21:01:59 <ttx> #startmeeting project
21:02:00 <russellb> hey
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21:02:22 <ttx> We should be cutting milestone-proposed branches for havana-1 at the end of the day
21:02:30 <ttx> Let's see how close we are and refine h1-critical bug lists, if any.
21:02:36 <ttx> #topic General stuff
21:02:44 <ttx> #info The "I" release naming poll started today
21:02:50 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/i-release-naming
21:02:58 <ttx> annegentle, jeblair/mordred, sdague/davidkranz: news from Docs/Infra/QA teams ?
21:03:04 * annegentle thinks
21:03:19 <annegentle> I've been sending to the mailing list as needed, so those are my updates.
21:03:29 <jeblair> nak, thanks
21:03:44 <sdague> ttx: nothing earth shattering
21:04:07 <ttx> ok then
21:04:08 <ttx> #topic Oslo status
21:04:12 <ttx> markmc: hi!
21:04:15 <markmc> hey
21:04:16 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-1
21:04:25 <markmc> so, I've bumped the two unfinished bps to havana-2
21:04:34 <markmc> they're big changes and haven't had reviews
21:04:37 <markmc> sad face
21:04:50 <markmc> apart from that, the big issue is this oslo.config thing
21:05:02 <ttx> could you summarize for people not following at home ?
21:05:06 <markmc> quantum requires latest oslo.config, but we don't have the infrastructure in place to use
21:05:16 <markmc> we don't publish dev versions of oslo.config to pypi
21:05:32 <markmc> so we attempt to put URLs in pip-requires to express the dependency
21:05:40 <markmc> but, right now, we're using the >= information
21:05:49 <markmc> so if you have old oslo.config installed, pip doesn't upgrade
21:05:56 <markmc> to fix that, we need to get a change into pbr
21:06:04 <markmc> we may also add trunk oslo.config to devstack
21:06:18 <markmc> we may also consider publishing dev versions of oslo.config to our pypi mirror
21:06:23 <markmc> and not use urls in pip-requires
21:06:25 <markmc> but ...
21:06:38 <markmc> that's too many ifs, buts and maybes for havana-1
21:06:39 <markmc> so
21:06:50 <ttx> You suggested reverting the quantum bump for h1 while we sort it out
21:06:53 <markmc> https://review.openstack.org/30794 reverts quantum's dep on oslo.config 1.2.0
21:07:04 <ttx> markmcclain1: would that fly with you ?
21:07:46 <markmcclain1> there's a bit of collateral damage if we revert only that commit
21:08:09 <ttx> markmc: see comment just posted on your patch
21:08:44 <markmc> heh
21:08:50 <markmc> kyle asks me to revert commit b8b2c4e
21:08:56 <markmc> the commit message says
21:09:03 <markmc> "This reverts commit b8b2c4e ..."
21:09:06 * markmc will reply :)
21:09:18 <markmc> markmcclain1, what collateral damage exactly?
21:09:21 * ttx thinks reverting is probably the best for H1, if that works for the other markmc
21:09:36 <markmc> well, the alternative is quantum is broken in h-1
21:10:32 <ttx> markmc: alternatively we could revert it on milestone-proposed only.
21:10:40 <markmc> that's true
21:10:44 <markmc> I'm fine with that
21:10:47 <markmc> well
21:10:52 <markmc> trunk shouldn't be broken
21:10:52 <markmcclain1> I'd go along with that
21:11:02 <ttx> markmc: depends if fixing the mess is easier with the patch in or with the patch out.
21:11:02 <markmc> we should have reverted it the day we found about this, really
21:11:12 <markmc> the revert is pretty straightforward
21:11:32 <markmc> and really does nothing beneficial to users
21:11:34 <ttx> markmc: if master is broken with it, then i'd rather revert there.
21:11:58 <markmc> ttx, yes, it's broken on master
21:12:02 <ttx> markmcclain1: what collateral damage ?
21:13:33 <ttx> hmm, don't want to spend the whole meeting on that issue, so let's move on and revisit when it's quantum time
21:13:45 <ttx> markmc: I'll cut the MP branch "at the end of the day" (tomorrow morning), unless you raise a big red flag
21:14:05 <ttx> markmc: anything else you wanted to raise ?
