21:02:16 <ttx> #startmeeting project
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21:02:23 <ttx> #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting
21:02:34 <ttx> At the end of the day next Tuesday we will cut the havana-1 milestone-proposed branches
21:02:44 <ttx> That leaves one week to merge stuff in havana-1, so we'll look into plans and postpone what we already know won't make it
21:02:51 <ttx> #topic General stuff
21:03:02 <ttx> I don't have anything cross-project to report
21:03:11 <ttx> annegentle, jeblair/mordred, sdague/davidkranz: news from Docs/Infra/QA teams ?
21:03:23 <ttx> annegentle: I guess that doc rename also applies here
21:03:30 <annegentle> ttx: was just going to mention.
21:03:55 <ttx> please do
21:04:01 <annegentle> all, look for "API Specifications" being renamed to "API Reference" as the naming is more apt for cross-project use
21:04:18 <annegentle> They're currently called "Developer Guides" which is confusing.
21:04:42 <jeblair> ttx: nak
21:04:48 <annegentle> Doc team has some automation scripts now for bringing in all config info automatically (did I report that last week?)
21:05:02 <annegentle> We're also hiring a contractor this summer to help with install guide madness.
21:05:03 <ttx> (maybe?)
21:05:12 <annegentle> Cisco is hiring the contractor.
21:05:23 <ttx> Thanks, Cisco.
21:05:33 <annegentle> that's all I've
21:05:47 <ttx> anything else before we go project-specific ?
21:06:19 <sdague> ttx: nothing notable on QA
21:06:19 <ttx> #topic Oslo status
21:06:27 <ttx> markmc: hi!
21:06:29 <ttx> sdague: ok
21:06:31 <markmc> yo
21:06:36 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-1
21:06:39 <markmc> two havana-1 bps left
21:06:45 <ttx> Looks like you're in pretty good shape, if I am to trust those delivery statuses
21:06:49 <markmc> delayed-messaging is coming along, may make it
21:07:01 <markmc> common-apiclient is a big patch, but the author is splitting it up
21:07:05 <markmc> so, that may make it too
21:07:36 <ttx> ok
21:07:38 <ttx> Two remarks on the roadmap:
21:07:44 <ttx> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/service-restart was proposed for havana and needs to be triaged
21:07:51 <ttx> markmc: Did you look into trusted-messaging's dependency on key-distribution-server ?
21:08:15 <markmc> yes, I put a tonne of info into the bp on that
21:08:24 <markmc> basically, yes we require *some* key distribution method
21:08:31 <markmc> keystone as a kds is the current plan
21:08:36 <markmc> so, right now - it's blocked on that
21:08:47 <markmc> if that wasn't making progress, we might consider a hacky short term plan
21:09:00 <ttx> markmc: can I mark it Blocked to reflect that ?
21:09:05 <markmc> will look at service-restart
21:09:08 <markmc> ok, will do
21:09:18 <ttx> markmc: anything you wanted to raise ?
21:09:35 <markmc> we added two new oslo-core members today
21:09:42 <markmc> Flavio Percoco
21:09:51 <markmc> and Zhongyue Luo
21:09:55 <markmc> will send out a mail on that
21:09:58 <ttx> congrats!
21:10:00 <markmc> that's it, otherwise
21:10:03 <ttx> Questions about Oslo ?
21:10:26 <ttx> #topic Keystone status
21:10:30 <ttx> dolphm: o/
21:10:31 <dolphm> o/
21:10:35 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-1
21:11:00 <ttx> dolphm: you deferred delegated-auth-via-oauth ?
21:11:31 <dolphm> ttx: yes, although there's good progress against that bp that will probably merge in m1, there's a long list of remaining TODO's that won't make it
21:11:43 <dolphm> i'm looking into splitting the bp into more achievable goals
21:12:06 <dolphm> so we might have a completed checkbox for m1, but if not -- it's on track for m2
21:12:25 <ttx> bug 967832 is targeted to havana-1 but has no assignee -- any idea if someone will work on that ?
21:12:27 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 967832 in keystone "Instances are still running when a tenant are deleted" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967832
21:12:45 <ttx> (or if we should just untarget it ?)
21:12:56 <dolphm> that's being worked in bp notifications
21:13:04 <dolphm> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/notifications
21:13:25 <ttx> so for havana-2 ?
