15:03:55 <mihalis68> #startmeeting Ops Meetup Team
15:03:56 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Apr 18 15:03:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mihalis68. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:03:59 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'ops_meetup_team'
15:04:19 <mihalis68> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team
15:05:15 <mrhillsman> izaakk you here?
15:05:21 <mihalis68> #topic review last weeks actions
15:05:44 <izaakk> o/
15:05:55 <mrhillsman> awesome :)
15:05:56 <mihalis68> mrhillsman to work on getting moderators for boston forum where needed
15:06:18 <mihalis68> was that done?
15:07:06 <mrhillsman> Shamail from UC sent email due to me being a bit disoriented from osic news
15:07:19 <mrhillsman> and some classes
15:07:29 <mrhillsman> so yes, that effort has started
15:07:57 <mihalis68> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bMVeKmYe/
15:08:08 <mrhillsman> product working group geared to help in that effort as well
15:08:10 <mihalis68> I sent a combined email covering most of that to the operators list
15:08:45 <mihalis68> When I reviewed the ether pad for mexico, I realized that there doesn't seem to be an actual hosting organization,  is that right?
15:08:48 <mrhillsman> I think we have enough folks for a vote
15:09:08 <mihalis68> I mention this now because I wasn't sure if the mexican proposal has all the info that is expected
15:09:28 <med_> hmmm I thought Intel was the host?
15:09:38 <med_> maybe I'm too out of the loop
15:09:39 <mihalis68> Intel bailed out of this entirely
15:09:52 <mihalis68> that was the oregon idea, now gone
15:09:56 <mrhillsman> Mexico City is actually behind it
15:10:06 <mihalis68> instead there is now a proposal for mexico
15:10:19 <med_> ah, I thought it just moved from one Intel site to another.
15:10:32 <mihalis68> izaakk are you representing the mexican proposal?
15:10:36 <mrhillsman> izaakk from Intel has been pushing it so Intel has not really nailed
15:10:40 <mrhillsman> bailed
15:10:51 <mrhillsman> there was a misstep on someone's part
15:10:56 <mihalis68> the oregon proposal definitely cratered though
15:11:07 <mrhillsman> causing it to fall through
15:11:23 <mrhillsman> they did not follow internal process
15:11:26 <mihalis68> to be blunt, there was plenty of time to pick that up, in fact there still ius
15:11:51 <mihalis68> I know that one employee left who was our contact but intel is a big corp
15:12:02 <mrhillsman> apologies if I did not provide an appropriate update at the time
15:12:11 * med_ notes that Colorado isn't hosting that the PTG is here and will welcome any Ops to the PTG with open arms.
15:13:07 <shintaro> so who put up the google docs for Mexico proposal?
15:13:20 <mihalis68> I'm aware of the OSIC news but not really of the actual impact, to be honest. I know intel is appearing in boston, but is that just "too late to ditch"
15:13:33 <izaakk> Hey, it's people from Openstack Mexico community
15:14:05 <izaakk> They will join next meeting
15:14:21 <mrhillsman> mihalis68 neither Intel nor Rackspace are pulling out of OpenStack efforts only the OSIC partnership is dissolved
15:14:23 <mihalis68> what can that group provide and what would have to be found otherwise? Items include venue rental, lunch, possibly breakfast too, signage, badges
15:14:39 <mihalis68> ok thanks for clarifying
15:15:09 <izaakk> I'm the point of contact for any questions on that
15:15:26 <izaakk> We are at the point where we should choose a venue and go from there
15:15:46 <mihalis68> note: attendees please add your name to the list here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team
15:15:53 <mihalis68> (attendees to this IRC meeting, I mean)
15:16:20 <mihalis68> izaakk can you answer my questions above?
15:17:08 <izaakk> That group is a few volunteers knocking does on people willing to sponsor space
15:17:18 <izaakk> They are just helping with logistics
15:17:42 <mihalis68> Understood. I think for this to be voted on, the expectation is that at least venue rental is spoken for
15:18:02 <izaakk> +1
15:18:18 <mihalis68> So far, and I don't want to be harsh, I think we do not have a firm proposal
15:18:44 <mihalis68> what do other people think?
15:18:54 <shintaro> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NdMCOTPP_ZmeF2Ak1mQB1bCOFHDkA5P2l6n6kdb8Kls/edit#
15:19:01 <shintaro> so we should review this
15:19:10 <shintaro> proposal
15:19:48 <izaakk> We have those options, we need to choose to formalize
15:20:58 <mrhillsman> mihalis68 I believe venue is taken care of based on what I read
15:21:09 <mrhillsman> izaakk can clarify
15:21:38 <mrhillsman> I think there are just stipulations around content presented
15:22:08 <mihalis68> such as?
15:22:15 <mihalis68> I don't see them in the google doc
15:22:31 <izaakk> Probably having a workshop
15:22:42 <izaakk> Is the only one
15:22:51 <mihalis68> is the normal content of an operators meet up all acceptable?
15:22:59 <izaakk> Yes
15:23:14 <mihalis68> can you help me understand how there are multiple free venues?
15:23:16 <mrhillsman> "TelmexHub is a totally free option, they only demand that there wasn’t marketing or sale or products in the event."
