21:03:04 <ttx> #startmeeting project 21:03:05 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Nov 20 21:03:04 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:03:06 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:03:07 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:03:15 <ttx> Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:03:27 <ttx> Note that the agenda order was slightly reworked in order to have common topics first 21:03:46 <ttx> so when you're done you can more easily ignore the rest of the meeting :) 21:03:53 <ttx> #topic General announcements 21:03:55 <stevebake> o/ for heat 21:04:17 <ttx> #info At the end of today (i.e. tomorrow European morning), I'll cut the milestone-proposed branches for the projects that do grizzly-1 21:04:32 <ttx> In this meeting we'll look into grizzly-1 status and defer bugs/blueprints where appropriate 21:04:42 <ttx> mordred, annegentle, davidkranz: Anything in CI, QA or Docs that you want to bring to the general attention ? 21:04:54 <markmc> ttx, if you want common stuff first, maybe put stable branch in there too 21:05:05 <markmc> ttx, this week is supposed to be 2012.2 release week 21:05:08 <ttx> markmc: good point 21:05:16 <ttx> markmc: go ahead 21:05:16 <annegentle__> yes, we now have a new Basic Install guide at http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/ 21:05:37 <markmc> ok, so at the summit we agreed a tentative schedule 21:05:42 <davidkranz> ttx: Just that attempts to run the ful tempest gate are now failing quite often. 21:05:46 <markmc> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/process-stable-branch 21:05:54 <markmc> 2012.2 was put in for November 22nd 21:06:00 <markmc> didn't realize it was thanksgiving at the time 21:06:09 <markmc> but we're in pretty good shape for a release IMHO 21:06:09 <davidkranz> This bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 21:06:11 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] 21:06:12 <markmc> bugs fixed: 21:06:22 <markmc> 37 nova 21:06:22 <markmc> 25 quantum 21:06:22 <markmc> 9 glance 21:06:22 <markmc> 6 keystone 21:06:22 <markmc> 3 cinder 21:06:23 <markmc> 1 horizon 21:06:27 <markmc> 81 total 21:06:43 <markmc> I'm thinking of going ahead and announcing RC tarballs 21:06:52 <markmc> and pushing the release as planned on Thursday 21:07:03 <markmc> don't want to do it the same week as grizzl-1 21:07:10 <markmc> don't see the need to push it out 2 weeks 21:07:10 <ttx> markmc: not worth waiting one more week ? 21:07:16 <davidkranz> ttx: Perhaps this group can figure out how to get that issue involved as it is not clear where the problem lies. 21:07:27 <ttx> markmc: grizzly-1 is this week 21:07:37 <markmc> ttx, ah, perfect - I got mixed up 21:07:45 <markmc> ttx, ok, let's do it next week 21:07:51 <ttx> markmc: sounds good 21:07:55 <markmc> I'll send out a mail 21:08:03 <markmc> if PTLs know of fixes that need backporting 21:08:06 <markmc> nows a good time 21:08:08 <ttx> #info 2012.2.1 scheduled for next week 21:08:39 <ttx> davidkranz: looks like Nova failures ? 21:08:48 <davidkranz> ttx: Yes. 21:08:58 <davidkranz> ttx: But it could be an infrastructure issue. 21:09:09 <ttx> davidkranz: ok, we can cover it in the Nova topic, hopefully we'll have vishy by then 21:09:21 <davidkranz> ttx: Great. 21:09:24 <ttx> Anything else for the general crowd before we dive into project-specific topics ? 21:10:07 <ttx> #topic Oslo status 21:10:20 <ttx> markmc: welcome back 21:10:25 <markmc> thanks, I've been a little AWOL 21:10:28 * markmc done with travelling 21:10:38 <ttx> Incomplete action item: markmc to file blueprint for oslo-config release 21:10:50 <markmc> #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:10:54 <markmc> ttx, ah, good point 21:11:02 <ttx> #action markmc to file blueprint for oslo-config release 21:11:09 <markmc> also need to dig into the release version thing 21:11:13 <markmc> both are related 21:11:13 <ttx> ok, looking at g1 21:11:22 <ttx> cfg-argparse: should it be considered implemented ? 21:11:25 <heckj> o/ 21:11:32 <ttx> oh it was 21:11:44 <markmc> yeah, want to get all the projects using it 21:11:46 <ttx> in the last 5 minutes 21:11:50 <markmc> but that'll be grizzly-2 at this point 21:12:09 <ttx> oslo-release-versioning: defer to g2 ? 