14:01:53 #startmeeting publiccloud_wg 14:01:54 Meeting started Wed Jun 7 14:01:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:57 The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' 14:02:08 Hi folks o/ 14:02:19 So, see that we are a few here! Cool! Welcome! 14:02:36 Don't forget to sign the Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:02:39 Please put your name at the etherpad 14:02:51 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:03:01 hehehe....you are too quick for me =) 14:03:47 #topic Review last meetings APs 14:04:05 We have to APs from last week 14:04:21 fwiw i'm only around for the next 25 minutes or so as i've another call i need to be on at 15:30 14:04:27 so apologies in advance when i disappear 14:04:33 First...me sending out a summary...not much to discuss maybe, did it the day after. Was it ok? 14:04:57 Yeah it was fine tobberydberg 14:05:03 yes thx 14:05:05 No problem...lets do the first ones quick if possible 14:05:21 ok, good! 14:05:29 i think it needed to go to openstack-operators as well tobberydberg 14:05:47 (unless it did, and i missed that fact due to my mua being stupid) 14:05:52 ok, lets do that as well! 14:06:20 don't remember if I added only dev and user-committee 14:06:26 Next 14:06:41 definitely worth sending to -operators as well imo 14:06:41 zhipeng_: Status at missing features list 14:06:48 agree 14:07:00 so I ran a summary of our boston forum meeting 14:07:07 and highlighted in the spreadsheet 14:07:28 the items that were agreed at the forum session which are important 14:07:50 I also add an additional tab for the defcore testing features 14:07:56 will add contents later 14:08:56 for the development features, I think I will add a couple more myself later this week 14:09:01 Can we add a link tag for the spreadsheet please? 14:09:11 So, "Status" column: implemented=Y ? 14:09:23 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mf8OAyTzZxCKzYHMgBl-QK_2-XSycSkOjqCyMTIedkA 14:09:45 yes 14:10:13 well not strictly implemented 14:10:24 Planned or implemented? 14:10:26 as long as it is in the process of development 14:10:33 i put a Y there 14:10:39 how are we registering interested parties? 14:10:50 ok. Lets put definitions as comment or something? 14:10:56 was that collated during the session or are we expecting people to register interest themselves afterwards? 14:11:23 I think the latter 14:11:42 also we should probably circulate this once more, perhaps just calling attention to it with the next meeting summary email, and then give it a deadline 14:12:01 yes I agree 14:12:01 then we can draw a line under it and try to make progress with what we have 14:12:20 we could have more features for this cycle, since we are counting the gaps 14:12:27 yes agree 14:13:05 Ok. Deadline in terms of "implementation goals for Sydney" ? 14:13:30 Worth being aware of: I've been looking at Adjutant (formerly StackTask) which is released by Catalyst and will soon be added to gerrit. This will allow some of the missing features to be implemented (self service sign up, for instance). 14:13:41 deadline for "these are the gaps we will be looking at for the P cycle :P" 14:13:43 #link https://github.com/catalyst/adjutant 14:13:49 and for sydney we could have more 14:13:57 for some Q cycle items 14:14:34 ah, ok, so to next PTG first of all 14:14:40 yep 14:14:44 seanhandley: that is great 14:14:59 have not found the time to look into it more yet 14:15:12 It will require some development of additional python modules 14:15:16 yes and there is also an email from the catalyst team 14:15:22 if I remember correctly 14:15:24 depending on what the workflow is for signup for an organization, for instance 14:15:51 I'm aiming to make a working signup flow that mirrors what we currently have on our platform 14:16:15 So Stay Tuned :) 14:16:24 But ok. #action One more round of reminder of adding content and notes to the missing features list in the summary email 14:16:31 maybe we could do a podcast or something 14:16:48 i don't think other WGs had tried that 14:17:09 the first episode could