21:01:41 <ttx> #startmeeting project
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21:01:47 <markmcclain> o/
21:01:58 <ttx> Mutnauq will go first as markmcclain has a conflict
21:02:03 <ttx> #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting
21:02:15 <ttx> After the general stuff though
21:02:17 <ttx> #topic General stuff
21:02:37 <ttx> FWIW I'm looking into improvements in the way we are tracking blueprints, so that we can avoid the whole "series goal" nonsense in the future.
21:02:49 <ttx> Should post about that this week. In the meantime we'll continue to care about it.
21:02:53 <russellb> +1
21:02:59 <ttx> sdague: around ?
21:02:59 <markmcclain> +1
21:03:28 <ttx> annegentle, jeblair/mordred: news from Docs/Infra teams ?
21:04:12 <annegentle> Here's my latest doc update
21:04:15 <annegentle> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2013-June/001963.html
21:04:23 <mordred> ttx: wel ...
21:04:39 <mordred> ttx: jeblair and zaro landed gearman-based zuul!
21:04:44 <annegentle> We're holding "office hours" Mondays at 16:00 UTC
21:04:47 <mordred> ttx: you should all be super excited and impressed
21:04:50 <mordred> also
21:04:54 <ttx> annegentle: I really like that idea
21:05:07 <annegentle> ttx: it went great yesterday
21:05:11 <mordred> per sdague: this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1192131  is killing us right now
21:05:12 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1192131 in nova "giant race in quantum - quantumclient key errors break creation of guests in nova" [Critical,In progress]
21:05:23 <ttx> mordred: yes, that's the one I wanted to raise
21:05:26 <mordred> great
21:05:32 <annegentle> One outcome is a new wiki page listing location of source of docs
21:05:34 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Builds
21:05:36 <mordred> but everyone shoudl rejoice about gearman-zuul
21:05:40 <annegentle> that's all I've
21:05:48 <ttx> sdague is not around, but I guess we can have markmcclain/russellb's opinion on that bug
21:05:56 <ttx> annegentle: thx!
21:06:17 <russellb> oh, so, i put up a patch that i sorta hoped might fix it
21:06:33 <ttx> russellb: so nothing needs to land on Quantum's side ?
21:06:41 <ttx> (or tempest ?)
21:06:45 <russellb> just checked, and it didn't fix it
21:06:47 <russellb> so nevermind.
21:07:39 <russellb> so, still not sure what the root cause is
21:07:50 <ttx> russellb/markmcclain: any chance you could gather and look into it in more detail ? Or delegate that to domain experts ?
21:08:19 <russellb> while chatting in #openstack-nova earlier, sdague said garyk was looking at it ... haven't followed up since though
21:08:20 <markmcclain> yeah… let me see if I can get the folks who work on the nova/quantum integration to dig
21:08:39 <russellb> markmcclain: cool
21:08:41 <ttx> cool
21:08:52 <ttx> #topic Quantum status
21:08:56 <ttx> markmcclain: hi!
21:09:00 <markmcclain> hi
21:09:03 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/havana-2
21:09:12 <ttx> Looks like you're reasonably on track...
21:09:19 <ttx> About remove-use-of-quantum, do you have good news to announce ?
21:09:48 <markmcclain> yeah.. we've finally got a new name: neutron
21:09:54 <ttx> yay!
21:10:01 <ttx> #info Quantum to be renamed to Neutron
21:10:07 <danwent> :)
21:10:13 <ttx> same number of letters, nice
21:10:16 <russellb> ohhhh snap
21:11:01 <ttx> markmcclain: do you have a transition plan ?
21:11:10 <jd__> sed ?
21:11:15 <ttx> Was discussing with jeblair earlier and the repo rename might be tricky
21:11:15 <markmc> Neutron, nice
21:11:26 <markmcclain> I've been chatting with mordred and the folks on infra
21:11:27 <ttx> given that it's part of the gate
21:11:44 <jeblair> ttx: we talked about it a bit at the infra meeting
21:11:51 <mordred> it's going to be fun
21:11:52 <ttx> jeblair: cool
21:12:19 <mordred> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33393/ is a stab at one of the first steps (almost certainly not done/complete)
21:12:26 <ttx> markmcclain/jeblair: any timeframe for the transition ?
21:12:51 <jeblair> short version: merge compatibility changes to projects, then force changes to devstack and devstack-gate during the repo rename downtime.
21:13:28 <ttx> Something we can complete by the end of the month, you think ?