21:12:13 <markmc> yep 21:12:14 * markmc does that 21:12:43 <ttx> ok 21:12:44 <markmc> bit behind on bug triage too, but don't see anything too scarey 21:12:44 <ttx> markmc/others: Anything you wanted to raise on oslo, before we switch to next topic ? 21:13:22 <ttx> #topic Keystone status 21:13:28 <ttx> heckj: hello! 21:13:34 <heckj> ola! 21:13:35 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:13:44 <heckj> (refresh if you haven't recently - was cleaning in past 30 minutes) 21:13:49 * ttx refreshes 21:14:13 <ttx> implement-v3-core-api: how far are we ? 21:14:17 <heckj> two blueprints are pending code reviews, and look to be complete by Thursday 21:14:38 <heckj> For a tech preview, we're looking good - starting to log new bugs, etc. and deal with issues as they've been coming up 21:14:40 <ttx> heckj: trick is, we are supposed to cut the branch at the end of today, not the end of Thursday 21:14:58 <heckj> Ah - thought the date was the 22nd 21:15:11 * gabrielhurley thought that too 21:15:14 <jgriffith> heckj: That makes two of us 21:15:15 <ttx> the branch lives for two days before being released 21:15:42 <ttx> with only the theoretical bugfix backports 21:15:45 <ttx> hmmmkay 21:15:57 <heckj> I think we'll want to update the Grizzly Release page with that detail - I certainly didn't expect that 21:16:11 <jgriffith> +1 21:16:19 <ttx> http://wiki.openstack.org/PTLguide#Special_actions_on_Milestone_delivery_week 21:16:37 * gabrielhurley never saw that page 21:16:59 * jgriffith says "well crap" 21:17:01 <ttx> it's only g1, so I guess we could do the milestone cut slightly later 21:17:15 <heckj> two pending reviews to complete the V3 API - that's all that remains 21:17:25 <ttx> would Thursday EU morning be OK with you ? 21:17:33 <heckj> yep 21:17:41 <gabrielhurley> +1 21:17:42 <ttx> then I can publish the milestone on Friday morning, while it's still Thursday somewhere 21:18:07 <ttx> ok, let's do that. 21:18:25 <ttx> Sorry I thought that was clear (that's how we did all the folsom milestones, no change in that area) 21:19:12 <ttx> heckj: so implement-v3-core-api and rbac-keystone-api should be in by EOD tomorrow ? 21:19:30 <heckj> Yes. In other news, ton of bugs nailed down, including auth_token into a separate repo (keystoneclient) 21:19:42 <ttx> Anything more about Keystone ? 21:19:50 <heckj> that's it from me 21:20:11 <ttx> #topic Swift status 21:20:14 <notmyname> o/ 21:20:17 <ttx> notmyname: o/ 21:20:26 <ttx> 1.7.5 was released last week... 21:20:41 <ttx> notmyname: Anything planned yt for 1.7.6 ? 21:20:45 <ttx> yet* 21:20:51 <notmyname> dates? no 21:21:12 <vishy> back 21:21:13 <ttx> notmyname: did you get to the bottom of your -announce issues ? 21:21:30 <notmyname> ttx: I sent several messages, all rejected (as expected) 21:21:38 <ttx> for what reason ? 21:21:56 <ttx> it should say "message held for moderation", not "rejected" 21:22:04 <ttx> then I can whitelist you 21:22:31 <ttx> but at this point your emails don't even show up on the moderation panel 21:22:32 <notmyname> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has 21:22:32 <notmyname> been automatically rejected. 21:22:54 <ttx> notmyname: hmm, weird. Are you a list member ? 21:23:04 <notmyname> no 21:23:21 <ttx> maybe that would explain the difference with others that we could moderate in 21:23:36 <ttx> notmyname: your call, jhoin the list and repost, or forward me the email contents and i'll post it for you 21:23:51 <notmyname> I'll try again 21:23:59 <ttx> That's all I had. Anything else about Swift before we move to Glance ? 21:24:42 <ttx> #topic Glance status 21:24:45 <ttx> bcwaldon: hi! 21:24:48 <bcwaldon> ttx: hello! 21:25:05 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:25:14 <bcwaldon> don't act like you're not impressed 21:25:21 <ttx> so *you* are done 21:25:32 <bcwaldon> indeed 21:25:40 <ttx> because *you* knew that Tuesday is always the cut date. 21:25:46 <ttx> just saying 21:25:47 <bcwaldon> right... 21:26:01 <ttx> On the general grizzly plan, did you sort out streaming-server priority? 21:26:06 <bcwaldon> oooh 21:26:08 <bcwaldon> maybe not 21:26:09 <ttx> Maybe set it to Low and keep it as a target of opportunity ? 