16:00:13 #startmeeting oslo 16:00:13 courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, 16:00:13 courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, spamaps 16:00:13 Meeting started Mon Dec 21 16:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:00:15 courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek, gcb 16:00:17 The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' 16:00:18 Anyone here today? 16:00:20 :) 16:00:25 o/ 16:00:25 hi 16:00:36 Oddly enough I'm kind of here... since there's no open schools for me to be taking kids to ;) 16:00:44 yoooo 16:00:48 hi 16:00:52 o/ 16:00:53 haha SpamapS 16:01:03 hi bknudson_ jecarey rpodolyaka gcb 16:01:16 o/ 16:01:22 hi bogdando 16:01:35 hopefully a quick one today 16:01:37 #topic Red flags for/from liaisons 16:01:47 nothing for keystone 16:02:28 thanks bknudson_ 16:02:31 #topic Releases for Mitaka 16:02:31 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259707/ 16:03:16 ^ looks ok to me 16:03:28 rpodolyaka : can you please eye ball the oslo.db changes? see the list-changes job output 16:03:29 nothing will break this week! 16:03:38 dims: looking 16:03:53 bknudson_ :) 16:03:59 bknudson_, nothing ever breaks, obviously :) 16:04:23 harlowja_at_home : i deliberatly held back the oslo.utils review for the timeutils stuff 16:04:28 kk 16:04:33 good idear 16:04:36 dims_: oslo.db changes look good to me 16:05:00 dims_, sorry for the newbie question, what is list-changes job output? 16:05:11 harlowja_at_home : bknudson_ : https://travis-ci.org/dims/ looks green except for a nova py34 break that happens only in travis (need to dig into it) 16:05:16 dims_, do u know if there is any ongoing infra change or something to start to highlight depreciation warnings in some manner? 16:05:29 did that whole conversation as what to do about depreciation warnings go anywhere? 16:05:39 rbradfor : look in the review link above look for "gate-releases-tox-list-changes" job 16:05:48 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259707/ 16:05:50 rbradfor, http://logs.openstack.org/07/259707/3/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes/f7993cc/console.html 16:06:01 dims_, gcb, got it, thanks. 16:06:20 harlowja_at_home : not that i heard about. we'll have to kick start something, probably based on the keystone mode 16:06:22 model 16:06:27 right 16:06:42 i'd even be happy with like a alternate log file that depreciation warnings go to 16:06:52 that shows up in CI, and people can go look at... 16:07:11 *similar to all the other log files produced from CI runs 16:07:11 harlowja_at_home : that may be an easy thing to pull off 16:07:26 ya, might not be so hard 16:07:41 let's find a pattern we can follow 16:07:51 def 16:07:52 #topic Open discussion 16:07:52 Any other stuck reviews? 16:08:33 rbradfor : if you see the travis link, that shows us running a bunch of py27,py34 tests by inserting oslo.* from master 16:08:35 the work queue spec? 16:08:41 dims_: hi, when we can add mutlinode grenade gate for zmq? 16:08:54 dims_: how can I help with that? 16:09:16 ozamiatin_ : whenever you are ready, need to figure out how to do that :) 16:09:46 dims_, thanks, looking at the output. helps me understand the weekly release process. 16:10:03 bogdando : so are you happy with what you have there in the spec? 16:10:07 dims_: ok, I'll look into it :) 16:10:09 yes 16:10:19 dims_, added example flow for a call 16:10:21 bogdando : do we need to outline the API in the spec or we can do that later? 16:10:23 addressed comments 16:10:39 That depends on how deep we go in specs 16:11:14 IMO, all API details should be outside 16:11:36 as you suggested for example https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-messaging-work-queue-api 16:11:36 bogdando : looks like some traffic in etherpad 16:11:38 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-messaging-work-queue-api 16:11:46 so i'll cast my +2 on the spec 16:11:50 thank you 16:12:03 dims, harlowja_at_home> what's the right process if our new version of oslo lib breaks other projects ? just block the version in g-r ? 16:12:29 gcb : we block in g-r, cut a new release with a fix 16:12:50 sometimes we cut a new release first since g-r takes a while 16:13:29 harlowja_at_home : gcb : ozamiatin_ : please cast your vote on the work queue spec too 16:13:35 you mean , fix and submit a commit in openstack/release firstly ? 16:13:37 anyone else who is interested as well 16:14:11 gcb : yes, fix in say oslo.messaging, submit a commit in releases/ repo and then submit a commit in requirements/ repo 16:14:11 will look at the spec :-) 16:14:26 thanks gcb : it has a long history 16:14:50 dims_ , got it ,thanks 16:14:57 dims_ bogdando ya, hmmm that one :-P i'm somewhat biased to say just move the taskflow jobboard concept to tooz and then poof, this whole spec sorta isn't needed (afaik) 16:15:09 so i'm refraining from my biased vote :-P 16:16:00 harlowja_at_home : let's see how it shakes out...right now i am saying "yes, we want/need it" :) 16:16:17 ya, fair enough, idk how it will all shake out yet either 16:16:48 gcb : do you want to take that timeutils up with the nova folks? 16:17:50 yes, so I need talk with nova guys in IRC and submit new commit , right ? 16:18:01 harlowja, at least the failure modes and contracts might come in handy 16:18:16 gcb : yes please, i'd say just submit a new commit first and then talk to them 16:18:16 harlowja, that is how things should have been designed for RPC 16:18:21 bogdando, agreed 16:18:41 dims_ , ok, will do that 16:18:52 so can we skip next week's meeting? 16:19:14 meet next on Jan 4th? 16:19:22 I think most of you are in holiday :-) 16:19:44 that's the best time to work :P 16:19:50 I'm ok with skipping next meeting 16:19:51 haha 16:19:55 dims_: ok to skip 16:20:27 sureee 16:20:34 rpodolyaka : gcb : +1 and the CI would be all ours too 16:20:48 :) 16:21:01 cool. 16:21:11 any other things we need to talk about? 16:21:41 harlowja_at_home : you and me can poke on the deprecation stuff on infra 16:21:50 dims_, def 16:22:01 dims_, I have a few log/config/service specific questions. I'll bring up in oslo channel. 16:22:07 rbradfor : ack 16:23:00 so Wish everyone happy holidays and a very happy new year as well. (Russia/Ukraine - we'll wish you again next month :) 16:23:13 :) 16:23:31 :) 16:23:34 thanks everyone 16:23:39 np! 16:23:48 #endmeeting