14:02:36 #startmeeting publiccloud-wg 14:02:37 Meeting started Wed Oct 11 14:02:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:02:41 The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' 14:02:45 Hi everyone! o/ 14:02:54 hi ! 14:03:01 Who is here for the PCWG meeting? 14:03:26 Please sign your name at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:03:38 Agenda is there as well! 14:04:19 hi! 14:04:26 Hi yankcrime 14:04:37 I guess seanhandley is around as well 14:04:40 o/ 14:05:12 I guess we get started and let more people join in later... 14:05:23 #topic 1. Review Action Points 14:05:37 eanhandley To write up initial draft spec for Passport Program v1 technical workflow 14:05:56 seanhandley: Missed an "s" there... =) 14:06:13 Yes 14:06:21 So I got started on that here: https://github.com/seanhandley/publiccloud-wg/commit/5329342b79dd95f1f24306bb354aa0eea02fb83d 14:06:35 Still needs a lot of editorial work 14:06:52 and I got a reasonable way through discussing publishing specs on specs.openstack.org with clarkb 14:07:00 there's some special process to get docs published there 14:07:09 but he's been swamped with the zuul v3 rollout 14:07:21 so sadly I'm still uncertain what needs to happen in order to publish 14:07:35 Anyway, there's some content in the .rst file there so that's something :) 14:07:53 I guess my next AP is to follow up with clarkb and get it published whenever possible 14:08:04 Ok. Nice work seanhandley 14:08:14 In the meantime I can merge it to our master branch via gerrit so others can contribute 14:08:21 yes, would be good! 14:08:21 we could host it at the publiccloud wg repo right ? 14:08:32 +1 14:08:35 Yes zhipeng, that's where the RST files will be 14:08:39 just like the api-wg do 14:08:46 Can you take that as an action? 14:08:50 seanhandley you will need git review that using openstack gerrit 14:09:00 it could not be done on github 14:09:14 I know zhipeng 14:09:21 I've merged some changes via gerrit there already 14:09:29 :) gr8t ! 14:09:39 I just held out on this change because I wanted to know clearly how to deploy specs 14:09:45 you could add tobias and me for review 14:09:54 Sure - I'll do that shortly 14:10:06 ok, good! 14:10:11 Next: * tobberydberg to submit 1 x technical forum session 14:10:44 Did submit 2 sessions....should be reviewed and decided today I believe 14:11:07 One on missing features and one passport moving forward basically 14:11:08 (PS there's a gerrit link in the #openstack-publiccloud channel if you want to review) 14:11:43 ah nice ! 14:12:22 Hi 14:12:31 welcome 14:12:43 Hi. 14:12:54 will do review as soon as my ubuntu account let me in... 14:13:05 welcome wondra and hogepodge 14:13:15 please put your name at the etherpad 14:13:27 hi o/ 14:13:49 I'm on mobile right now 14:13:52 * zhipeng DeathPing Melvin for a response on the SIG transformation process 14:14:07 any update on that zhipeng? 14:14:16 melvin told me he discussed with you ? 14:14:29 like the week before last week 14:15:46 we had a discussion I remember...will look into that 14:16:11 zhipeng Contact Tom to get the meetup series officially recognised 14:16:36 I need to do that tmr, sorry 14:16:50 Pretty close to deadline now, but maybe we can get something out of it 14:16:54 moving on 14:16:55 2. Passport Program 14:17:00 #topic 2. Passport Program 14:17:32 So, please help me out here with the things I miss... 14:17:35 But, status 14:17:57 We are reviewing applications (can be found at the link at the agenda) 14:18:32 Foundation are working on graphics right now, and there will be 2 webinars this week for questions 14:19:01 First webinar is tomorrow at 1500 UTC, next one friday 0000 UTC (?) 14:19:21 I'll be able to attend the 1st webinar 14:19:24 but not the 2nd 14:19:32 (Sorry, 5 year anniversary) 14:19:41 Everyone with questions regarding the launch or something else regarding the program are welcome 14:20:09 have those sessions been announced anywhere in particular tobberydberg ? 