21:13:26 <dolphm> which is blocked by https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/unified-logging-in-keystone ... which we just added to m1 and is nearly complete
21:13:47 <dolphm> ttx: yes, looks to be on pace for m2
21:13:55 <ttx> ok will retarget it
21:14:11 <ttx> On the more general havana plan, I saw that ayoung's proposal to split backends (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/split-identity) is missing from it
21:15:00 <dolphm> the scope of that bp is huge, and i'm trying to get some clarity on what we can accomplish in more discrete blueprints, one of which is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-backend
21:15:16 <markmcclain> o/
21:15:20 <ttx> yes, that's why I was a bit concerned to not see it appear anywhere
21:15:21 <dolphm> along with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/extract-credentials-id which has already merged
21:15:50 <ttx> ok, ideally there would be a set of dependent bps
21:16:02 <ttx> dolphm: Anything more about Keystone ?
21:16:02 <dolphm> ttx: will do
21:16:16 <dolphm> that's it!
21:16:17 <ttx> Questions anyone ?
21:16:38 <ttx> #topic Ceilometer status
21:16:46 <jd__> o/
21:16:48 <ttx> jd__: hey
21:16:51 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-1
21:17:00 <ttx> What's the status on udp-publishing and scheduler-counter ?
21:17:23 <jd__> scheduler-counter should be merged RSN now, no blocker
21:17:35 <jd__> udp publishing will be sent to review tomorrow
21:17:52 <ttx> collector-stores-events seems to be a bit short for next week ?
21:18:14 <jd__> ttx: yes
21:18:34 <jd__> add-event-table took more time we think I guess
21:18:46 <jd__> I'll talk with sandywalsh about it and I think we'll postpone
21:18:48 <ttx> jd__: how about deferring it to havana-2 and move it back to h1 in case it miraculously makes it ?
21:18:55 <jd__> ttx: yeah works for me :)
21:19:05 <ttx> OK. Looking into the general havana plan now...
21:19:13 <ttx> You have 3 proposals to triage @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/havana/+setgoals
21:19:22 <ttx> as if you didn't have enough BPs already ;)
21:19:28 <ttx> to which you may want to add https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/hyper-v-agent
21:19:48 <ttx> jd__: sqlalchemy-metadata-query is marked "Essential" -- who will be working on it ?
21:20:18 <jd__> ttx: nobody, and that's a problem, we keep essential so someone is willing to take it..
21:20:33 <jd__> whishful thinking
21:20:38 <ttx> hrm, not sure it's not the other way around :)
21:20:49 <jd__> haha
21:21:03 <ttx> if nobody takes it at start of H2 we'll have to remove it or down-prioritize it
21:21:15 <jd__> ttx: agreed
21:21:28 <ttx> I don't want to communicate that it WILL be in when it's likely that it won't
21:21:36 <ttx> Also it would be great to have a milestone target indicated for the two high-priority blueprints: hbase-metadata-query and alarm-api
21:21:53 <ttx> jd__: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:22:03 <jd__> nop, everything's fine otherwise
21:22:07 <ttx> Questions on Ceilometer ?
21:22:25 <ttx> #topic Swift status
21:22:29 <notmyname> hi
21:22:31 <ttx> notmyname: o/
21:22:35 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.1
21:22:42 <ttx> notmyname: quick update on 1.8.1 progress ?
21:23:03 <notmyname> I want to start getting it ready for release when the last global clusters feature lands
21:23:16 <notmyname> should happen Real Soon Now (tm), but no dates yet
21:23:30 <notmyname> b/c there's more that goes into it than just the patch landing
21:23:43 <ttx> a bit of black magic is needed too
21:23:48 <notmyname> :-)
21:24:02 <ttx> notmyname: anything else you wanted to raise ?
21:24:09 <notmyname> I've also updated #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/API to be more funtion-centric
21:24:29 <notmyname> it's our current work on formalizing the swift v1 api spec
21:24:40 <ttx> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/API
21:24:41 <notmyname> those are the two topics I have
21:24:44 <notmyname> thanks
21:24:48 <ttx> Questions about Swift ?
21:25:12 <ttx> #topic Glance status
21:25:16 <ttx> markwash: o/
21:25:22 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-1
21:25:24 <markwash> hello!
21:26:01 <ttx> preparing a heavy havana-2, I see
21:26:11 <markwash> well, some of those bps are just rolling on through
21:26:34 <markwash> I have been and will continue to seek more feedback from some of the assignees I'm not working as closely with
21:26:45 <ttx> You also have 4 bugs targeted...