21:13:40 <mordred> ttx: not sure on timeframe yet. depends on how long it takes to get the compat changes landed
21:13:47 <ttx> mordred: ack
21:14:01 <ttx> markmcclain: anything you wanted to raise ?
21:14:19 <markmcclain> the name change is the big one
21:14:26 <ttx> Questions on Quantum ?
21:14:31 <russellb> Neutron!
21:14:32 <ttx> err... Neutron ?
21:14:41 * mordred weeps for mutnauq
21:14:41 <russellb> markmcclain: i like it :)
21:15:04 * ttx weeps for Quadric
21:15:09 <markmcclain> russellb: it only took 11 tries to make the lawyers happy
21:15:18 <ttx> #topic Oslo status
21:15:21 <markmc> markmcclain, wow, 11
21:15:22 <ttx> markmc: hi!
21:15:35 <markmc> so two things before I forget
21:15:43 <ttx> Protip: next time, pick an imaginary name for your project please
21:15:45 <rdo> do we have a list of those that got turned down?
21:15:51 <markmc> first is looks like quantum can finally use oslo-1.2.0a2: https://review.openstack.org/33429
21:16:03 <markmc> thanks to the pbr fixes in pbr-0.5.15
21:16:04 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-2
21:16:28 <markmc> and I've proposed oslo.messaging repo for import to gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/33420
21:16:38 <ttx> Good progress overall...
21:16:42 <markmc> #info quantum can finally use oslo-1.2.0a2: https://review.openstack.org/33429
21:16:56 <markmc> #info oslo.messaging repo proposed for import to gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/33420
21:17:04 <ttx> markmc: Do you have a way forward for trusted-messaging now ?
21:17:20 <markmc> ttx, still blocked on the kds work in keystone
21:17:24 * markmc checks for updates
21:17:36 <markmc> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/key-distribution-server
21:17:41 <markmc> I know there's code
21:17:44 <markmc> but not yet proposed
21:17:57 <ttx> hmm, that one will definitely be a close one
21:18:04 <markmc> http://fedorapeople.org/cgit/simo/public_git/keystone.git/log/?h=shared-key-msg
21:18:11 <markmc> I can't see it making havana-2
21:18:16 <markmc> *maybe* havana-3
21:18:32 <ttx> markmc: maybe defer it then to h3
21:18:42 <markmc> there's a lot needs to land before this is usable with all projects in havana
21:18:54 <markmc> ttx, yeah, do you prefer to defer early and pull back into h2 if needs be?
21:18:59 <ttx> yes
21:19:01 <markmc> if so, I might defer a bunch of stuff
21:19:11 <markmc> but stuff that might well make it
21:19:24 <ttx> it's all about communicating reasonable expectations. People need to be pleasantly surprised from time to time
21:19:33 <markmc> ok
21:19:45 <ttx> Random remark: oslo-sqlalchemy-utils (Medium) depends on test-migrations (Low)
21:19:55 <markmc> ok
21:19:56 <ttx> On the bugs side you have https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1182842 which is rated "Critical"
21:19:57 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1182842 in oslo "Publish oslo.config docs" [Critical,Triaged]
21:20:02 <ttx> Anything going on on this one ? Should we reduce its importance ?
21:20:03 <markmc> I don't think it does depend on it, really
21:20:06 * markmc looks to fix
21:20:21 <markmc> reduced to High
21:20:24 <ttx> markmc: anything you wanted to raise ?
21:20:30 <markmc> not from me
21:20:31 <ttx> Questions about Oslo ?
21:20:50 <ttx> #topic Keystone status
21:20:52 <dolphm_> o/
21:20:55 <ttx> dolphm_: : o/
21:21:03 <ttx> You had an action in last week meeting: "dolphm to clarify progress on keystoneclient support for trusts and report on heat-trusts bp whiteboard"
21:21:37 <ttx> dolphm_: did you get further info from ayoung ?
21:21:46 <dolphm_> ttx: yes, let me find that convo
21:22:04 <shardy> ttx: I've offered to take a look at adding it
21:22:13 <shardy> not quite got to it yet
21:22:24 <ttx> dolphm_/shardy: just update the whiteboard at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/heat-trusts with updated info
21:22:30 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-2
21:22:39 <ttx> Slow progress...
21:23:02 <ttx> inherited-domain-roles is still "Not started" ?