21:14:15 <markmc> nah, that's it
21:14:21 <ttx> Questions about Oslo ?
21:14:35 <ttx> (that should give markmcclain1 a bit of time to consider the option)
21:14:38 <markmcclain1> other commits in the pipeline
21:14:38 <markmcclain1> *proposals
21:14:38 <markmcclain1> might make sense to apply this just before cutting H1 so we won't require any last minute disruptions
21:14:38 <markmcclain1> I can build a list and we can coordinate
21:15:12 <ttx> markmcclain1: before cutting the branch, you mean.
21:15:24 <ttx> let's come back to it during the quantum topic
21:15:29 <ttx> #topic Keystone status
21:15:32 <dolphm> o/
21:15:34 <ttx> dolphm: o/
21:15:38 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-1
21:16:08 <ttx> dolphm: will cut the MP branch at the end of the day, unless you tell me not to
21:16:08 <markmcclain1> ttx: yep
21:16:24 <dolphm> ready, afaik
21:16:25 <ttx> dolphm: All those deferrals end up building a rather large H2 milestone :)
21:16:35 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-2
21:16:50 <dolphm> yeah, some have good progress against them already
21:16:58 <ttx> index-token-expiry and store-quota-data don't have an assignee, any idea who will work on that ?
21:17:22 <dolphm> store-quota-data - no
21:17:35 <dolphm> index-token-expiry should actually have an assignee, i'll fix that (it's in progress)
21:17:40 <ttx> ok, we'll refine next week
21:17:42 <ttx> dolphm: Anything more about Keystone ?
21:17:53 <ttx> oh. bug
21:18:02 <dolphm> we're excited about bp rpc-api-review :)
21:18:08 <dolphm> (in oslo)
21:18:17 <dolphm> and piling up bp's behind it :P
21:18:23 <dolphm> that's all!
21:18:24 <ttx> Questions anyone ?
21:18:49 <ttx> #topic Ceilometer status
21:18:52 <ttx> jd__: hey
21:18:59 <jd__> o/
21:18:59 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-1
21:19:12 <ttx> hbase-metadata-query: looks almost there, any chance you can get it in before the end of the day ?
21:19:20 <jd__> I hoped so :(
21:19:34 <ttx> jd__: how much more time do you need ?
21:19:37 <jd__> I already asked for reviews,  it only requires one pair of eyes
21:19:48 <jd__> ttx: I guess 24h top
21:19:56 <jd__> shouldn't be long at this stage
21:20:30 <ttx> I'd like to cut it before tomorrow afternoon, european time
21:20:46 <jd__> ttx: fair enough, I'll harass some people
21:20:47 <ttx> I'll ping you tomorrow moening and we'll see how far we are
21:20:52 <jd__> ack
21:21:21 <ttx> #info Ceilometer MP cut delayed to tomorrow
21:21:32 <ttx> jd__: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:21:36 <jd__> nop
21:21:45 <ttx> Questions on Ceilometer ?
21:22:15 <ttx> #topic Swift status
21:22:17 <notmyname> o/
21:22:19 <ttx> notmyname: o/
21:22:22 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.1
21:22:31 <ttx> notmyname: I heard you were getting closer... quick update on 1.8.1 progress ?
21:23:00 <notmyname> we've got a swift meeting tomorrow. I want to cut a new release after the global clusters patches land. we'll be talking about that at the meeting tomorrow
21:23:23 <notmyname> otherwise, good progress on other fronts (eg LFS and threadpools and API discussions)
21:23:52 <ttx> notmyname: Sounds good. Anything else you wanted to raise ?
21:24:13 <notmyname> nothing comes to mind
21:24:16 <ttx> Questions about Swift ?
21:24:45 <ttx> #topic Glance status
21:24:52 <ttx> markwash: o/
21:24:56 <markwash> ahoy
21:24:57 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-1
21:25:17 <ttx> All set from blueprints perspective, will cut branch at the end of the day
21:25:30 <ttx> On the bugs side, anything critical that you'd like backported to the milestone-proposed branch if it doesn't make it to master today ?
