19:03:01 <barrett1> #startmeeting Product Working Group
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19:03:06 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group'
19:03:45 <Shamail> roll call via IRC?
19:03:58 <barrett1> Yes, pls
19:04:06 <Shamail> o7
19:04:20 <SheenaG> o/
19:04:22 <barrett1> o/
19:04:27 <DericHorn-HP> Here
19:04:36 <MeganR> o/
19:05:12 <Shamail> Is everyone on the dial-in bridge too?
19:05:25 <SheenaG> No, I don't have the bridge info
19:05:52 <Shamail> Voice: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 1278598
19:05:52 <barrett1> #topic Summary of Board Discussion
19:06:19 <barrett1> Shamail: Can you paste a link to the slides?
19:06:41 <barrett1> #chair Shamail
19:06:42 <openstack> Current chairs: Shamail barrett1
19:06:52 <MeganR> I will join the bridge in a moment, finishing another meeting
19:07:03 <Shamail> #link https://my.syncplicity.com/share/tfqzoyoisbd6wdd/Product%20WG%20BoD%20Update%20-%20July%202015%20draft%2015
19:07:20 <Shamail> Slides that were presented to the Board of Directors last week
19:08:05 <barrett1> Good discussion, Board was looking to understand the details of how we’re engaging with other work groups, and understanding the timeline for actiions
19:08:32 <Shamail> The need for the objectives being tackled by our team were validated by the board.  We got a new action item as well, Rocky will be working with Monty to show how Gerrit might work for voting on user stories.
19:09:41 <geoffarnold> Missed the role call - here!
19:09:58 <kencjohnston> I did as well. Here!
19:10:05 <Shamail> We also introduced the new objective for recognition of devs working to close user stories and everyone agreed with the concept (although we didn't share implementation details)
19:10:50 <barrett1> Monty was really engaged in the discussions and provided some thoughts on how the OpenStack infrastructure can support our process/plans. He also plans to write some user stories
19:11:31 <stephenwalli> Morning All
19:11:44 <Shamail> Hi stephenwalli
19:11:48 <barrett1> The Board proposed to add a PWG session to the joint TC/Board meeting in Tokyo
19:11:53 <Shamail> we are using IRC + a bridge
19:12:00 <Shamail> Voice: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 1278598
19:12:11 <stephenwalli> On the bridge … being quiet … thx, Shamail
19:13:23 <Rockyg> o/
19:13:38 <Shamail> hi Rockyg
19:13:42 <Shamail> Voice: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 1278598
19:13:49 <Shamail> ^ bridge we are using...
19:15:08 <barrett1> Cross project, cross-release focus was also confirmed.
19:15:57 <barrett1> We need to bring a more detailed proposal on recognition to the Board for a deeper discussion
19:18:00 <barrett1> Stackalytics is now being maintained by the Foundation and may be an element to support a recoginition program
19:20:14 <barrett1> #topic User Story Repo Update
19:20:28 <Shamail> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208260/
19:20:52 <Shamail> #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-user-stories
19:22:17 <barrett1> The 1st patch establishing our Repo has been merged
19:22:43 <barrett1> The 2nd patch establishing permissions,etc are in the process of being reviewed and hopefully merged
19:22:46 <barrett1> Thanks Shamail!
19:25:09 <barrett1> The intention is to have 1 repo for all User Stories, whether they are written by people in this team or others in the community
19:26:41 <barrett1> We need to work with the Telco WG to decide how to avoid duplication, and make sure their user stories get included in this repo some way
19:27:33 <barrett1> Need to work out the directory structure of our repo - which hopefully makes it easier to include Telco WG user stories
19:30:25 <barrett1> #action Shamail: review the proposed directory structure with Steve Gordon and find an approach that works to integrate the Telco WG user stories into the repo
19:30:44 <Arkady_Kanevsky> Should we create setup which genereate docs automatically - doc-publisher-site: docs.openstack.org
19:31:57 <Arkady_Kanevsky> Second question: is on translation that kicks i18n jobs by specifying project - translation-jobs
19:32:22 <Shamail> Arkady_Kanevsky: good point
19:32:36 <barrett1> Developer documentation would be helpful and making the user stories easy for developers to find is a bonus
19:32:41 <Shamail> We have not specified a translation-jobs under our project today
19:33:12 <barrett1> #action: RockyG configure the Repo so that developer documents are automatically generated
19:33:58 <barrett1> Our user stories will be treated like specs
19:35:51 <Shamail> #action Arkady_Kanevsky will check on whether i18n is applicable to specs and how to invoke the job
19:37:13 <barrett1> We need to be able to review User Stories next week to stay on track for design summit work
19:38:34 <barrett1> Based upon this, we're going to move forward with creating a Google Folder and using that as the location for everyone to post their user stories
19:39:12 <barrett1> #action: Carol to send out the Google Folder link to the ML and include the current template in the folder
19:39:28 <Shamail> Rockyg and I will update if the repo comes into existence before next week
19:39:38 <barrett1> #topic Timeline for Posting Stores
19:39:50 <stephenwalli> ‘Fraid I have to drop … I’ll catch up in notes/minutes ….
19:40:11 <Shamail> #Action Shamail will post instructions on how to submit a patch using the user story template to the repo (once it goes live)
19:40:56 <geoffarnold> +1
19:41:13 <barrett1> All user stories, for this cycle, should be placed in Google Folder by the next team meeting. We'll call whatever we have the 1st set of stories
19:43:23 <barrett1> If all of the User Stories are posted by 8/10, then we'd like to have an extended  team meeting for review discussion and identify consolidation of user stories
19:44:07 <Shamail> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpQ1PjyCqbtTIKUbPESp3AbdjUSuIP7GVjda6Cy0EY8/edit?usp=sharing
19:44:14 <Shamail> Current User Story Template
19:44:45 <barrett1> #action: RockyG to send out Doodle to find times slote for a 2 hr meeting next week
19:46:45 <barrett1> We need to decide when we want to have prioritization complete?
19:47:24 <barrett1> We would like to have prioritized User Stories, reviewed with the cross-project team before taking to Ops Meet-up
19:47:32 <barrett1> timing will be a challenge. :)
19:48:19 <barrett1> It's also viable to review the Prioritized list with the Operators, integrate their feedback, then take to the cross-project team
19:49:39 <Shamail> +1
19:52:19 <geoffarnold> IRC or Etherpad?
19:53:12 <Shamail> IRC
19:53:47 <barrett1> Plan going forward will be to reivew/consolidate and complete 1st pass prioritization ahead of the Ops Meet-up
19:54:04 <barrett1> Implication of this is we're going to need 2 working session next week
19:55:55 <barrett1> From there, we want to get time on the 8/18 Cross Project team meeting, invite the Operators at the Mid-cycle meet-up to join, for the purpose of discussing next steps for advancing the top 1 or 2 uses cases.
19:59:28 <Shamail> Time check barrett1
19:59:47 <barrett1> Thanks Shamail
20:02:50 <Arkady_Kanevsky> need to drop, team
20:02:51 <Shamail> I'm going to drop off, conflict.  Sorry.
20:04:21 <barrett1> #action: RockyG, Carol ask for time 8/18 Cross-Project team meeting to preview a high priority user story and start the dialog aorund translating that from a user story into developer actionable items.
20:07:53 <barrett1> #endmeeting