21:23:18 <dolphm_> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+spec/delegation-impersonation-support
21:23:22 <dolphm_> shardy: assigned ^
21:23:39 <ttx> I saw discussion about it but not sure it will make h2 at this point
21:23:39 <dolphm_> ttx: inherited domain roles impl is not started, but we've been having a *lot* of discussion around the api
21:23:48 <ttx> ok
21:23:48 <dolphm_> it's very much in progress, just not on the python side yet
21:23:52 <ttx> Also what's the status of delegated-auth-via-oauth ?
21:24:03 <dolphm_> just went into code review this week
21:24:03 <ttx> Missed h1 and looks stuck
21:24:08 <ttx> oh, ok
21:24:19 <ttx> we should see progress "soon" then
21:24:22 <ttx> dolphm: Anything more about Keystone ?
21:24:24 <shardy> dolphm_: thanks, I've updated the heat-trusts whiteboard
21:24:37 <dolphm_> shardy: thank you for jumping in!
21:24:53 <ttx> Questions anyone ?
21:24:54 <shardy> dolphm_: np, figured I'd help out since we need it! :)
21:25:17 <ttx> #topic Ceilometer status
21:25:21 <ttx> jd__: hey
21:25:25 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-2
21:25:43 <ttx> I think you are on track...
21:25:56 <jd__> so far I think so too, we're just lacking some code reviews lately
21:25:57 <ttx> jd__: Was work started on one-meter-per-plugin and alarm-actioner ?
21:26:27 <jd__> ttx: nop, though I'm not worried about these
21:26:41 <ttx> ok... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/havana/+setgoals has two blueprints proposed
21:26:54 <ttx> Looking at bugs, I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1189848 ... was that one finally solved for you ?
21:26:55 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1189848 in ceilometer "pbr >= 0.5.12 breaks ceilometer tests" [Critical,In progress]
21:27:14 <jd__> yes we're good fortunately now
21:27:28 <ttx> Should that bug be marked invalid / FixCommitted ?
21:27:39 <jd__> just set fix committed
21:27:41 <jd__> I just set fix committed
21:27:45 <ttx> cool
21:27:48 <ttx> jd__: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:27:56 <jd__> bananas
21:28:01 <jd__> that's all
21:28:03 <ttx> Questions on Ceilometer ?
21:28:22 <ttx> #topic Swift status
21:28:25 <notmyname> hi
21:28:26 <ttx> notmyname: o/
21:28:31 <ttx> I saw your 1.9.0 plans, with the June 27th target release date
21:28:38 <notmyname> yup
21:28:40 <ttx> When do you want to freeze for QA, i.e. when should I cut milestone-proposed ?
21:28:53 <ttx> sometimes near the end of this week ?
21:29:00 <notmyname> friday probably
21:29:12 <ttx> ok, well just let keep me posted
21:29:20 <notmyname> really, we're waiting on a few key patches rather than the date
21:29:22 <ttx> swift/__init__.py still has _version = Version('1.8.1', False) atm.
21:29:31 <ttx> Want me to propose a ('1.9.0', False) version bump ?
21:29:32 <notmyname> correct. I'll update that before the QA cut
21:29:35 <ttx> ok
21:29:49 <ttx> notmyname: anything else you wanted to raise ?
21:30:08 <notmyname> we just added a new core team member yesterday: Peter Portante from Red Hat
21:30:15 <notmyname> that's all I have
21:30:24 <ttx> Questions about Swift ?
21:30:59 <ttx> #topic Glance status
21:31:01 <mordred> notmyname: anything specific you want for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28892/
21:31:12 <ttx> #undo
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21:31:29 <mordred> notmyname: (swift and glance are the last holdouts - just wanted to make sure if I needed to do something it was on my radar)
21:31:36 <notmyname> mordred: we're having some issues with pbr right now. I'll talk to you tomorrow about it
21:31:45 <notmyname> mordred: we will not merge that for 1.9.0
21:31:52 <mordred> notmyname: ok
21:32:02 <ttx> #topic Glance status
21:32:08 <ttx> markwash: o/
21:32:13 <markwash> hello!
21:32:16 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-2
21:32:20 * markwash just ran ttx.sh :-/
21:32:26 <ttx> Slow progress overall...
21:32:42 <ttx> markwash: was wondering if membership-policy should be considered complete with the merge of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29296/
21:32:52 <markwash> ttx yes
21:32:57 <ttx> ok will do
21:33:04 <ttx> iccha has two high-prio blueprints (api-v2-property-protection, upload-download-workflow) and none of those appears to be started...
