14:59:16 #startmeeting ops-meetup-team 14:59:17 Meeting started Tue Feb 26 14:59:16 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:59:22 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' 14:59:24 o/ if anything is needed - mainly wondering if i need to share the reg list with anyone? 14:59:33 how many do we have? 14:59:43 18 14:59:45 o/ 15:00:33 disappointing turnout 15:00:45 o/ 15:01:06 I don't know if Frank has plans to make badges for the attendees 15:01:33 I can go get some plastic holders from staples if needed and just bring them with me 15:01:36 18 does seem pretty low. I was hoping with the area and things this would have ended up a larger event. 15:02:00 people somewhat near can still opt to buy a ticket and attend 15:02:02 but yeah 15:03:31 aprice i think it would be good to share the registration list with the hosts, frank kloeker and nils magnus (see the attendees listed here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup) 15:03:52 if they need help with badges they can reach out. Nothing fancy is required 15:04:17 mihalis68_ ok, can do 15:04:18 Morning 15:04:25 g'morning spotz 15:04:37 we only have 18 attendees for next week, kinda disappointing 15:05:13 I still can’t believe it’s next week:( 15:05:14 we have a good selection of topics listed on the planning etherpad, but haven't converted those into an agenda just yet 15:05:19 Unfortunately, I couldn't make it this time. But I'm sending two members from my team. 15:05:26 understood 15:05:42 #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 15:05:54 you can see two etherpads I made for topics I'm offering to moderate 15:06:09 still pretty short on topic choices 15:06:35 thanks for getting yours together chris. I'll try and do a couple today. 15:07:00 I think we will need to work on the agenda by email between now and next week. I'm suggesting we work through topics that have moderators that will be there and submit them to the mailing list when they have an etherpad and unless there's objections build up the list of approved items that way 15:07:17 I'm going to break out the container thing into two. One will be general deployment tools talk, and the other can be running containers / k8s on openstack 15:07:24 a topic with some +1s, a moderator who will be there and an etherpad seems "well formed" 15:07:30 +1 15:08:22 oh good, we got 2 more moderator volunteers. So we're up to 4 :/ 15:08:22 aprice can the foundation repeat the tweets and whatnot about next week's event? It's within reach for locals still, if a bit of a stretch for people from north america and/or apac to book now 15:08:32 but it was always intended to be mostly for the folks in europe 15:09:43 others with social media reach of any level should also retweet the event. There could well be people who book later than me even 15:10:10 sean for example has a decently high profile amongst the target audience 15:10:32 I don't know if targetted messages to the european operators went out, not being one myself 15:10:39 Not sure about that, but I've just tweeted about it again. 15:12:11 is everyone ok with the proposed process for agreeing the topics? 15:12:43 Yes 15:13:04 ++ 15:13:08 +1 15:13:22 I'm going to try and pull together popular topics, start etherpads, see if the volunteers are comfortable with them and make a talk list. In the past we did make a fixed agenda, but it's quite hard to do. With 18 we can perhaps just work from the list and get through them as seems natural 15:13:34 a style inspired by PTG, even if we don't have a bot and irc! 15:13:38 yes 15:14:07 You'll have the mihalis68_bot 15:14:12 #action mihalis68 to pull together the agenda and try to get moderators for topics. Approval is via mailing the openstack-discuss list with well-formed talks 15:14:31 oh... yes... him 15:15:58 make sure Frank knows so he doesn't order food for 100 *heh* 15:16:11 other than final arrangements with the hosts (attendee list and badges) and the technical agenda, the only other thing I had for today's meeting is to say that there will not be this meeting next week, as at least two of us will be in transit 15:16:14 with 18 we could just order pizza 15:16:48 any other business for this here meeting? There is a lot to do but not so much to discuss here, I'd say 15:16:55 well by 10am EDT I'll be firmly in place in Berlin 15:17:08 We can have it at a biergarten 15:17:23 