15:03:55 #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team 15:03:56 Meeting started Tue Apr 18 15:03:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:03:59 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team' 15:04:19 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 15:05:15 izaakk you here? 15:05:21 #topic review last weeks actions 15:05:44 o/ 15:05:55 awesome :) 15:05:56 mrhillsman to work on getting moderators for boston forum where needed 15:06:18 was that done? 15:07:06 Shamail from UC sent email due to me being a bit disoriented from osic news 15:07:19 and some classes 15:07:29 so yes, that effort has started 15:07:57 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bMVeKmYe/ 15:08:08 product working group geared to help in that effort as well 15:08:10 I sent a combined email covering most of that to the operators list 15:08:45 When I reviewed the ether pad for mexico, I realized that there doesn't seem to be an actual hosting organization, is that right? 15:08:48 I think we have enough folks for a vote 15:09:08 I mention this now because I wasn't sure if the mexican proposal has all the info that is expected 15:09:28 hmmm I thought Intel was the host? 15:09:38 maybe I'm too out of the loop 15:09:39 Intel bailed out of this entirely 15:09:52 that was the oregon idea, now gone 15:09:56 Mexico City is actually behind it 15:10:06 instead there is now a proposal for mexico 15:10:19 ah, I thought it just moved from one Intel site to another. 15:10:32 izaakk are you representing the mexican proposal? 15:10:36 izaakk from Intel has been pushing it so Intel has not really nailed 15:10:40 bailed 15:10:51 there was a misstep on someone's part 15:10:56 the oregon proposal definitely cratered though 15:11:07 causing it to fall through 15:11:23 they did not follow internal process 15:11:26 to be blunt, there was plenty of time to pick that up, in fact there still ius 15:11:51 I know that one employee left who was our contact but intel is a big corp 15:12:02 apologies if I did not provide an appropriate update at the time 15:12:11 * med_ notes that Colorado isn't hosting that the PTG is here and will welcome any Ops to the PTG with open arms. 15:13:07 so who put up the google docs for Mexico proposal? 15:13:20 I'm aware of the OSIC news but not really of the actual impact, to be honest. I know intel is appearing in boston, but is that just "too late to ditch" 15:13:33 Hey, it's people from Openstack Mexico community 15:14:05 They will join next meeting 15:14:21 mihalis68 neither Intel nor Rackspace are pulling out of OpenStack efforts only the OSIC partnership is dissolved 15:14:23 what can that group provide and what would have to be found otherwise? Items include venue rental, lunch, possibly breakfast too, signage, badges 15:14:39 ok thanks for clarifying 15:15:09 I'm the point of contact for any questions on that 15:15:26 We are at the point where we should choose a venue and go from there 15:15:46 note: attendees please add your name to the list here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 15:15:53 (attendees to this IRC meeting, I mean) 15:16:20 izaakk can you answer my questions above? 15:17:08 That group is a few volunteers knocking does on people willing to sponsor space 15:17:18 They are just helping with logistics 15:17:42 Understood. I think for this to be voted on, the expectation is that at least venue rental is spoken for 15:18:02 +1 15:18:18 So far, and I don't want to be harsh, I think we do not have a firm proposal 15:18:44 what do other people think? 15:18:54 #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NdMCOTPP_ZmeF2Ak1mQB1bCOFHDkA5P2l6n6kdb8Kls/edit# 15:19:01 so we should review this 15:19:10 proposal 15:19:48 We have those options, we need to choose to formalize 15:20:58 mihalis68 I believe venue is taken care of based on what I read 15:21:09 izaakk can clarify 15:21:38 I think there are just stipulations around content presented 15:22:08 such as? 15:22:15 I don't see them in the google doc 15:22:31 Probably having a workshop 15:22:42 Is the only one 15:22:51 is the normal content of an operators meet up all acceptable? 15:22:59 Yes 15:23:14 can you help me understand how there are multiple free venues? 15:23:16 "TelmexHub is a totally free option, they only demand that there wasn’t marketing or sale or products in the event." 15:23:50 so these are government or industry subsidized to promote mexico/mexico city in the high-tech area? 15:23:54 This are provided by foundations to cloud or tech events 15:24:03 Exactly 15:24:35 Maybe I have been in the USA too long, but something free like this makes me cautious 15:24:43 I can't help feel like you always pay 15:25:06 taxes ;) 15:25:13 is this like free co-working space? 15:25:45 I understand, and we will get more info once we choose. One of the venues told them last time that they told us that providing a workshop is enough to justify the use of the space 15:26:30 Which I think is a good thing anyways 15:26:34 Ok. let's see if we can get some consensus 15:26:45 are both venues acceptable to those here on this meeting? +1 if so 15:27:08 +1 15:27:12 +1 15:27:20 the max sizes are 150 for Digital Culture Center and 200 for Telmex Hub 15:27:21 +1 15:27:24 +1 15:28:04 izaakk: do you know how many small rooms in both venues? 15:28:33 I can get that info if is not in the doc today 15:28:35 ok. So we seem to have two venues acceptable to this meeting both in Mexico City 15:29:06 the doc says "yes" for small rooms but not the numbers 15:29:16 right. I don't see any more info on those anywhere in the doc 15:29:49 Is there an advantage in travel and/or accommodation to either of the choices? 