21:33:28 <markwash> upload-download-workflow has been split up
21:33:32 <markwash> and I just need to remove it
21:33:40 <markwash> which is not to say we don't have a bandwidth problem at this point
21:33:58 <markwash> but i have some very specific work commitments from a lot of the contributors I am tracking
21:34:19 <ttx> ok
21:34:31 <ttx> Same for alex-meade and async-glance-workers, not started
21:34:33 <markwash> I can start taking a guess at what will pop off of havana at this point
21:34:46 <markwash> ttx I'm actually the blocker on that bp
21:35:09 <markwash> and it is in progress
21:35:23 <ttx> ok, will mark it started then
21:35:30 <ttx> Note that you have two DB blueprints proposed at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/havana/+setgoals
21:35:52 <ttx> On the critical bugs side, you have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1155389
21:35:53 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1155389 in swift "Multi-tenant swift store image sharing doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress]
21:35:59 <ttx> Do you still need Swift input there ?
21:36:13 <markwash> ttx: yes, I saw some patches proposed that would fix things
21:36:30 <markwash> basically what is needed there is for swift acls to come in line with their api documentation
21:37:19 <ttx> ok, wel we'll see if they make 1.9.0
21:37:27 <ttx> markwash: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:37:36 <markwash> not at this time, thank you
21:37:37 <ttx> Questions on Glance ?
21:38:04 <ttx> #topic Cinder status
21:38:09 <ttx> jgriffith: hola!
21:38:13 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-2
21:38:15 <jgriffith> hey ya
21:38:33 <jgriffith> making progress :)
21:38:38 <ttx> Good progress overall, nothing critical on the list
21:38:47 <jgriffith> Nope, all med's and lows
21:38:47 <ttx> You should encourage people to submit early :)
21:38:51 <jgriffith> except bugs
21:38:57 <jgriffith> trying :)
21:39:05 <ttx> you have 3 blueprints proposed @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/havana/+setgoals
21:39:09 <jgriffith> I've already threatened a Cinder dealine one week prior
21:39:27 <jgriffith> aye
21:39:43 <jgriffith> I need to start checking those on more regular basis (people keep sneaking things in)
21:39:51 <ttx> (fwiw what i have in mind for bluepritns would get us rid of having to check for those "proposed" things)
21:39:58 <markwash> ttx +1
21:40:01 <jgriffith> yay!
21:40:09 <jgriffith> So the netapp one is under review, that's easy
21:40:20 <jgriffith> The second and third I have to talk to folks
21:40:26 <ttx> ack
21:40:28 <jgriffith> Not sure about those, and they seem big at this point
21:40:29 <ttx> jgriffith: anything on your mind ?
21:40:50 <jgriffith> I'm good
21:40:52 <ttx> Questions on Cinder ?
21:41:15 <ttx> #topic Nova status
21:41:20 <ttx> russellb: hey
21:41:25 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-2
21:41:41 <ttx> Progress is not looking too bad, given the total number of blueprints...
21:41:42 <russellb> hi
21:41:48 <russellb> yeah, it's still all over the place
21:41:56 <russellb> but i think we'll have a good amount of stuff delivered for havana-2
21:41:56 <ttx> Lots of stuff in review already though
21:41:59 <russellb> yeah
21:42:39 <ttx> Random remark: db-api-tests-on-all-backends (High) depends on db-sync-models-with-migrations (Medium)
21:42:39 <russellb> havana-3 is very very light compared to this
21:43:06 <ttx> that will give time to plug feature gaps
21:43:08 <russellb> will fix
21:43:14 <ttx> russellb: anything else you wanted to mention ?
21:43:24 <russellb> nope, don't think so, thanks
21:43:27 <ttx> Any question on Nova ?
21:43:38 <russellb> review all the things
21:43:50 <ttx> #topic Heat status
21:43:57 <ttx> shardy: o/
21:44:00 <shardy> hi!
21:44:05 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-2
21:44:17 <ttx> Looks like you're a bit behind...
21:44:28 <ttx> In particular there are 4 "high" prio blueprints apparently not started yet ?
21:44:35 <ttx> (json-parameters, resource-properties-schema, resource-template, stack-metadata)
21:44:38 <shardy> I need to sync up with a few people at our meeting tomorrow, I think some of those at least are actually started
21:44:58 <ttx> ok
21:45:10 <shardy> we have a much lighter h3, so I'll start deferring those which are not
21:45:17 <ttx> Random remark: native-in-instance-tools should have a priority
21:45:25 <shardy> ok, will fix
21:45:28 <ttx> Looking at critical bugs I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1192125
21:45:30 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1192125 in heat "Autoscaling doesn't detect failed instance creation" [High,Triaged]
21:45:53 <ttx> which is now "High" :)
21:45:59 <shardy> Yep, I found that today, reduced to high as it was pointed out we've always done it..