21:25:36 <markwash> good good
21:25:38 <ttx> Or should I just push back to havana-2 the stuff that is still open by EOD ?
21:25:48 <markwash> just push back
21:26:10 <ttx> OK. Looks like you're also set for a busy H2 milestone :)
21:26:18 <ttx> markwash: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:26:39 <markwash> Just thanks for the great glance team meetings we've been having, all the eager participants
21:26:41 <markwash> that's it from me
21:27:12 <ttx> markwash: now I need to check the logs to detect if it's ironic or not
21:27:16 <ttx> Questions on Glance ?
21:27:28 <markwash> ttx: lol! not ironic :-)
21:27:59 <ttx> some people will soon realize picking common adjectives for their project name results in undesired highlights.
21:28:07 <ttx> #topic Quantum status
21:28:17 <ttx> markmcclain: hi again!
21:28:24 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/havana-1
21:28:49 <markmcclain1> hi
21:28:56 <ttx> markmcclain1: let's see the blueprints you have left
21:29:13 <ttx> cisco-plugin-n1k-support; couldn't find review
21:29:37 <ttx> defer ?
21:29:48 <markmcclain1> yeah.. sorry missed that one when cleaning
21:29:52 <ttx> l3-ext-gw-modes: looks relatively close with reviews proposed @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/quantum+branch:master+topic:bp/l3-ext-gw-modes,n,z
21:30:14 <markmcclain1> yeah.. I expect it to merge
21:30:21 <ttx> multi-vendor-support-for-lbaas-step0: looks only partially implemented.... defer ?
21:30:40 <markmcclain1> there are two versions of it
21:31:03 <ttx> markmcclain1: can still make it today/early tomorrow ?
21:31:09 <markmcclain1> so not yet.. the smaller one may merge
21:31:17 <ttx> ok
21:31:19 <ttx> modular-l2: looks relatively close, could make it with a boost in reviews at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20105/
21:31:42 <markmcclain1> yeah.. we've got two reviewers to look at it
21:31:44 <ttx> vxlan-linuxbridge: abandoned review apparently ?
21:32:25 <markmcclain1> yeah.. sorry missed both of the good progress ones
21:32:40 <ttx> nvp-test-coverage: looks almost there at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29822/
21:33:05 <ttx> markmcclain1: how do you want to proceed ? Wait for you to get up tomorrow before I cut ?
21:33:16 <ttx> (unless it's all set when I get up ?)
21:33:34 <markmcclain1> I'm actually +1 of you right now
21:33:46 <markmcclain1> we can coordinate in the morning
21:33:50 <ttx> ok
21:34:00 <ttx> #info Quantum cut delayed tomorrow morning
21:34:11 <ttx> Looking at bugs now... anything critical in that list or can I just defer all to H2 if they don't make it today ?
21:34:24 <ttx> (or tomorrow morning)
21:34:34 <markmcclain1> nothing critical that we're waiting on
21:34:47 <markmc> I've marked the oslo.config thing as critical and put it on the milestone :)
21:35:09 * markmcclain1 reloads
21:35:50 <markmcclain1> after the meeting I'll see if we can markmc's patch in without disrupting too much
21:35:58 <markmcclain1> otherwise we can merge it last
21:36:03 <markmcclain1> before the cut
21:36:09 <ttx> markmcclain1: worst case scenario we'll coordinate it tomorrow morning
21:36:15 <markmc> ah, you're worried about merge conflicts?
21:36:17 <ttx> some benefits in being in the same TZ
21:36:26 <markmc> as opposed to patches in the pipeline which require latest oslo.config ?
21:36:52 <markmcclain1> markmc: a little of both
21:36:52 <markmc> (e.g. the queued "common DB" patch for quantum requires latest oslo.config)
21:37:21 <ttx> markmc: "coordinate toomorrow if not merged today" works for you ?
21:37:27 <markmc> sure
21:37:30 <ttx> markmcclain: anything you wanted to raise ?
21:37:43 <markmcclain1> I don't have anything else
21:37:53 <ttx> Questions on Quantum ?