21:26:59 <ttx> no recent activity on bug 1163012 and bug 1020749
21:27:02 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1163012 in glance "glance-manage should use entry_points instead of scripts" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163012
21:27:03 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1020749 in glance "Use Openstack-Common notifier" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020749
21:27:21 <ttx> review for bug 1173415 is abandoned
21:27:24 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1173415 in glance "Remove glance-control from the test suite" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1173415
21:27:30 <ttx> Should any of those be removed from the list ?
21:27:36 <markwash> ttx, I'll clean that up
21:27:41 <ttx> cool, thx
21:27:45 <ttx> Looking at the general havana plan now...
21:27:47 <markwash> been focusing on blueprints so far
21:28:29 <ttx> Looks pretty good to me now
21:28:36 * markwash tries
21:28:39 <ttx> markwash: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:28:52 <markwash> nothing at the moment, thanks
21:28:57 <ttx> Questions on Glance ?
21:29:19 <ttx> markwash: thx!
21:29:23 <ttx> markmcclain: around ?
21:29:26 <markmcclain> hi
21:29:29 <ttx> #topic Quantum status
21:29:32 <ttx> markmcclain: hi!
21:29:35 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/havana-1
21:30:05 <ttx> Nice progress, still a lot to land but you're in a pretty good shape
21:30:17 <ttx> markmcclain: About remove-use-of-quantum: do you think it's still doable for havana-1 ?
21:30:48 <ttx> do you have some patch prepared that just needs the go-ahead on the naming ?
21:30:55 <markmcclain> it's still doable, but I haven't heard back on the names we sent over
21:31:11 <ttx> markmcclain: I asked Mark Collier to get back to you ASAP
21:31:39 <markmcclain> awesome.. thanks
21:31:53 <ttx> not sure we can actually get everything lined up, including CI, with the rush on reviews pre-h1
21:32:11 <markmcclain> yeah.. that's my biggest concern
21:32:20 <ttx> maybe it's a better bet to do it just after h1. Not very happy with publishing another thing called "quantum" now but meh
21:32:32 <ttx> we'll see what we can do
21:32:50 <ttx> #action ttx to check with CI impact of renaming quantum a few days before milestone publication
21:33:17 <ttx> Looking at your 19 havana-1-targeted bugs now...
21:33:57 <ttx> bug 1136252 does not seem to be worked on... still want to keep it in-list ?
21:33:58 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1136252 in quantum "[Metaplugin] fails with VIF extension" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1136252
21:34:18 <markmcclain> that bug was added last day or so
21:34:39 <ttx> markmcclain: I somehow doubt that
21:34:47 <markmcclain> if code is not ready by Thursday I'm going to move it out
21:34:51 <ttx> last activity 2013-03-05 21:47:57
21:35:11 <ttx> markmcclain: ok
21:35:13 <ttx> A couple remarks on the general havana plan:
21:35:51 <ttx> A few blueprints are targeted to havana-2 but not in the havana series goal: quantum-service-agent, lbaas-integration-with-service-types, varmour-fwaas-driver
21:36:18 <markmcclain> ttx: you're right I was thinking about another metaplugin bug
21:36:19 <ttx> ipsec-vpn-reference, lbaas-agent-scheduler and sharing-model-for-external-networks need a priority set...
21:36:35 <markmcclain> I'll clean up those BPs
21:36:37 <ttx> that's all I had
21:36:39 <ttx> markmcclain: anything you wanted to raise ?
21:37:05 <markmcclain> we covered renaming which was my main item
21:37:09 <ttx> Questions on Quantum ?
21:37:27 <ttx> #topic Cinder status
21:37:29 <ttx> jgriffith: hi!
21:37:32 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-1
21:37:45 <jgriffith> hola
21:37:48 <ttx> Looks like it's a bit late
21:37:52 <ttx> Anything you already know won't make it ?
21:38:07 <jgriffith> ttx: I already kicked a few out, EMC and NetApp held up by legal
21:38:13 <jgriffith> ttx: I think the rest will make it
21:38:18 <ttx> ok
21:38:21 <ttx> You also have 7 open bugs on the havana-1 list...