21:26:25 <bcwaldon> doing it now 21:26:45 <bcwaldon> ttx: ah, I untargeted it already 21:26:46 <bcwaldon> huzzah 21:26:49 <ttx> so I can cut milestone-proposed for Glance tomorrow morning ? and let it live with the occasional backport for a few days ? 21:26:57 <bcwaldon> yes you may 21:27:11 <ttx> bcwaldon: so I should remove the series goal too, so that it doesn't pollute the view 21:27:21 <ttx> done 21:27:23 <bcwaldon> fine with me 21:27:38 <ttx> bcwaldon/others: Anything more on Glance before we switch to Quantum ? 21:27:51 <bcwaldon> ttx: Released python-glanceclient v0.6.0 last night 21:28:00 <bcwaldon> writing up a note for the list today 21:28:09 <ttx> nice. Anything we should know about it ? 21:28:29 <bcwaldon> #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-glanceclient/#id1 21:29:01 <ttx> bcwaldon: anything else ? 21:29:02 <heckj> nice! 21:29:09 <bcwaldon> ttx: that would be it 21:29:29 <ttx> #topic Quantum status 21:29:34 <ttx> danwent: o/ 21:29:36 <danwent> o/ 21:29:41 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:29:46 <danwent> btw, refresh if you didn't in last 30 mins :) 21:29:53 <ttx> oooh 21:29:58 <ttx> I like that 21:30:05 <danwent> we had a couple "just misses" in terms of features 21:30:15 <danwent> but i figured there was no need to try to cram for G-1, so we moved them to G-2 21:30:24 <ttx> there are two ryu blueprints that are targeted to g2 but already completed... 21:30:28 <danwent> there's only one bug that really MUST be in G-1 that is not merged 21:30:39 <ttx> dansmith: shoulds I move them to g1 ? 21:30:44 <ttx> danwent: ^ 21:30:53 <danwent> ttx: sure.. i think those where the one's I was pestering for an update on :) 21:31:00 <danwent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1081259 21:31:03 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1081259 in quantum "hasattr check for get_*_counts is invalid " [Critical,In progress] 21:31:20 <danwent> this one is a regression introduced in a previous fix, so we need to get this in. just needs one more +2, so we should be in good shape 21:31:39 <ttx> moved both ryu things to g1 21:31:50 <danwent> yup, looks good 21:31:53 <ttx> danwent: for bugfixes you have until Thursday anyway 21:32:09 <danwent> ttx: yup, bug given the holidays, i'm trying to clear the deck 21:32:11 <ttx> danwent: so I can cut milestone-proposed tomorrow morning and we can backport that fix ? 21:32:23 <danwent> yeah, if its not merged in by then, we can backport it 21:32:38 <danwent> remember that you'll be contacting salv-orlando for the milestones, as I am connection-less :( 21:33:00 <salv-orlando> yeah no thanksgiving for me... 21:33:10 <ttx> for the other two bugs, if they are not in at the end of today, they will be g2 ? 21:33:18 <danwent> salv-orlando: i've give up my thanksgiving for a wifi connection 21:33:35 <danwent> ttx: yes. we're just targeting them for g1, as we'd like to backport them sooner rather than later 21:33:45 <danwent> (backport to stable/folsom that is) 21:33:54 <ttx> ok 21:34:01 <danwent> and people are targeting G-1 as a point for releasing 2012.1, I believe 21:34:32 <danwent> (though I just saw a flurry of emails on this, so perhaps that date was moved up?) 21:34:33 <ttx> well, if you want the fix in 2012.2.1 that wil help 21:34:45 <ttx> 2012.2.1 should be next week 21:35:02 <ttx> Anything more on Quantum ? 21:35:20 <danwent> ttx: ok, great. maybe markmc is just taking care of items that are already in in preparation for the official 2012.1 release next week 21:35:39 <ttx> danwent: yes 21:36:03 <ttx> #topic Cinder status 21:36:07 <ttx> jgriffith: o/ 21:36:11 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:36:14 <jgriffith> Hello 21:36:25 <ttx> so looks like you could use another day or two :) 21:36:28 <jgriffith> I'm still hopeful for all of them by tomorrow 21:36:35 <jgriffith> ttx: :( 21:37:04 <ttx> jgriffith: let's do it like for Keystone, one more day before I cut the g1 branch 21:37:12 <jgriffith> ttx: Thanks, that would be great 21:37:24 <ttx> jgriffith: and we'll see how far we are tomorrow 21:37:43 <ttx> driver-cleanup: is there anything more to it than the two commits already merged ? 21:38:03 <jgriffith> ttx: yeah... some minor org changes (moving things under a drivers directory) 21:38:11 <ttx> ok 21:38:18 <jgriffith> ttx: If rnirmal can't get to it I'll finish it tonight or tomorrow morning 21:38:29 <ttx> cinder-apiv2: this looks a bit far away... is there a point in trying to get it in g1 ? or defer to g2 ? 