 <zhipeng> yep
14:36:29 <pilgrimstack> https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/publiccloud-wg/tree/doc/source/passport_program.rst?h=refs/changes/52/511252/1
14:36:34 <pilgrimstack> Version 1 ?
14:36:39 <pilgrimstack> for vancouver?
14:37:47 <tobberydberg> We can zhipeng ... but imoprtant to know what time we have to play with as well
14:38:07 <zhipeng> defnitely
14:38:40 <tobberydberg> pilgrimstack: That is a first spec draft basically, that has been on the agenda to update
14:39:11 <tobberydberg> I hope to be able to put in around 20%
14:39:16 <zhipeng> I think what I would work on for publiccloud_wg in H1, is to see our feature list turned to a document
14:39:20 <pilgrimstack> ok so where are listed the vancouver goals?
14:39:25 <pilgrimstack> we have something ?
14:39:30 <zhipeng> to set up scenarios for the SDK testing
14:39:45 <zhipeng> and set up the testnet for Passport Ledger experiment
14:40:08 <tobberydberg> pilgrimstack: We have wage goals, but I will make sure that is added to the Wiki
14:40:24 <zhipeng> so these are my priorities, we could mingle and then see what goals should we set for Vancouver
14:40:32 <tobberydberg> you can find them at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg
14:41:21 <pilgrimstack> ok I remember.
14:41:50 <tobberydberg> ok. Ad I see it, passport program in general and missing features are our focus right now
14:41:55 <pilgrimstack> So my POV is we should make the actual passport program more successful before developping something else
14:42:10 <pilgrimstack> that means working on communication with the foundation
14:42:52 <pilgrimstack> what do you think ?
14:42:54 <tobberydberg> We are to few people I believe to do much more, would be awesome to get some more people involved and prioritise the meetings
14:43:13 <tobberydberg> Agree pilgrimstack
14:43:23 <tobberydberg> I have reached out to Flanders
14:43:37 <tobberydberg> Hope to get some answers there soon
14:44:15 <pilgrimstack> We should ask Lauren for the little topic we have
14:44:26 <pilgrimstack> •	-- What has been done from a marketing perspective?
14:44:26 <pilgrimstack> •	-- google "try openstack" and passport should be shown
14:44:26 <pilgrimstack> •	-- https://www.openstack.org/software/start/ doesn't link back to passport
14:44:26 <pilgrimstack> •	-- what can we do to get more traffic and marketing PP more?
14:44:32 <tobberydberg> As you pointed out, it is not very good communicated. If someone find a link in the menu to the program, please let me know...
14:44:49 <pilgrimstack> +1
14:45:05 <tobberydberg> Thanks for those!
14:45:46 <tobberydberg> Adding that to the notes to work more with that
14:45:56 <tobberydberg> we need feedback from the current clouds as well
14:46:09 <pilgrimstack> we already had it in the previous meeting ;)
14:46:20 <pilgrimstack> but yes, we should work on that
14:46:50 <tobberydberg> yea
14:46:52 <pilgrimstack> Who will be our best contact in the foundation for that ?
14:47:09 <pilgrimstack> Lauren ?
14:47:39 <tobberydberg> I asked Flanders for contacts for the different questions, but might be Lauren or Chris as well...
14:47:42 <zhipeng> and Chris Hoge
14:48:31 <tobberydberg> #action tobberydberg to reach out again to foundation with questions regarding passport progranm
14:49:10 <tobberydberg> Just to have it said ..... feel free to add items to the agenda before and during the meetings =)
14:49:50 <tobberydberg> Since time is what it is ... should we schedule another work session for the "missing features"?
14:50:50 <zhipeng> yes
14:51:14 <tobberydberg> Another time of day to try to get other people involved as well?
14:51:29 <tobberydberg> Like 0800 UTC?
14:52:27 <tobberydberg> Next week wednesday?
14:52:28 <zhipeng> tmr ?
14:52:34 <zhipeng> ah
14:52:41 <zhipeng> works for me
14:52:41 <tobberydberg> well
14:52:48 <tobberydberg> I can tmr as well
14:52:52 <zhipeng> tmr also works :P
14:52:58 <tobberydberg> We can do both?
14:53:18 <tobberydberg> 0800 UTC tmr?
14:54:03 <zhipeng> yep I can do that :)
14:55:44 <tobberydberg> cool! I can send out invite!
14:56:10 <tobberydberg> We can do some planning of the PTG agenda in our channel as well
14:56:41 <tobberydberg> Question zhipeng: Do you have and IRC bouncer so that you catch messages offline?
14:57:06 <zhipeng> I do have one, but it seems I cannnot add the publiclcoud irc channel
14:57:13 <zhipeng> maybe it is not registered ?
14:57:47 <tobberydberg> hmmm...I can so I guess it is
14:59:01 <tobberydberg> But ok. We call it the day now and continue tomorrow!
14:59:20 <tobberydberg> Thanks for joining folks!
14:59:38 <tobberydberg> #endmeeting