be sean to introduce the catalyst work 14:17:10 Nice idea as well 14:17:24 and we could take turns for more contents :P 14:17:28 +1 14:17:28 but, stick to topic here =) 14:17:35 A screencast perhaps 14:17:45 But I like the discussion 14:17:51 ya that also works 14:18:16 given the number of people that turn up to this meeting, i'm not really convinced a podcast is worth the effort ;) 14:18:17 zhipeng_: Can you add definitions to the document as well? 14:19:25 #action zhipeng adds definitions to the missing features document 14:19:36 got it 14:19:41 thatnks 14:19:45 thanks 14:19:55 sputniks 14:19:57 :P 14:19:59 #topic 3rd co-chair 14:20:25 We would like to suggest a third co-chair of the group 14:20:44 And we propose seanhandley to be the 3rd 14:20:53 o/ 14:21:03 seconded 14:21:14 no pun intended :P 14:21:21 So, can we put that to a vote? 14:21:29 you already have a majority? 14:21:36 no point in voting! 14:21:55 :D 14:21:58 hehehe 14:22:07 If it's not clear, I'm also in favour of this 14:22:09 Lets do it for the "paper works" 14:22:14 #startvote Agree on accepting seanhandley as third co-chair ? yes, no 14:22:15 Begin voting on: Agree on accepting seanhandley as third co-chair ? Valid vote options are yes, no. 14:22:16 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:22:19 #vote yes 14:22:24 #vote yes 14:22:26 #vote yes 14:22:29 #vote yes 14:22:50 #endvote 14:22:51 Voted on "Agree on accepting seanhandley as third co-chair ?" Results are 14:22:53 yes (4): yankcrime, seanhandley, zhipeng_, tobberydberg 14:22:59 \o/ 14:23:04 Cool! Welcome seanhandley =) 14:23:10 congrats 14:23:26 we rely on you for the development lol 14:23:41 So far - I really hope more people step up 14:24:01 there will be 14:24:19 I hope to be able to as well! 14:24:26 #topic Set goals for Sydney Summit 14:25:12 I believe its easier for us to work in Summit cycles....or am I wrong? 14:25:27 Since we are not that many attending PTGs 14:25:31 yes I agree 14:25:45 It makes sense to sync up with the wider release cycle 14:25:56 I would propose for the MKT side of things of the summit 14:26:00 yup, we've no plans to attend the next PTG fwiw 14:26:08 Yes, agree on that 14:26:08 (maybe not even the next summit, we'll see) 14:26:19 we should consider make the EU public cloud meetup and the open passport 14:26:37 as part of the keynote that will be given by the foundation 14:27:09 Agree...but, maybe to soon to do that for Sydney? 14:27:25 yes, probably 14:27:29 Sydney is Nov, I think we got enough time tho 14:27:42 meetup +1 14:27:43 momentum is critical 14:27:50 yes, agree to that 14:27:54 yep at least we could do the meetup 14:28:08 passport needs more company procedures 14:28:16 but first we need to close some achievable goals I believe 14:28:26 oh yes definitely 14:28:39 i've got to run all - good luck with the remainder of the meeting and i'll keep an eye out for the mailing list update! 14:28:42 \o 14:28:47 How many companies are we here to put togther that passport? 14:29:13 for the open passport, we need to do a headcount by reaching out one by one I guess 14:29:44 since each company might have different promo plans 14:29:59 meetup is much more easier :P 14:30:08 yes, would like to continue with goals... I'll create a etherpad for the goals 14:30:15 Hey, could someone fill me in on the ‘open passport’ details… unfamiliar! 14:30:42 zhipeng_: Can you describe? 14:31:02 hi rmart04 14:31:14 :) 14:31:18 it was an idea floated by David Flander from the foundation 14:31:40 that for each openstack based public cloud operators, maybe starting from EU 14:32:31 we have a unified "OpenStack Open Passport" that is designed by the foundation MKT team, with coupon codes on it from each public cloud 14:32:55 Ah OK promotional, free credit essentially 14:33:01 for example it could writes "with this promo code you got 30 day free trial on OVH with xxx spec instances" 14:33:04 yep 14:33:19 because David see Azure and AWS are doing similar promotion 14:33:32 OK fair enough! Thanks 14:33:51 no problem 14:34:49 tobias, back to the goals 14:34:55 We will have