14:20:11 np seanhandley...if I manage to stay awake, I'll try to join 14:20:37 In emails to all the signed up parties yankcrime 14:21:08 We can send the same announcement to the mailing list 14:21:28 +1 14:21:31 +1 14:21:35 if it's still open to all, i.e there's still a chance for more public clouds to sign up then yes, i think it should be circulated a bit more widely 14:21:41 can you do that hogepodge ? 14:21:49 Yes 14:21:58 Thanks! 14:22:57 I would say it is semi-open ... we will not have time to "evaluate" all new signups I guess... AND they will not have time to integrate the landingpage/graphics/texts 14:24:09 One thing I should mention just FYI all 14:24:21 * tobberydberg approved your commit seanhandley 14:24:30 Thanks tobberydberg +1 14:24:39 DataCentred is officially set to cease trading at the end of October :( 14:24:50 We had a rescue bid for the business but it failed 14:25:06 actually, datacentred is no longer trading 14:25:08 so if you see it anywhere regarding the Passport Program, strike out the name - we won't have a running cloud very soon 14:25:24 Yeah, technically 14:25:37 but yes, it's over for datacentred in its current form 14:26:25 as you know, sorry for you guys! 14:27:01 Thanks tobberydberg. Don't want to dwell on it anyway - just want to make sure people know the situation. Now back to our regular programming :-) 14:27:08 And hope you find interesting challenges containing openstack very soon 14:27:18 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Y2_TiSjElnPdNvVtIsco2_PVTtfKdZDMtvL5mmW6E7A/ 14:27:31 That is something that is up for feedback! 14:27:58 Would like to encourage you all to read and comment, all feedback is welcome 14:28:21 The first part in particular, since that regards the webinar 14:29:06 we can have this question a little open and get back to during the meeting if you don't have any questions or something that you would like to discuss right away... 14:29:12 Ah nice - thanks! 14:29:25 yeah i think that'll take a little time to review 14:29:43 yes...I move on and we can get back to it later... 14:30:04 ...more passport... 14:30:51 Oct 16 - Finalize text/layout for Passport landing page on openstack.org 14:31:05 ...next on the timeline that is 14:31:32 Next: Oct 28th - Deadline for participating providers to have their website live/tested before launch 14:31:44 and finally ... 14:31:47 Nov 6 - launch passport program 14:32:01 what we hope for, first day of the summit 14:32:21 questions about that are also welcome at the webinars 14:32:39 so...leaving the PP for now, we return later during meeting 14:32:49 #topic 3. Meetup Copenhagen 14:33:00 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEETUPS-2017-publiccloud-wg 14:34:15 In the bottom at that ether, please add your name if you plan to attend IRL or remote 14:34:55 will we have a room ? 14:35:00 tobberydberg: that was everything, thanks! 14:35:10 thanks hogepodge! 14:35:49 We will zhipeng ... but we are not part of the official schedule, which is to bad and something that I will push for next time 14:36:16 I could put the information on the meetup group I created 14:36:25 so i suppose it would be 19th right ? 14:36:32 THe room and time/day isn't set either ... depending on peoples arrival etc 14:37:06 I'm also wondering if we could do a followup meetup next day, just find a cafe or some place 14:37:10 Haven't decided that either, but I guess that is for the best, some time during the afternoon there 14:37:20 if we got anything left uncoverd on 19th 14:37:37 I will not be available 20th unfortunately 14:37:57 but, I'm there all day 18th and 9th 14:38:00 *19th 14:38:17 okey 14:38:22 just a thought :P 14:38:29 If you have suggestion of agenda items, please add them to the meetup ether 14:38:41 goes for all of you 14:38:44 +1 14:38:48 so for the format 14:38:49 I'll do what I can 14:38:52 wondra: will you be in Copenhagen? 14:38:59 still not clear if I'll be able to attend in person btw zhipeng 14:39:06 May just be you and tobberydberg chairing 14:39:11 seanhandley understood 14:39:12 rmart04: will you be in Copenhagen? 14:39:44 We still hope for you seanhandley ;-) 14:39:45 No, but I'll be in the conference call tomorrow. 