07:03:31 <tobberydberg> #startmeeting publiccloud_sig
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07:03:55 <tobberydberg> #topic 1. Use of domain admin users / domain manager role - Invitation to Lean Coffee @ SCS (fkr)
07:04:28 <fkr> indeed
07:04:45 <fkr> we want to discuss the use of  domains and 'admin' role within it
07:04:55 <fkr> (basically what also came up here again: https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-May/033803.html)
07:05:23 <fkr> I already reached out to cleura and my proposal would be to have a joined call on June 5th 15:05 CEST
07:06:03 <fkr> since we would like to see wether we can help push this forward, but in order to we'd like to understand better how the CSPs currently work with this
07:06:12 <gtema> looking forward on that really. We have this in OTC and I would love upstream to have it as well
07:06:16 <fkr> gtema: I'd really like you to join there as well :)
07:06:17 <tobberydberg> I think that suits me fine ... will try to invite som more people internally
07:07:07 <fkr> are there others you two are aware of, that we should actively reach out to?
07:07:17 <tobberydberg> (FYI - I have a hard stop at 0730 UTC today, will have to drop of then)
07:07:39 <tobberydberg> I think a email to the mailing list with the invite would be good?
07:07:52 <gtema> yeah
07:08:13 <fkr> I will take care of that
07:09:01 <fkr> ok. this was what I wanted to achieve with the agenda point :)
07:09:08 <tobberydberg> This would actually also qualify as a Forum session in vancouver...but a little bit late now...
07:09:13 <tobberydberg> Thanks
07:09:29 <tobberydberg> #topic 2. Further things regarding Forum session Vancouver?
07:09:36 <gtema> since PTG is during same time we can easily put it there if necessary
07:09:42 <fkr> aye
07:09:50 <tobberydberg> True gtema
07:09:55 <fkr> and some PTG rooms can be used hybrid if I understood mailing list correct
07:10:02 <gtema> right
07:10:06 <fkr> (that way I could join - a bit selfish here ;)
07:10:15 <gtema> :)
07:10:19 <tobberydberg> +1
07:10:59 <tobberydberg> So, regarding forum sessions .... I've added the session proposed by gtema ... haven't seen if it got to the schedule or not
07:11:24 <gtema> great
07:11:43 <tobberydberg> So lets wait and see
07:12:04 <tobberydberg> Except for that, I think that qualifies to the next topic
07:13:08 <tobberydberg> #topic 3. Planning PTG sessions Vancouver
07:13:33 <tobberydberg> First on that topic is to schedule the session slots
07:14:44 <gtema> I find it so difficult to plan times now. Maybe be spontan?
07:14:49 <tobberydberg> Suggestion from my side, have two 2 hour blocks - wednesday and thursday afternoons
07:15:41 <fkr> (am silent, since i'll not be physically there ;)
07:15:45 <tobberydberg> I feel the same way, but I think it would be good with some plan, for others to plan as well
07:16:14 <gtema> agree on both (proposal)
07:17:09 <tobberydberg> the thought with two blocks is more to give option for people to join if they have a block at one slop
07:17:16 <fkr> +1
07:17:47 <tobberydberg> What topics to we want to cover?
07:18:23 <gtema> testing (certification)
07:18:38 <tobberydberg> Way forward with the standard properties? Or should that move into various teams meetings?
07:18:43 <gtema> surely continue discussion on properties agreements
07:19:03 <tobberydberg> testing of course, will be as a followup of the forum session
07:19:15 <gtema> with teams we can discuss what we want. But we perfectly know that what they agree on will not come immediately
07:19:24 <gtema> so we need to do some interim steps ourselves
07:19:29 <tobberydberg> Maybe have a BoF kind of thing if we have newcomers?
07:19:46 <tobberydberg> agreed
07:19:58 <fkr> +1 on the properties
07:20:11 <gtema> do we have newcomers (/me scratching my neck)
07:20:13 <gtema> ?
07:20:20 <fkr> gtema: yes
07:20:32 <gtema> ahso - ok
07:20:42 <fkr> gtema: tobberydberg and I have been in touch with them and they will join vancouver iirc
07:20:54 <gtema> awesome
07:21:07 <fkr> or we've been reached out to (is the better wording)
07:21:34 <tobberydberg> There were a few in Berlin as well that I haven't talked to since then, hopefully some of them join in vancouver as well
07:22:13 <tobberydberg> The domain admin thing would be another candidate indeed
07:22:42 <fkr> +1
07:23:20 <tobberydberg> For me, roles in general ... I personally don't really get my head around all of that
07:23:41 <gtema> you are right
07:24:23 <gtema> btw - over the weekend were discussing with noonedeadpunk in sdk room things around service catalog and abilities to hide out non public endpoints
07:24:41 <gtema> with also ability to override endpoints based on the domain used
07:25:00 <puck> Apologies for being late.
07:25:00 <gtema> this is not really sdk topic, but I see it also fitting the publiccloud domain
07:25:09 <tobberydberg> fair thing as well
07:25:12 <tobberydberg> welcome puck :-)
07:25:18 <fkr> hey puck
07:26:26 <puck> Just seeing a little bit on this topic, we're interested in using domains to provide our customers a better experience.
07:27:29 <tobberydberg> I said earlier that I need to drop out at 0730 UTC .... but I can make one of you chair if you would like to continue discussing
07:27:57 <tobberydberg> Will you be in vancouver puck? I might have asked you this previously as well
07:28:32 <fkr> I'll jump out now. talk to you later.
07:28:36 <puck> I don't think you have. Unfortunately it is highly unlikely I will be there (would love to visit Canada though, I'm Canadian, just never been there)
07:29:11 <fkr> puck: then you and me are the remotees for the PTG ;) - so I'm not alone. that is good.
07:29:30 <puck> aye
07:29:52 <tobberydberg> Ok :-) Yea, nice country and Vancouver super nice city
07:30:09 <puck> Seems that if two of you will be dropping out of the meeting, there isn't much point in me talking to myself. :)
07:30:16 <tobberydberg> puck and gtema ... will you continue the meeting or should I and it now?
07:30:31 <gtema> I would say end
07:30:36 <puck> Oh, two of us. I think we might as well end.
07:31:10 <tobberydberg> Ok, then I'll end the meeting now. We can continue discussion here even outside of meeting if needed
07:31:17 <gtema> great
07:31:21 <tobberydberg> Take care and thanks for today!
07:31:24 <tobberydberg> #endmeeting