21:38:15 <ttx> #topic Cinder status
21:38:19 <thingee> o/
21:38:22 <ttx> thingee: o/
21:38:25 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-1
21:38:36 <ttx> pass-ratelimit-info-to-nova probably needs a bit more discussion, I propose we defer it to h2
21:38:47 <thingee> yes, there's more discussion required than we thought
21:38:54 <ttx> ok, pushing
21:39:09 <ttx> On the bugs side I'll assume none of them is milestone-critical and push them to H2 if they don't make it today.
21:39:28 <ttx> let me know if you see a problem with that
21:39:38 <thingee> yes, three of them I can get to land today. the rest are non-critical or driver related. I'll try to get a hold of maintainers today
21:40:17 <ttx> thingee: worst case scenario we'll just backport the fix to milestone-proposed after the branch cut
21:40:29 <thingee> ttx: sounds good
21:40:33 <ttx> thingee: anything else you wanted to mention ?
21:40:37 <thingee> nope
21:40:40 <thingee> oh
21:40:40 <ttx> Questions on Cinder ?
21:40:53 <ttx> thingee: go ahead
21:40:57 <thingee> we have a bug fix day on thursday...that's when most I'm guessing were expect to get stuff done.
21:41:14 <ttx> cool, thanks for the mention
21:41:33 <thingee> that's all
21:41:39 <ttx> #topic Nova status
21:41:46 <ttx> russellb: hey
21:41:50 <russellb> hey
21:41:57 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-1
21:42:07 <ttx> Oooh.
21:42:21 <russellb> heh
21:42:29 <russellb> beginning of this meeting i clean up a bit, heh
21:42:30 <ttx> sometimes I wonder why I prepare the meeting in the morning when the carpet is removed under me at meeting time
21:42:36 <russellb> sorry..
21:42:48 <russellb> i pushed out all blueprints not done because they aren't that close, and none are critical
21:42:54 <russellb> bug wise, i have one i'd like to block on
21:42:58 <russellb> the rest can be punted if they don't make it
21:43:15 <ttx> if you think a few more hours can get a few more over the edge, i'm fine with waiting a bit
21:43:34 <russellb> ok, yeah, we need time to make sure a major feature isn't totally busted
21:43:40 <ttx> use-oslo-services is marked implemented but seems to have a few reviews in progress:
21:43:45 <ttx> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30366/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30367/
21:44:07 <ttx> not really sure what to think of it
21:44:13 <russellb> huh
21:44:20 <russellb> IMO, it's done, this is sort of ... separate
21:44:23 <russellb> should update this to a new blueprint
21:44:26 <russellb> i'll follow up with belliot
21:44:30 <ttx> ok
21:44:48 <ttx> which one is the H1-critical bug ?
21:44:56 <ttx> bug 1181991 ?
21:44:57 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1181991 in nova "config drive is broken by one commit" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181991
21:45:03 <russellb> that one
21:45:16 <russellb> just saw it ...
21:45:20 <ttx> ok, will push back the others tomorrow moening and keep that one on th backport list
21:45:28 <russellb> that works for me
21:45:56 <ttx> russellb: Unless you raise a flag, I'll just cut the MP branch for H1 at the end of the day.
21:46:08 <ttx> (i.e. my tomorrow morning)
21:46:11 <russellb> ttx: sounds good, and i'll chase this bug and can get it backported
21:46:12 * russellb nods
21:46:20 <ttx> russellb: anything else you wanted to mention ?
21:46:32 <russellb> nope, not about nova specifically ...
21:46:43 <russellb> i had a thing today where i wanted to know how well we were keeping up with review requests
21:46:50 <russellb> i started a ML thread, and ended up scripting the data I wanted
21:47:04 <russellb> so I can tell you the average wait time for waiting reviews in a project
21:47:12 <russellb> may be useful to others in the meeting
21:47:18 <ttx> cool
21:47:21 <russellb> see ML.
21:47:26 <ttx> Any question on Nova ?
21:48:12 <ttx> #topic Heat status
21:48:15 <ttx> shardy: o/
21:48:17 <shardy> o/
21:48:27 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-1
21:48:39 <ttx> All set I see
21:48:53 <ttx> deferred concurrent-resource-scheduling ?