14:40:38 ok ok ... we will announce the day and time as soon as decided for meetup-meeting and hope that a few more will be able to join remotely 14:41:05 tobberydberg will we only have discussions or we could have presentations as well ? 14:41:41 Discussions 14:42:08 If we set an agenda, I will reach out to people I know will be there 14:42:46 Ok, leave that for now... 14:42:49 #topic Forum sessions 14:42:55 tobberydberg: Unlikely unfortunately :( I will also be on the call tomorrow though 14:43:10 ok rmart04 14:43:22 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-sydney-forum-sessions 14:43:32 Those are the once submitted 14:43:53 #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/29 14:44:02 #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/28 14:44:27 No voting I believe, but thats the links to the official entries 14:44:44 So....Who will be in Sydney? 14:45:10 zhipeng: You will be there right? 14:45:14 unfortunately i propably will not be there 14:45:21 oh =) 14:45:28 that's a shame! 14:45:42 :( 14:45:44 I will have things to do then =) 14:45:55 Glad we didn't submit more sessions =) 14:46:02 and melvin should be there, so i will delegate things to him :) 14:46:58 sounds good, maybe he can help moderating as well ... since we have a few sessions... 14:47:11 yep 14:47:55 but ok, I'll look for other help as well, Naser and Brono from Catalyst will be there I believe, will reach out to them later.... 14:48:12 (good that question came up) ;-) 14:48:29 #topic Other matters 14:48:31 ? 14:49:45 Oh! 14:49:53 Testing signed up clouds 14:49:56 ...or for that matter... Moving back to other topics 14:49:57 we should mention this 14:49:58 mnaser is like, the ultimate forum session moderator ;) 14:50:00 ah....yes 14:50:15 yes he is yankcrime 14:50:18 wasn't the thought there that we'd make interop a pre-req? 14:50:57 Long term yes 14:50:59 we had a few of those, but foundation had a will not to close out to many from the beginning 14:51:00 not in the first iteration 14:51:25 And we thought that was a good idea 14:51:27 righto, now i remember 14:51:35 regarding testing the signed up clouds: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10ID98gJTMd91hmQuKJDfdm6YtC1AjAbcf4QsgnqsPFI/edit#gid=1029030014 14:51:35 yeah, launch schedule is pretty aggressive 14:51:45 although any cloud worth its salt should be part of interop, obvs ;) 14:51:56 But, trying ut a few clouds, we will some job there... 14:51:58 myself, tobberydberg and zhipeng have four clouds each to test 14:52:18 totally agree yankcrime 14:52:38 Does Interop also mean Foundation membership and the Powered logo? Cause we kindnofndon't have the budget for that. 14:53:01 basically yes wondra 14:53:20 tobberydberg: when is our deadline for ux testing of public clouds? 14:53:55 Not sure 14:54:05 the sooner the better 14:54:32 zhipeng: I know last week was a vacation for you 14:54:41 I would like to be able to send a decision to the clouds (approved or not) at the same time as the graphics are sent... 14:54:43 Any chance you can take a look at some of those on the spreadsheet this week? 14:54:55 yes definitely 14:54:59 but, that is just a thought from my side 14:54:59 awesome 14:55:05 tobberydberg is ahead there 14:55:14 I've fallen behind in my testing this week - still 3 to go 14:55:36 which also will give them some time fixing some things if they need to 14:55:50 for example "privacy policy" 14:56:07 even though I know those are not done very quickly 14:56:22 so, maybe thats not a good idea? 14:56:38 ...wait with decision until 28th? 14:57:08 sounds reasonable to me 14:57:17 I'm sure the Foundation wants to square things away quickly 14:57:18 because then we will need to have another round of evaluation (are graphics in place) 14:57:28 the ramp up to the summit will make all foundation staff very busy 14:57:33 mmm 14:57:41 And probably us as well 14:57:44 any thoughts there hogepodge ? 14:59:59 hmm maybe continue in #openstack-publiccloud if necessary then? 15:00:03 Guess we're done for time in this room 15:00:12 yes 15:00:24 sounds good 15:00:31 thanks for today folks! 15:00:37 #endmeeting