21:38:41 <jgriffith> ttx: I need to reword that BP and have it in phases 21:38:47 <ttx> couldn't really find code proposed for it 21:38:55 <jgriffith> ttx: The initial framework piece should be G1, the rest G2 and on 21:39:08 <ttx> jgriffith: sounds good, just explode it in multiple blueprints 21:39:24 <jgriffith> ttx: Yep, there are 5 outstanding reviews for it already 21:39:37 <jgriffith> ttx: I'll clean up the BP this afternoon 21:39:55 <ttx> sounds good. I'll talk to you tomorrow to check progress 21:40:04 <ttx> everyone ready to switch to Nova ? 21:40:08 <jgriffith> ttx: Looking forward to it :) 21:40:18 <jgriffith> tomorrow that is... 21:40:38 <ttx> #topic Nova status 21:40:41 <ttx> vishy: hey 21:40:48 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:40:50 <vishy> hi 21:41:19 <ttx> so, let's see 21:41:44 <ttx> do you want to play the "i forgot we cut on Tuesday" card to get another day ? 21:42:00 <ttx> or it won't really help ? 21:42:07 <vishy> i don't know that it will help 21:42:07 <vishy> j 21:42:10 <vishy> just looking 21:42:27 <ttx> let's have a look at them 21:42:28 <ttx> xenapi-volume-drivers: looks a bit far away ? 21:42:40 <ttx> server-count-for-nova-flavors: same ? 21:42:49 <ttx> better-libvirt-network-volume-support: looks like it's almost there ? 21:43:05 <vishy> i'm not sure if the volume driver patch is done 21:43:06 <vishy> the 21:43:13 <vishy> last current review got sent in 21:43:32 <ttx> general-bare-metal-provisioning-framework: looks like it's still at least one week away? 21:43:47 <ttx> quota-instance-resource: same ? 21:43:58 <ttx> hyper-v-config-drive-v2: unknown status, not in series goal... should I just un-milestone it ? 21:44:32 <vishy> baremetal is going to be another few days 21:44:47 <ttx> not sure any of those would get in given an extra day 21:44:55 <vishy> quota-instance no code, don't know what happened so i delayed 21:45:02 <vishy> i think the hyper-v config drive is in 21:45:03 <vishy> jus 21:45:11 <vishy> t didn't get linked to the blueprint properly 21:45:12 <vishy> lo 21:45:16 <vishy> ooking for it 21:46:38 <ttx> vishy: I can clarify that off-meeting 21:47:11 <ttx> vishy: should I cut tomorrow morning with what's in ? and defer the rest ? or wait until eod tomorrow ? 21:47:25 <vishy> tomorrow morning should be fine 21:47:45 <ttx> vishy: ok, let me know if I should assume otherwise 21:47:50 <ttx> On the bug side, we have bug 1076109 21:47:50 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1076109 in nova "nova rest /v2/ call returns v1.1 documentation" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076109 21:48:13 <ttx> is that a milestone-blocking bug ? Or should I defer to g2 if not complete by eod ? 21:48:28 <vishy> ok it is in 21:48:35 <vishy> no not a blocker imo 21:48:40 <ttx> ok thx 21:48:42 <ttx> On the grizzly general plan, I see that your quest for assignees wasn't very successful so far 21:48:49 <ttx> Still planning to send a "take it or it will be H" email about those ? 21:48:55 <ttx> Alternatively you could set them to Low priority to keep them as targets of opportunity 21:49:09 <vishy> ttx: i didn't get a chance to send out the email 21:49:13 <vishy> i will do it today 21:49:14 <ttx> #action vishy to send email about missing blueprint assignees 21:49:32 <vishy> so the only unknown bp is the xenapi volume driver one 21:49:40 <vishy> i don't know if it is complete 21:49:59 <ttx> davidkranz raised a CI issue that seems to point to a Nova problem... any chance you could help him narrow it down ? Or someone else from Nova ? 21:50:28 <vishy> sure 21:50:30 <ttx> will try to contact mate_lakat on that bp status 21:50:33 <davidkranz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 21:50:34 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] 21:50:47 <ttx> because we don't have enough time to investigate it in-meeting 21:51:08 <davidkranz> vishy: We also want to bring stress tests online which is made hard by https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079210 21:51:15 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1079210 in nova "Successful full gate jobs show ERRORs and stacktraces" [Medium,Confirmed] 21:51:27 <ttx> vishy: so in summary, I'll cut MP tomorrow morning from master, unless you tell me otherwise (IRC or email) 21:51:38 <davidkranz> vishy: We can discuss this offline. 