21:38:26 <jgriffith> ttx: I'll adjust tomorrow night if things don't go as I plan
21:38:29 <ttx> bug 1169290, bug 1166899, bug 1171906 and bug 1161557 have no assignee
21:38:32 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1169290 in cinder "local attach of iSCSI silently fails" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1169290
21:38:33 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1166899 in cinder "MultiBackend naming convention not compatable with zmq" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1166899
21:38:34 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1171906 in cinder "cinder fail test_schedule_happy_day test" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171906
21:38:35 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1161557 in nova "Race condition in handling of udev generated symlinks" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161557
21:38:37 <jgriffith> ttx: Yes
21:38:39 <ttx> and the others haven't seen any recent activity... so this list could probably be refreshed/refined
21:38:58 <jgriffith> ttx: I'll be the default for the ones not assigned
21:39:13 <jgriffith> ttx: I may drop two of them, haven't decided yet
21:39:21 <ttx> jgriffith: maybe go over them and remove the milestone target if nobody will work on them
21:39:23 <jgriffith> I'll get to them in the next 48 hours though
21:39:28 <ttx> Looking at the general havana plans now...
21:39:35 <ttx> You have four more to triage at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/havana/+setgoals
21:39:52 <ttx> jgriffith: Did you work with Avishay on breaking up his volume-migration blueprint ?
21:39:53 <jgriffith> dang it!
21:40:07 <jgriffith> ttx: I've asked him to do it, but haven't seen any effort there yet
21:40:18 <jgriffith> ttx: I'll harass him in our meeting tomorrow or do it for him
21:40:25 <ttx> jgriffith: Sounds good. Anything else on your mind ?
21:40:34 <jgriffith> haha...
21:40:37 <jgriffith> not that I should share here :)
21:40:47 <ttx> naughty.
21:40:51 <ttx> Questions on Cinder ?
21:41:20 <ttx> #topic Nova status
21:41:22 <russellb> o/
21:41:23 <ttx> russellb: hey
21:41:27 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-1
21:41:38 <russellb> been updating during meeting, heh
21:41:39 <ttx> Nice progress overall... anything you suspect won't make it ?
21:41:46 <russellb> i think everything left is doable
21:41:56 <russellb> will continue to track progress and push on these things throughout the week
21:42:17 <ttx> I see you fixed the bug list too, good
21:42:38 <ttx> About the general havana plan, there are 9 hyper-v blueprints that are targeted to havana-{2,3} for which the series goal should probably be set
21:42:40 <russellb> yeah, untargeted a bunch of stuff that didn't need to block the release
21:42:44 <ttx> You can see them at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova?searchtext=hyper-v
21:43:01 <russellb> argh ... this part of launchpad drives me crazy
21:43:09 <russellb> so hard to catch all of these
21:43:29 <russellb> ok, will fix these up
21:43:33 <ttx> the trick is there is no way to really automate this one way or another
21:43:47 <ttx> since half of them should be denied
21:44:11 <russellb> i like how setting havana is gated, but wish the milestone was too
21:44:51 <ttx> russellb: anything else you wanted to mention ?
21:44:58 <russellb> don't think so
21:45:02 <ttx> Any question on Nova ?
21:45:29 <ttx> #topic Heat status
21:45:32 <shardy> hi
21:45:32 <ttx> shardy: o/
21:45:36 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-1
21:45:45 <ttx> Looks like you're in good shape...
21:45:51 <ttx> What's the status of native-cinder-volume ?
21:46:05 <shardy> Yep, couple of bugs might get bumped, but otherwise good
21:46:36 <ttx> Was wondering if https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/scalingpolicy-update-stack wasn't actually complete
21:47:10 <ttx> shardy: yes, your targeted bug list looks pretty current... except maybe bug 1166084 and bug 1158598
21:47:11 <shardy> ttx: native-cinder-volume patches are under review atm, last one pending to be merged I think
21:47:12 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1166084 in heat "Creation of NetworkInterface resource failed because GroupSet attribute is invalid" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1166084
21:47:13 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1158598 in heat "REST error body should be parseable by clients" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158598
21:47:30 <ttx> but otherwise looks good
21:47:57 <shardy> yes you're probably right re scalingpolicy-update-stack, will fix
21:48:27 <shardy> will clarify which bugs, if any, move to h2 at our meeting tomorrow
21:48:31 <ttx> I see you added milestone targets to most BPs
21:48:50 <ttx> In the high-prio list that only leaves open-api-dsl untargeted
21:48:52 <shardy> yes, particularly the high priorit ones
21:49:12 <ttx> Also resource-template (High priority) depends on resource-properties-schema (Low priority) -- that should be adjusted
21:49:13 <shardy> that is deliberate, since it's kind of an umbrella BP
21:49:20 <ttx> shardy: ok
21:49:31 <shardy> and also we're still very much discussing the scope of what will be achievable for havana
21:50:02 <shardy> ttx: ok, will fix the resource-* ones
21:50:05 <ttx> shardy: anything else you want to raise ?
