14:04:39 <mihalis68_> #startmeeting ops-meetup-team
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14:04:42 <mihalis68_> o/
14:04:44 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'
14:04:56 <mihalis68_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team
14:05:54 <smcginnis> o/
14:06:02 <mihalis68_> ping spotz, emccormick, mihalis68_, VW_, smcginnis, shintaro
14:06:10 <spotz> o/
14:06:48 <mihalis68_> sorry we didn't have a meeting last week after saying we'd try. we had some emergencies going on at work and I think many others were wrapped up
14:07:06 <mihalis68_> we have the summit and ptg coming up
14:07:13 <mihalis68_> For the summit I put in for two sessions
14:07:36 <mihalis68_> one general ops stuff - pain points upgrades tooling etc. the usual "work"
14:07:50 <mihalis68_> and then the other ops war stories (lightning talk) - the usual "play"
14:08:08 <smcginnis> With no travel planning, it seems weird that those events are just weeks away.
14:08:14 <mihalis68_> and I also put some slots in for the ptg on the last two days
14:09:08 <mihalis68_> yeah
14:09:20 <mihalis68_> I wanted to see who thinks they can help out with these for the ops sessions
14:09:41 <spotz> I can't keep track of time without travel. At least doing some stuff with the animals outside
14:09:50 <mihalis68_> I need to block out my calendar more specifically than just "in vancouver" or whatever I've done in the past
14:10:01 <smcginnis> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24772/ops-issues
14:10:11 <smcginnis> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24773/ops-war-stories-lightning-talks
14:11:06 <spotz> I've got git an gerrit Wednesday morning so can't:(
14:11:07 <mihalis68_> great, thanks Sean
14:12:20 <mihalis68_> I think I can run the summit things. I optimistically put in for 4 slots on two days for the PTG. If it's going to be me running them I might scale back
14:12:40 <mihalis68_> erik seems to be pretty much offline recently
14:12:53 <smcginnis> The good thing about the PTG format is it's not like we will be wasting a room and preventing others from using it if we end up not having enough to talk about.
14:13:54 <mihalis68_> I wonder if we should move this "slot" for the weekly. It's obviously not working for erik
14:14:14 <smcginnis> We could do a poll again and see if there is a better time for everyone now.
14:14:25 <smcginnis> Everyone's schedules have definitely shifted since we landed on this time.
14:14:33 <mihalis68_> yeah, I don't worry about wasting a room, just should be up-front about how much "content" we'll have it's a sole proprietor deal this time
14:14:49 <smcginnis> Yeah
14:16:43 <mihalis68_> I can throw up a poll, but it's hard to get suggestions for a better time from a  multiple choice poll without it becoming unwiedly
14:17:37 <smcginnis> Especially just coming back from a long break - maybe we should stick with this timeslot for awhile and then see if we actually get some momentum going again if folks think it's worth reevaluating.
14:17:39 <mihalis68_> how about "For those interested in ops meetups a) keep 10 am EST b) decide a new time slot via the mailing list"
14:17:52 <mihalis68_> or that!
14:18:22 <spotz> hehe
14:18:37 <smcginnis> I'm just afraid some of the past folks that cared might not even realize yet that things have started up again.
14:18:53 <smcginnis> So if we did a poll now, we may miss out on some good input from people that actually do care.
14:18:58 <mihalis68_> I was due to fire up the twitter cannon again but didn't do that
14:19:22 <mihalis68_> how about I use those summit slots to get attention and then in that thread ask for input on when to have this meeting?
14:19:31 <mihalis68_> that seems to be the single best communication outlet
14:19:47 <smcginnis> ++
14:20:02 <mihalis68_> ok
14:20:11 <spotz> Yeah we can definitely ask at the end of each session who's interested in joining the group and then we ask everyone for a good time?
14:20:32 <spotz> Even plugging the PTG session where we can discuss the time slot as a topic:)
14:20:49 <mihalis68_> I can make a separate ethernet pad for the team, meeting slot, recurrence etc
14:21:10 <smcginnis> Love it when a plan comes together.
14:21:13 <mihalis68_> ok seems like a plan
14:22:01 <mihalis68_> the other topic that has been kicking around is adapting to the current situation by changing the idea of meetups from 2-day co-located events to frequent brief topic-based sessions - "Ops Radio" as I called it
14:22:13 <spotz> Right now we're just NA and APAC but that could change and affect a time choice if we get EMEA folks
14:22:17 <smcginnis> I do like that idea.
14:22:25 <mihalis68_> but I think we need just a little bit more momentum and engagement
14:22:41 <mihalis68_> perhaps see if there's interest in that from those that attend summit and/or ptg
14:22:52 <smcginnis> For me personally, I've found it easier to attend shorter online events than trying to block out whole days or half days.
14:23:05 <smcginnis> Agree, the summit/ptg could be a great venue to try to get some interest in that.
14:23:19 <spotz> I know our streams are doing good at work, it's just hard to get topics sometimes. Maybe once a quarter or something?
14:23:40 <mihalis68_> I was think an hour monthly
14:23:45 <mihalis68_> *thinking
14:23:52 <spotz> And then if things get back to normal we could do a mix of live and virtual
14:23:53 <mihalis68_> or even weekly
14:24:08 <mihalis68_> I mean, I sometimes lose an hour accidentally deep-diving some interest
14:24:26 <mihalis68_> doing a jitsi session on openstack ops would be at least as properly work related
14:24:30 <spotz> mihalis68_: See what topics and speakers you can line up then figure out the cadence
14:24:35 <smcginnis> We could ask for feedback on that too. The great thing about this is as long as we can find someone that wants to talk, we can have these as frequently as there is content to give.
14:25:01 <mihalis68_> yeah I think it has a lot of potential
14:25:21 <smcginnis> Our local python user group has been doing monthly virtual events with one or two talks each time. The format has been working well. I could see that working just as well for ops topics.
14:25:30 <mihalis68_> ok. Anything else for this meeting? I think I'd like to finish early and use the time to get on the twitter
14:25:41 <mihalis68_> that's great feedback, thanks Sean
14:25:54 <spotz> I'm good, also doing a webinar for work:)
14:26:06 <mihalis68_> I might work on my home setup a bit. I hear real microphones are back in stock
14:26:20 <smcginnis> Glad I bought a Blue Yeti way back.
14:26:21 <mihalis68_> not that I want to be doing videoconferencing instead of meetups, but no choice right now
14:26:38 <mihalis68_> one of the guys on our team has a setup that I think joe rogan would like
14:26:40 <spotz> I've got a Rode:)
14:26:49 <smcginnis> Yep, we can only try to make the best of the situation. REally hoping we can meetup in person again some time next year.
14:26:50 <mihalis68_> huge broadcast quality mic on a swing arm
14:27:29 <mihalis68_> we can make something happen in north america, if it still exists
14:27:30 <spotz> I will say having a good mic system means no one but me generally hears the dogs doing stuff:)
14:27:40 <smcginnis> mihalis68_: ;)
14:27:54 <mihalis68_> thanks for justifing my gear lust
14:28:33 <mihalis68_> ok good deal, thanks all
14:28:35 <mihalis68_> last call
14:28:44 <smcginnis> Nothing from me.
14:28:49 <spotz> I'm good
14:28:57 <mihalis68_> #endmeeting