21:51:46 <ttx> vishy/others: anything more on Nova ? 21:52:20 <ttx> #action davidkranz and vishy to look into bug 1079210 21:52:20 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1079210 in nova "Successful full gate jobs show ERRORs and stacktraces" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079210 21:52:49 <ttx> #topic Horizon status 21:52:52 <ttx> gabrielhurley: hi! 21:52:55 <gabrielhurley> hey 21:52:56 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:52:58 <gabrielhurley> Blueprints are in the process of merging... I kicked my other core reviewers to go get everything in progress reviewed and hopefully merged (there were 7 that needed a second +2). Most of them will be taken care of shortly. I have three bugs I need to code up today, but the only blocker is the one about the files missing from the tarball. I'll make sure things are ready to go within 24 hours. 21:53:41 <ttx> ok, so I'll wait until EOD tomorrow before cutting MP 21:53:45 <gabrielhurley> thanks 21:54:00 <ttx> note that we can still backport bugfixes between then and "Thursday" 21:54:11 <gabrielhurley> noted, but hopefully not needed 21:54:54 <ttx> we'll talk tomorrow, but is there any bug in that g1 list that is a milestone blocker ? 21:55:02 <gabrielhurley> only the tarball one 21:55:08 <gabrielhurley> and I'll deal with that right now 21:55:09 <ttx> i.e. which I should not just defer to g2 if incomplete by tomorrow eod ? 21:55:12 <ttx> ok 21:55:38 <ttx> Anything more on Horizon ? 21:55:42 <gabrielhurley> one thing 21:55:51 <gabrielhurley> I'll be starting a regular Horizon project IRC meeting like the rest of the projects. Announcement of time will be forthcoming on the ML. 21:56:06 <ttx> cool! more meetings. 21:56:12 <gabrielhurley> iknowright? 21:56:23 <ttx> we should soon need an #openstack-meetings2 room 21:56:26 <gabrielhurley> haha 21:56:33 <ttx> #topic Incubated projects 21:56:38 <ttx> Anyone to talk Ceilometer ? 21:57:12 <eglynn_> nijaba: there? 21:57:14 <ttx> stevebake: still around ? 21:57:19 <stevebake> yep 21:57:25 <ttx> let's do Heat first 21:57:42 <ttx> https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:57:44 <ttx> err 21:57:49 <ttx> Incomplete action item: heat crew to align Launchpad teams with openstack model 21:57:55 <ttx> Let me know if you need help with that, otherwise I'll just postpone that action to next week 21:58:08 <nijaba> ttx o/ 21:58:09 <stevebake> Nothing has really changed since last week. We've changed our meeting time and haven't met at the new time yet 21:58:11 <stevebake> https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-1 21:58:38 <stevebake> ttx: we'll figure out what is outstanding on that and get back to you 21:58:43 <ttx> #action heat crew to align Launchpad teams with openstack model 21:58:48 <ttx> The next step after that would be to move your code repository under openstack/heat 21:58:58 <ttx> you'll have to sync with CI on that 21:59:14 <asalkeld> k, who do we need to chat to? 21:59:17 <stevebake> yep, we can coordinate for the gerrit downtime 21:59:25 <ttx> asalkeld: jeblair 21:59:31 <asalkeld> thanks 21:59:36 <ttx> ok, one minute for ceilometer now :) 21:59:41 <ttx> Incomplete action item: ceilometer crew to pimp up their grizzly roadmap 21:59:44 <eglynn_> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/grizzly-2 21:59:57 <ttx> interesting. 22:00:09 <nijaba> I just finished pimping that up 22:00:13 <ttx> haha 22:00:19 <eglynn_> nijaba has done a good job of getting us with the blueprint program ;) 22:00:20 <ttx> The ceilometer-tarball job looks sane now. You said you would skip g1 milestone ? 22:00:28 <nijaba> yes 22:00:31 <ttx> OK, then I should bump your next milestone to g2 soon 22:00:36 <nijaba> we will join at g2 22:00:41 <ttx> #action ttx to bump ceilometer next milestone to g2 22:01:02 <ttx> I'll review your grizzly roadmap and discuss it at next meeting 22:01:10 <ttx> we need to clear the room now 22:01:21 <ttx> nijaba, stevebake: any question ? 22:01:30 <nijaba> thanks ttx, none here 22:01:32 <ttx> just hit me on IRC any time 22:01:38 <ttx> #endmeeting