21:50:16 <shardy> ttx: don't think so, no
21:50:18 <ttx> Questions about Heat ?
21:50:48 <ttx> #topic Horizon status
21:50:51 <ttx> gabrielhurley: o/
21:50:55 <gabrielhurley> \o
21:50:56 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-1
21:51:05 <gabrielhurley> refresh if you haven't recently
21:51:08 <ttx> Time to land stuff, apparently :)
21:51:24 <gabrielhurley> yeah. the story is basically "everything's got patches, and we need to do a lot of reviewing"
21:51:37 <gabrielhurley> but aside from that it's all looking good for next tuesday
21:51:49 <ttx> Was wondering if https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/admin-password-for-server shouldn't be marked "implemented"
21:52:03 <ttx> couldn't find another review up for it
21:52:13 <gabrielhurley> possibly
21:52:23 <ttx> What's the status for heat-ui ?
21:52:24 <gabrielhurley> I'm a little behind the last day or two
21:52:32 <ttx> all patches proposed ?
21:52:44 <gabrielhurley> heat-ui just got posted and I need to look at it. everything's up, but it's got the most work needed.
21:52:53 <ttx> ok
21:53:19 <ttx> you refined your bug list I see
21:53:21 <gabrielhurley> yep
21:53:34 <gabrielhurley> I always just roll the bugs I think *can* be fixed from milestone to milestone
21:53:45 <ttx> so those are all the ones you'd like to see closed by h1 delivery day ?
21:53:50 <gabrielhurley> ideally
21:54:07 <gabrielhurley> it's really just the transifex stuff that doesn't have a review already
21:54:09 <ttx> ok, we'll refine again next week with the ones that would be worth backporting hassle
21:54:12 <gabrielhurley> yep
21:54:50 <ttx> In other news, two new blueprints were proposed for havana
21:54:59 <ttx> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/havana/+setgoals
21:55:01 <ttx> gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ?
21:55:09 <gabrielhurley> not currently
21:55:13 <ttx> Questions on Horizon ?
21:55:54 <ttx> #topic Incubated projects
21:55:58 <ttx> hub_cap, devananda: hi!
21:56:06 <devananda> ttx: hi!
21:56:14 <ttx> devananda: got your repo set up ?
21:56:21 <devananda> yes :)
21:56:31 <hub_cap> hai
21:56:40 * hub_cap doesnt have a name... or a repo
21:56:53 <ttx> hub_cap will wait for a new name before he can move off stackforge
21:56:57 <hub_cap> def
21:57:02 <ttx> Any question ?
21:57:26 <ttx> I don't think it makes a lot of sense to do a h1 for any of you next week
21:57:31 <devananda> no questions here. i can give a small update if you want
21:57:47 <hub_cap> ttx: we honestly could... our project is pretty far along so to speak
21:57:48 <ttx> since one doesn't have a lot to show and the other doesn't have the definitive name yet ?
21:57:55 <hub_cap> oh well ya
21:58:04 <ttx> hub_cap: how about we do one once you get the name in
21:58:06 <hub_cap> thats a sticking point isint it :P
21:58:10 <hub_cap> ttx: sounds great
21:58:13 <devananda> but yea, h1 doesn't make sense for Ironic. mostly straw-men here right now :)
21:58:35 <ttx> #action ttx to help with reddwarf h1 publication when the name issue is settled
21:58:43 <ttx> devananda: please go ahead
21:58:50 <ttx> (with a small update)
21:59:24 <devananda> we're still laying the groundwork for most things
21:59:34 <devananda> API spec should be relatively complete soon, hopefully this week
21:59:39 <devananda> manager service and so on as well
22:00:10 <devananda> but lots to do :) still hoping to have something to show for h2, but hard to be sure yet what it'll be
22:00:18 <devananda> [eol]
22:00:21 <ttx> devananda: thx!
22:00:26 <hub_cap> update in one line: Heat integration and devstack/tempest integration my two highest prios. backups and notifications just merged for h1. hope to have heat in h2.
22:00:44 <ttx> that closes our meeting. Thanks everyone !
22:00:49 <ttx> #endmeeting