challenges in finding common "credits" and get all MKTs on the boat in time for Sydney 14:35:10 I would agree 14:35:17 at least no guarantee on that 14:35:32 but we should put this on the list and keep it warm 14:35:44 agree :) 14:35:50 sounds interesting 14:36:16 even if we allow each company have different promo schemes, it will still takes time 14:36:20 really good idea....easy to do for one single company, but will need a lot of coordinations 14:36:27 for legal whatever stuff to be signed 14:36:30 Agree 14:36:41 rmart04: Care to add your name to the etherpad? :) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:36:58 ok. So, goals 14:37:23 My suggestion is that we all put goals-suggestion to following etherpad 14:37:26 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYDNEY_GOALS_publiccloud-wg 14:39:17 Cool! 14:44:23 seanhandley: Do you know if Nick got more info around the UK days ? 14:44:33 He didn't say 14:44:43 I'll make sure the Etherpad is updated when I find out 14:45:04 cool 14:45:27 I prefer Nordic since the Linux Open Source is right after in Prague 14:45:40 it is easier for us to schedule the trip 14:46:08 for sponsorship 14:46:24 OpenStack Day itseld already got sponsorship covered right ? 14:46:40 yes 14:46:47 tobberydberg: Nick's optimistic that it'll be fine to do the meetup at OpenStack Days UK and he'll confirm formally at the end of the week 14:46:53 A few open spots left I'm sure 14:46:54 So for our meetup maybe we just need extra support for the room renting, the drink and snacks 14:47:11 yes 14:47:43 What is best, the day before or after maybe? Independent of which event... 14:48:01 or on the second day afternoon 14:48:27 Maybe just like that yes 14:48:33 that might give us a good volume of people 14:48:38 I don't mind either way - I don't have any other pressing engagements before/after either event 14:48:52 First day at Nordics is "training day" ... could maybe be at that day as well 14:49:02 ah yes 14:49:12 training day would be ideal 14:49:13 I hope to attend both Nordics and UK 14:49:24 haha I could only do one lol 14:49:29 as well as Sydney...but thats not confirmed yet 14:49:54 Is linuxcon an alternative? 14:50:48 Potentially 14:50:53 I think OpenStack Day is a better choice 14:51:00 for the right audience 14:51:09 That's true 14:51:10 More related of course 14:51:33 and good for promotion from foundation's point of view 14:51:41 yes 14:52:20 Nordic is at trivoli! Its nice there! Apologies, slightly off topic, at the sumit session there was some talk of a place/repo/wiki? to keep track of bugs/security issues/knowledge sharing specifically related to public cloud providers, was there any movement on that? 14:53:51 The missing features list is probably the most related to that right now 14:54:01 OK Np 14:54:03 Du you have the link? 14:54:10 and it should go somewhere that isn't a spreadsheet long term 14:54:41 yes we will need a repo eventually 14:54:47 We have talked about tags etc to commits, will probably come as we start to get commits in there... 14:55:03 we could put scripts, tools, gaps analysis docs 14:55:07 all there in the repo 14:55:11 yes 14:55:29 when needed 14:55:42 who do we talk to about setting that up? 14:55:43 maybe we will need that to sydney? =) 14:55:51 Me =) 14:56:09 No, but I have got information about the drill 14:56:51 Just need to do a commit in a repo, and sending an email to the list basically to describe why we need it 14:57:14 ok cool :) 14:57:15 basically like this commit 14:57:20 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427819/1/reference/user-committee-repos.yaml 14:57:24 We're nearly out of time (3 mins left) 14:57:31 yes. 14:57:45 So, no "others" today either 14:58:05 Continue to write in the goals pad 14:58:11 and put +1 14:58:21 I'll write the summary 14:58:59 lets continue interesting discussions in #openstack-publiccloud ... we had a few last week 14:59:19 :) 14:59:25 +1 14:59:46 hi? 14:59:53 Thank you all for today! Put your name in the etherpad if you haven't done that =) 15:00:11 Cheers guys o/ 15:00:13 #endmeeting