21:46:20 <ttx> ok then :)
21:46:20 <shardy> I initally thought it was a regression caused by recent changes
21:46:34 <ttx> shardy: anything else you want to raise ?
21:46:47 <shardy> no don't think so, thanks!
21:47:03 <ttx> Questions about Heat ?
21:47:33 <ttx> #topic Horizon status
21:47:38 <ttx> gabrielhurley: o/
21:47:39 <gabrielhurley> \o
21:47:42 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-2
21:47:56 <ttx> Looks on track, though it could use more final landings
21:48:05 <ttx> Should "hacking" be considered complete with the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32217/ ?
21:48:06 <gabrielhurley> gonna admit, I'm not as up-to-date on where things are as usual... the last two weeks have been hectic for me.
21:48:17 <gabrielhurley> I need to check in with everyone at the Horizon meeting after this
21:48:26 <ttx> ok
21:48:39 <gabrielhurley> Hacking has 3 main components, I'd have to make sure all three were taken care of
21:48:50 <ttx> Could you check for me the status of the 3 "high" prio not started yet: realtime-spec, rpc-listener, rbac
21:49:00 <gabrielhurley> yeah. two of those are me.
21:49:01 <gabrielhurley> :-/
21:49:22 <ttx> You also have one "proposed" @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/havana/+setgoals
21:49:25 <gabrielhurley> status is they're not started but I still think they're doable
21:49:36 <gabrielhurley> hmmm... interesting
21:49:39 <gabrielhurley> hadn't noticed that one
21:49:51 <ttx> we should have abetter view on h2 by next week
21:49:55 <ttx> gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:50:02 <gabrielhurley> don't see any code proposed so probably not a target for H, but will follow up with the author
21:50:16 <gabrielhurley> not really, I have some catching up to do. next week things will be eveident again.
21:50:24 <ttx> Questions on Horizon ?
21:50:53 <ttx> #topic Incubated projects
21:51:11 <ttx> I know devananda is not around, is hub_cap here ?
21:51:30 <hub_cap> heyo
21:51:34 <ttx> Ironic stats is "in the middle of implementing several large BP's"
21:51:47 <hub_cap> im here in spirit mostly, i have no electricity in my house :o
21:51:53 <ttx> hub_cap: is the trove rename completed ?
21:51:59 <hub_cap> the rename is mostly done
21:52:13 <hub_cap> we are still dealing w/ the module rename tho, the scripts / tooling is updated
21:52:23 * ttx looks into jenkins jobs
21:52:25 <hub_cap> ill finish the trove module rename in the next 24~hrs
21:52:43 <hub_cap> also ttx the BPs didnt update like we chatted about yest but we can take that offline
21:52:58 <hub_cap> we are also workig on clustering api (multimaster, master/slave)
21:53:27 <ttx> jenkins jobs look up to date to me
21:53:37 <ttx> BPs updating ?
21:53:45 <ttx> (we have time, we can talk about it now)
21:54:01 <hub_cap> example, clikc the "implements blueprint" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33412/
21:54:47 <ttx> is there a BP named that way ? Couldn't find it
21:55:17 * hub_cap smacks his head
21:55:21 <ttx> hehe
21:55:31 <hub_cap> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-troveclient/+spec/reddwarf-trove-rename
21:55:34 <hub_cap> its in teh client
21:55:47 <hub_cap> we need to do something to that to make up for it?
21:55:49 <ttx> see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=volume-usage
21:55:59 <ttx> hmm
21:56:24 <ttx> You can fix the commit message if you have a blueprint to point it to
21:56:29 <ttx> or create the missing blueprint
21:56:45 <ttx> I for one would like to know when that's completed :)
21:56:55 <jgriffith> hub_cap: lame idea maybe, but to start why not just use cinderclient and get the volume
21:57:00 <jgriffith> hub_cap: then you'll have everything
21:57:37 <ttx> jgriffith: highlighting on "volume", i see :)
21:57:51 <hub_cap> HA
21:58:00 <jgriffith> :)
21:58:06 <ttx> hub_cap: anything else ?
21:58:11 <ttx> questions ?
21:58:22 <hub_cap> nope im good
21:58:35 <ttx> cool then,
21:58:45 <ttx> #endmeeting