15:30:17 Let's make a list of questions you have about the venue and I'll try to get in touch and answer them today if the info is not in the doc 15:30:27 works for me +1 15:30:35 +1 15:30:42 +1 15:30:58 second request for todays meeting attendees to add their names to the list here : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team 15:31:27 I can do more research on the places, as Mexican and also as ex-citizen of Mexico City I can provide details on which place will make more sense 15:31:33 #info the meeting agrees both Digital Culture Center and Telmex Hub appear acceptable for the august mid-cycle operators meet up 15:31:44 that would be great emagana, thank you 15:32:10 as we have done before, izaakk can you start thread with shintaro and mihalis68 and anyone else interested in inquiry or helping solidify Midcycle items 15:32:43 I propose we get updated final info on both venues to the mailing list this week (by Friday) in preparation for a vote this time next week on which venue. If we accept a venue then by implication mexico "wins" :) 15:32:48 + emagana to that thread 15:33:04 please +1 if you agree with a vote next time we meet 15:33:06 will do mrhillsman 15:33:15 ty sir 15:33:34 +1 on vote 15:33:41 +1 from me obviously 15:33:48 +1 15:33:55 +1 15:33:59 +1 15:34:28 Ok. #mihalis68 to email the operators mailing list notifying them that we intend to vote on accepting a mexico city venue for the mid-cycle next week 15:34:52 +1 15:35:16 ok, we covered actions and quite a bit about mexico, any more on those? 15:35:28 #topic Boston 15:35:36 how's this going? 15:35:59 F'd'n just sent another blast-o-gram out trying to get folks to attend. 15:36:03 last we met, we were simply lacking some moderators. We saw above that's underway 15:36:14 schedule has been sent via MLs and posted to summit schedule 15:36:30 do you have the link handy? 15:36:52 moderator list posted and request to confirm/volunteer 15:38:22 https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Forum 15:38:29 Thanks! 15:38:54 who here will be in Boston? 15:38:56 welcome sir 15:39:03 o/ 15:39:08 o/ 15:39:10 o/ 15:39:16 o/ 15:39:31 excellent 15:40:30 I just restored a couple of agenda items from last week just in case anyone wished to discuss them 15:40:39 themed mid cycles and regional events 15:41:06 for those not following along, themed mid-cycles was an idea to mold mid-cycles to the region 15:41:12 I have been wondering if a global Midcycle may work 15:41:26 so for example if a mid-cycle was in Wash DC it might be openstack in government 15:41:35 oh, yes, let's start there :) 15:41:36 do we need a theme for Mexico? 15:41:43 hpc 15:42:00 I'll be honest, I don't know much about what the openstack community in mexico uses it for 15:42:03 is very popular for them from what I was told 15:42:17 but maybe we need to do some research 15:42:28 That was on Guadalajara, in Mexico city there is bigger enterprise adoption mrhillsman 15:42:34 ah ok 15:42:43 seems like a question to be added to the "questions for the mexico hosts" list 15:42:48 and I think the team is helping us with the venues may provide more info about it 15:42:52 along with rooms, travel, accommodation differences 15:43:03 Ok, let's take this to an email discussion 15:43:04 mihalis68: +1 15:43:26 +1 15:43:49 do you mean let the host select the theme? 15:43:58 we can provide info to all operators on whether the mexico city openstack gathering has a sufficiently clear theme to be worth us adopting it in the "marketing material" and/or name of event 15:44:27 what I think is most beneficial about these as I voiced from the beginning is the targeting 15:44:33 as mentioned, Wash DC would have an obvious theme, it has been suggested. I honestly don't know for Mexico City, however 15:44:49 +1 sounds great 15:44:50 yeah if you have a theme you can go after specific communities with your outreach efforts 15:45:08 and would help OpenStack as a whole 15:45:38 #info 15 minutes left 15:46:14 I propose a decision on themed or not is made next week. Izaakk told us some more of the mexico city community will join us next week, right? 15:46:16 I'll start thread around this 15:46:30 mihalis68: correct 15:46:42 #action mrhillsman to initiate email thread on operators mailing list around whether to theme the august event 15:46:49 start a thread and i'll include the Mexico city team 15:46:52 for example "openstack adoption in the Enterprise" 15:46:57 Great, thanks! 15:47:09 awesome 15:47:16 #topic regional events 15:47:35 I just remembered I had an action once to update the official operators wiki pages with a page or pages about regional events 15:47:46 tssk tssk. Not done 15:48:02 hehe 15:48:13 ah yes 15:48:13 #action mihalis68 to make a page to pull together all operators events (forum, mid-cycle and regional events too) 15:48:31 Ok. We have covered the agenda items I put up 15:48:39 anyone else wish to bring up a topic? 15:49:11 none from me 15:49:17 I will put on agenda for next week but I'd really like to see more participation around all things Ops from everyone 15:49:50 so just some brainstorming on how 15:49:59 I feel that an accepted proposal for mexico city will be a nice thing to start getting word out about 15:50:35 having been to the US, Canada, Japan and Spain for openstack events I'm excited to meet the next new community 15:51:00 +1 15:51:05 same here 15:51:46 I feel like linking together the events this team plans and other events might break down some walls 15:51:49 hence my action 15:51:58 I find the openstack wiki quite a nice one 15:52:06 easy to learn, nice visual results 15:52:13 worth putting in some work 15:52:27 compared to ether pad and google docs which are always very chaotic in my opinion 15:52:42 I am just persuading myself to get the work done I promised here :) 15:53:07 we can put promotion of the openstack operators on the agenda for next week if you like mrhillsman 15:53:42 maybe we need some new recruits given that fifieldt seems to be AWOL and all the backspace and OSIC folks are at the very least dealing with reorgs 15:54:31 last call or we can finish 5 minutes early this week 15:54:53 ok. We're done. See you all next week here, same time, same place. 15:54:54 #endmeeting