21:02:22 <ttx> #startmeeting project
21:02:23 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Apr  9 21:02:22 2013 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:02:27 <gabrielhurley> \o
21:02:33 <ttx> We won't be doing per-project status today, as the agenda is a bit different
21:02:38 <ttx> #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting
21:02:44 <ttx> should be quick
21:02:54 <ttx> #topic Grizzly release post-mortem
21:03:00 <ttx> So... The Grizzly common release was published last week
21:03:14 <ttx> While it's hot, anything you would like to raise that we need to better address next time ?
21:03:46 <ttx> Nova had its share of bugs that flew below release radar until just after release
21:04:01 <ttx> In particular https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1158958 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1162409
21:04:03 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1158958 in oslo "Nova API Memcached Encoding Error" [Medium,Confirmed]
21:04:21 <gabrielhurley> the translation string freeze/translation re-integration could probably be a little more coordinated. Otherwise I liked the pacing of this release.
21:04:38 <ttx> markmc: vishy wanted to consider an early point release to fix the most obvious stuff
21:05:46 <ttx> gabrielhurley: yes, i'm not sure we picked up the latest translations once RC1 was cut
21:06:06 <gabrielhurley> I think it was *inconsistent*
21:06:07 <markmc> ttx, sounds good - Daviey and apevec were talking about that too on the stable-maint list
21:06:07 <apevec> ttx, vishy, how early?
21:07:03 <vishy> well currently we are identifiying the performance problem
21:07:27 <vishy> there are a couple critical fixes which we should address asap
21:07:40 <vishy> but we haven't fully fixed one of them yet :(
21:07:46 <ttx> gabrielhurley: we globally still need to have a more polished story when it comes to translations. What we translate, how we integrate them, how we use them.
21:08:05 <gabrielhurley> indeed. I think there are folks working on that at the summit
21:08:27 <ttx> vishy: the main thing is to get the fix in stable/grizzly. point release is the cherry on top of the cake
21:08:47 <ttx> annegentle: how is Grizzly documentation release going ?
21:08:59 <markmc> gabrielhurley, kinda randomly, you might be interested in http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/17d2bd1f676d9843756b4e0cbda7af93
21:09:25 <gabrielhurley> markmc: thanks for the link. I knew it was happening but hadn't looked for when.
21:09:32 <annegentle> gabrielhurley: we have a docs translation session Mon. at 1:50
21:09:54 <annegentle> http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/b85bf7ac93e121e96dd9a6af16ffa8be#.UWRFvdNAT2k
21:10:01 <gabrielhurley> I'll try and attend anything i18n related just on principle. people in the community are stepping up on it more though, which is great.
21:11:08 <ttx> <ttx> annegentle: how is Grizzly documentation release going ?
21:11:27 <annegentle> ttx: getting there but we don't have to take up Horizon meeting time :)
21:12:25 <annegentle> ttx: oh sorry I'm confused on my meetings :)
21:12:37 <annegentle> #info in our doc team meeting today we decided to release after the summit
21:12:40 <ttx> annegentle: indeed. You have plenty of time :)
21:12:43 <annegentle> we need more testing
21:12:49 <annegentle> esp. for install docs of course
21:13:01 <annegentle> I have 2 testers, one for RHEL, one for Ubuntu
21:13:39 <annegentle> My best guess is either by 4/26 or by 5/10.
21:13:46 <annegentle> You can tell I'm reallll accurate
21:13:48 <annegentle> :)
21:15:02 <annegentle> fifieldt said in our meeting this morning that "most" of the DocImpact bugs are addressed, but if you logged a DocImpact, it's really on you to follow up
21:15:03 <ttx> anything anyone wanted to add on the Grizzly postmortem topic ?
21:15:05 <annegentle> but I think DocImpact had a good impact this release
21:15:46 <annegentle> #info if you logged a DocImpact in the Grizzly release, please look into the docs for the impact
21:16:07 <gabrielhurley> on a related topic
21:16:34 <gabrielhurley> there's probably a wiki page about the tags we use, but it'd be helpful to have something that put them more forward in peoples' minds
21:16:46 <gabrielhurley> I myself forget to tag things frequently, or can't remembe what the right tag to use is
21:16:53 <ttx> gabrielhurley: you can edit the list of official tags in LP
21:17:06 * gabrielhurley didn't know there was one
21:17:23 <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+manage-official-tags
21:17:38 <ttx> gabrielhurley: affects autocomplete
21:17:42 <gabrielhurley> interesting
21:17:44 <ttx> #topic 2012.2.4 stable release
21:17:52 <ttx> markmc, apevec: floor is yours
21:18:12 <markmc> we're almost ready to go, I think
21:18:20 <ttx> gabrielhurley: (and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bug_Tags)
21:18:22 <markmc> a couple of reviews in cinder for the nec driver
21:18:27 <ttx> I checked that there were no missing files in the tarballs, fwiw
21:18:36 <markmc> but apart from that, it's been quiet since the freeze
21:18:45 <markmc> ttx, thanks, was there a worry there?