I can't promise, as I suspect I might be trying to nap 15:17:39 You know what 18 might be a good number for? 15:17:51 An Ops Guide sprint 15:18:05 Hah, I like how you think. ;) 15:18:08 That would be nice 15:18:17 there might be 19, since I haven't booked yet (trying to find a hotel) 15:18:29 hi Artem, glad you're joining us! 15:18:41 gtema Super. Look forward to seeing you 15:18:50 We were in berlin in late 2018 and anything near the train line seems to work really well 15:18:53 Yeah hotels are a little dicey. I'm over by Alexanderplatz 15:19:09 fortunately I learned the trains last time I was there so it's not too scary ;) 15:19:11 the train was frequent, cheap, and with google maps I was able to use it without any german-language skills 15:19:14 I had great luck with an Airbnb for the Summit. 15:19:23 Air in Berlin was near the zoo and family run 15:20:30 idea: put the agenda into first 1.5 days, call day 2 afternoon a sprint. This allows some people to slope off earlier if they are traveling (energy tends to lag by day 2 afternoon) 15:21:29 oh, and I finally figured out why the hotels are so pricey 15:21:35 competing event? 15:21:38 And I blame a friend of mine 15:21:42 ITB 2019 15:21:46 big travel show 15:21:48 yes - Travel Messe 15:22:00 and a friend of mine from here does those things. 15:22:20 Nice that she'll be there at the same time, but damnit it's made everything wicked pricey 15:23:04 good to know, but we do have the efficient public transport helping connect the venue with affordable hotels 15:23:08 and +1 to the 1.5 days -> sprint 15:23:24 Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. 15:23:32 yep. Also it gets cheaper later in the week, so my extended stay will cost half what the first 2 days will 15:23:37 I will sketch out a 2-day agenda once we have the popular topics "built" 15:23:40 blessedly 15:24:00 Good to have some flexible time too to be able to adjust for the actual audience that shows up. 15:24:19 #action mihalis68 to find out from Frank about badges. If necessary I'll make them and bring them 15:24:45 I actually have the emergency backup ones I bought for CDMX I think 15:25:07 will dig in my drawer and see if that's so 15:25:48 gtema if you need help with arrangements for berlin, the hosts have been very helpful with answering general questions. I can connect you with them if you want advice on anything 15:26:12 I know Frank - we work in "same" company 15:26:21 ah, ok perfect! 15:26:40 but prices and vacant places are a problem 15:26:55 "company budget limits" 15:27:12 understood. Unfortunately the ops meetups team can only work with offers, including dates, that we receive 15:27:21 this was the offer 15:27:31 I see airbnbs from ~$100 USD 15:27:54 so like..90 EUR? 15:28:19 My apartment was huge and relatively cheap for the summit. 15:28:44 "unfortunately" Telekom has partnership with lots of hotels and special prices (up to 75€) and everything above need a very special approval 15:28:56 hi jamesmcarthur, can the foundation push out announcements about this event next week again? I realise it's late but there may be some potential last-minute attendees, especially regional 15:29:29 mihalis68_ I'll talk to aprice and see what we can do :) 15:29:37 greatly appreciated as always 15:29:53 np! how are the numbers looking so far? 15:29:58 around 20 15:30:04 low but workable 15:30:50 mihalis_ we have it in the newsletter for this week and can plan to continue to promote on social media as well 15:31:13 great! 15:31:56 ill also keep yall updated if there are any registration spikes 15:32:02 yes, please 15:32:20 I was gonna suggest my hotel and 6/7 are the only days sold out:( 15:35:24 the place I stayed at had apartments for reasonable hotel rates. Mine was for up to 4 people. Maybe companies sending multiple people can double up in such places 15:36:17 That place is like $250 / night right now. When we stayed there it was $80 ;) 15:36:26 eeep 15:36:59 darn 15:37:05 Hotel: ADAGIO BERLIN KURFURSTENDAMM just for the record 15:37:39 behind and attached to ABBA hotel 15:37:52 well, it's kind of set now 15:38:03 yep :). OFf we go! 15:38:13 anything else need covering? 15:38:15 any other business? Else we can get back to making some more etherpads and volunteering people to own them 15:38:51 last call 15:39:19 alright... thanks all, see some you in person next week! 15:39:22 #endmeeting