21:48:55 <shardy> yup I think so
21:49:16 <ttx> shardy: you OK with me cutting the milestone-proposed branch at the end of the day ?
21:49:21 <shardy> yep, few more patches pending
21:49:32 <shardy> yes, sounds good
21:49:58 <ttx> shardy: anything else you want to raise ?
21:50:06 <shardy> not atm, no
21:50:17 <ttx> Questions about Heat ?
21:51:08 <ttx> #topic Horizon status
21:51:11 <ttx> gabrielhurley: o/
21:51:15 <gabrielhurley> \o
21:51:21 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-1
21:51:25 <gabrielhurley> all green
21:51:39 <ttx> hehe, going last also has its benefits
21:51:50 <gabrielhurley> actually i had fixed them all before 2 PM today
21:51:55 <gabrielhurley> rare, I know
21:52:00 <ttx> OK, will cut branch in ~10 hours unless you tell me not to.
21:52:04 <gabrielhurley> sounds good to me
21:52:17 <ttx> gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:52:26 <gabrielhurley> I need to pare down the H2 blueprints list, but we'll look at that next week
21:52:40 <gabrielhurley> otherwise no
21:52:46 <ttx> yes, I had a few comments about that, but it's been a long day and it can wait next week
21:53:37 <ttx> Overall H2 plans are a bit optimistic, but I'm not sure how to fix that
21:53:47 <ttx> Questions on Horizon ?
21:54:20 <gabrielhurley> I'll clean it up
21:54:28 <ttx> #topic Incubated projects
21:54:34 <ttx> hub_cap, devananda: around?
21:54:44 <devananda> ttx: here
21:54:52 <hub_cap> o7
21:54:57 <devananda> ironic won't have anything ready for h1
21:54:58 <ttx> questions, progress reports?
21:55:06 <devananda> still getting everything off the ground
21:55:12 <hub_cap> https://launchpad.net/reddwarf/+milestone/havana-1
21:55:17 <ttx> on reddwarf side we'd like to complete renaming before doing h1
21:55:28 <hub_cap> makes sense to me
21:55:33 <hub_cap> still havent heard anything back
21:55:40 <hub_cap> but we picked a top 3 to give to the lawyergods
21:55:47 <hub_cap> 1) cask, 2) trove, 3) cellar
21:56:13 <ttx> hub_cap: /me prays
21:56:20 <hub_cap> heh ya
21:56:29 <ttx> We haven'"t been very lucky with the naming gods recently
21:56:47 <hub_cap> ya its hard... should call marty mcfly to help w it
21:57:16 <ttx> Any question ?
21:57:30 <hub_cap> nosah. thx ttx
21:57:40 <hub_cap> i will have some i suspect after i get a realboy name
21:57:56 <ttx> well, you know where to find me
21:58:05 <adam_g> While there's time, I'd like to get a note added to the minutes re: stable/grizzly branch freeze this week, if possible
21:58:07 <hub_cap> heart ttx
21:58:49 <ttx> adam_g: sure! Note that for greater exposure it's good to mention those in the "general stuff" topic at start of meeting
21:59:01 <ttx> since by now everyone is gone.
21:59:06 <adam_g> We're planning on freezing stable/grizzly this Fri May 30th  in preparation for 2013.1.2 to be released Fri June 6th.  current proposed patches can be found at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:stable/grizzly,n,z
21:59:21 <adam_g> ttx, ack, realize that now :)
21:59:34 <ttx> adam_g: #info stable/grizzly freeze this Fri May 30th in preparation for 2013.1.2  to be released Fri June 6th
21:59:37 <ttx> arrh
21:59:44 <ttx> #info stable/grizzly freeze this Fri May 30th in preparation for 2013.1.2  to be released Fri June 6th
22:00:03 <ttx> adam_g: you should fire a -dev email to be sure
22:00:14 <adam_g> ttx, for sure. drafting now. thanks
22:00:16 <ttx> ok, that ends up our meeting, time for horizon folks
22:00:20 <ttx> #endmeeting