21:18:47 <apevec> and in quantum for pfc driver
21:19:00 <ttx> markmc: no. Just doublechecking :)
21:19:27 <apevec> ttx, thanks
21:19:47 <markmc> so, seems good to go to me, unless anyone has any concerns
21:20:40 <ttx> sounds good
21:20:51 <ttx> #topic Summit schedule adjustment fair
21:21:02 <ttx> Design Summit schedule is up at http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/overview/type/design+summit
21:21:13 <ttx> We are still missing Glance and Horizon schedules
21:21:16 <gabrielhurley> I just pushed mine
21:21:28 <ttx> gabrielhurley: hmm, recently then :)
21:21:31 <gabrielhurley> 5 minutes ago
21:21:34 <ttx> hah
21:21:39 <ttx> got me again
21:21:41 * gabrielhurley is multi-tasking
21:22:03 <ttx> markwash: any ETA for yours ?
21:22:15 <markwash> ttx: I'd prefer tomorrow night if that is okay
21:22:40 <ttx> markwash: will do
21:23:15 <markwash> some things are getting squashed together, and I want a chance for a little more glance team feedback (tomorrow at the glance meeting)
21:23:19 <ttx> markwash: if you have partial content you can still push it though
21:23:29 <ttx> I know people start looking into their session selection, so the sooner the better
21:23:29 <markwash> ttx: ah, okay, I'll push what I have so far today
21:23:39 <markwash> good point!
21:23:58 <ttx> markwash: no problem pushing multiple times
21:24:15 <ttx> markwash: the only thing the sync doesn't do is removing sessions if you suppress some
21:24:35 <ttx> OK, so if you want to ask for small adjustments so that you can avoid being double-booked, now is a good time to ask
21:24:40 <dolphm_> we just discovered this morning that the 'security' track got scheduled on the same day as the keystone track, which presents some conflicts... any chance we can move anything around?
21:25:21 <ttx> dolphm_: it's quite tricky at this point
21:25:27 <markwash> I don't know of any reason why Glance is married to Wednesday
21:25:46 <markwash> but it wouldn't be the first important thing I just don't know about
21:26:02 <jd__> yeah I already sent a mail to move a nova and quantum session, but I'm under the impression that russellb and markmcclain aren't around?
21:26:18 <markmcclain> I'm here
21:26:27 <russellb> i'm here
21:26:32 <russellb> been on a plane all day, so haven't seen the mail
21:26:37 <jd__> wrong impression :)
21:27:03 <jd__> http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/c44c71996bf04d28d8eb926031312974#.UWPcc5BzTf0 and http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/dd227871952ae6a572658d16d8272f7c#.UWPcdJBzTf0
21:27:12 <jd__> and both are about Ceilometer
21:27:36 <jd__> which is great, but if one could be moved so us Ceilometer folks can participates in both that'd be awesome
21:27:49 <russellb> seems reasonable
21:27:51 <ttx> dolphm_: to minimize changes we would have to swap two topics, and Thursday is the only one with 9 slots
21:28:35 <jd__> ttx: btw do you happen to know who handles the scheduling of talks etc?
21:28:46 <dolphm_> ttx: understandable
21:28:53 <ttx> and Swift and Heat need to happen "not on Thursday"'
21:29:28 <ttx> jd__: each conference track has its own group of people
21:29:37 <dolphm_> there's at least 4 'security' sessions where it would make sense to have a strong keystone-core presence in attendance
21:30:06 <ttx> hyakuhei_ is the lead for the security track
21:30:07 <russellb> markmcclain: i'll move the nova+ceilometer one
21:30:15 <ttx> i don't think he has the option to move any of it on another day now
21:32:16 <ttx> dolphm_: no, I don't really see a good solution for the issue at this point. one or two weeks ago we could probably have tried something, but now that everything was scheduled and published...
21:32:55 <dolphm_> it's not critical, we'll try to work around it... sorry we didn't notice sooner :(
21:32:58 <jd__> thanks russellb
21:33:21 <ttx> dolphm_: you can still watch the presentations videos...
21:33:31 <russellb> jd__: markmcclain shold be all set now
21:34:42 <ttx> anything else ?
21:34:46 <jd__> russellb: thanks!
21:35:19 <russellb> np
21:35:29 <markmcclain> russellb: cool
21:36:44 <ttx> OK, so if you need further adjustments you can just contact the topic lead so that he moves things around
21:36:59 <ttx> use with caution, as the move is likely to piss off someone else
21:37:22 <ttx> and remember that there is no way to please everyone
21:37:51 <ttx> anyone has anything else to add ?
21:37:57 <ttx> questions about the summit ?
21:38:09 * russellb is excited to see you all
21:40:12 <ttx> I guess no questions
21:40:25 <ttx> well, you know where to ask if you have some
21:40:28 <ttx> #endmeeting