15:23:50 <mihalis68> so these are government or industry subsidized to promote mexico/mexico city in the high-tech area?
15:23:54 <izaakk> This are provided by foundations to cloud or tech events
15:24:03 <izaakk> Exactly
15:24:35 <mihalis68> Maybe I have been in the USA too long, but something free like this makes me cautious
15:24:43 <mihalis68> I can't help feel like you always pay
15:25:06 <mrhillsman> taxes ;)
15:25:13 <shintaro> is this like free co-working space?
15:25:45 <izaakk> I understand, and we will get more info once we choose. One of the venues told them last time that they told us that providing a workshop is enough to justify the use of the space
15:26:30 <izaakk> Which I think is a good thing anyways
15:26:34 <mihalis68> Ok. let's see if we can get some consensus
15:26:45 <mihalis68> are both venues acceptable to those here on this meeting? +1 if so
15:27:08 <mrhillsman> +1
15:27:12 <shintaro> +1
15:27:20 <mihalis68> the max sizes are 150 for Digital Culture Center and 200 for Telmex Hub
15:27:21 <izaakk> +1
15:27:24 <mihalis68> +1
15:28:04 <shintaro> izaakk: do you know how many small rooms in both venues?
15:28:33 <izaakk> I can get that info if is not in the doc today
15:28:35 <mihalis68> ok. So we seem to have two venues acceptable to this meeting both in Mexico City
15:29:06 <shintaro> the doc says "yes" for small rooms but not the numbers
15:29:16 <mihalis68> right. I don't see any more info on those anywhere in the doc
15:29:49 <mihalis68> Is there an advantage in travel and/or accommodation to either of the choices?
15:30:17 <izaakk> Let's make a list of questions you have about the venue and I'll try to get in touch and answer them today if the info is not in the doc
15:30:27 <mihalis68> works for me +1
15:30:35 <mrhillsman> +1
15:30:42 <shintaro> +1
15:30:58 <mihalis68> second request for todays meeting attendees to add their names to the list here : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetups-team
15:31:27 <emagana> I can do more research on the places, as Mexican and also as ex-citizen of Mexico City I can provide details on which place will make more sense
15:31:33 <mihalis68> #info the meeting agrees both Digital Culture Center and Telmex Hub appear acceptable for the august mid-cycle operators meet up
15:31:44 <mihalis68> that would be great emagana, thank you
15:32:10 <mrhillsman> as we have done before, izaakk can you start thread with shintaro and mihalis68 and anyone else interested in inquiry or helping solidify Midcycle items
15:32:43 <mihalis68> I propose we get updated final info on both venues to the mailing list this week (by Friday) in preparation for a vote this time next week on which venue. If we accept a venue then by implication mexico "wins" :)
15:32:48 <mrhillsman> + emagana to that thread
15:33:04 <mihalis68> please +1 if you agree with a vote next time we meet
15:33:06 <izaakk> will do mrhillsman
15:33:15 <mrhillsman> ty sir
15:33:34 <mrhillsman> +1 on vote
15:33:41 <mihalis68> +1 from me obviously
15:33:48 <shintaro> +1
15:33:55 <izaakk> +1
15:33:59 <emagana> +1
15:34:28 <mihalis68> Ok. #mihalis68 to email the operators mailing list notifying them that we intend to vote on accepting a mexico city venue for the mid-cycle next week
15:34:52 <med_> +1
15:35:16 <mihalis68> ok, we covered actions and quite a bit about mexico, any more on those?
15:35:28 <mihalis68> #topic Boston
15:35:36 <mihalis68> how's this going?
15:35:59 <med_> F'd'n just sent another blast-o-gram out trying to get folks to attend.
15:36:03 <mihalis68> last we met, we were simply lacking some moderators. We saw above that's underway
15:36:14 <mrhillsman> schedule has been sent via MLs and posted to summit schedule
15:36:30 <mihalis68> do you have the link handy?
15:36:52 <mrhillsman> moderator list posted and request to confirm/volunteer
15:38:22 <mrhillsman> https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Forum
15:38:29 <mihalis68> Thanks!
15:38:54 <mihalis68> who here will be in Boston?
15:38:56 <mrhillsman> welcome sir
15:39:03 <mrhillsman> o/
15:39:08 <mihalis68> o/
15:39:10 <shintaro> o/
15:39:16 <med_> o/
15:39:31 <mihalis68> excellent
15:40:30 <mihalis68> I just restored a couple of agenda items from last week just in case anyone wished to discuss them
15:40:39 <mihalis68> themed mid cycles and regional events
15:41:06 <mihalis68> for those not following along, themed mid-cycles was an idea to mold mid-cycles to the region
15:41:12 <mrhillsman> I have been wondering if a global Midcycle may work
15:41:26 <mihalis68> so for example if a mid-cycle was in Wash DC it might be openstack in government
15:41:35 <mrhillsman> oh, yes, let's start there :)
15:41:36 <mihalis68> do we need a theme for Mexico?
15:41:43 <mrhillsman> hpc
15:42:00 <mihalis68> I'll be honest, I don't know much about what the openstack community in mexico uses it for
15:42:03 <mrhillsman> is very popular for them from what I was told
15:42:17 <mrhillsman> but maybe we need to do some research
15:42:28 <izaakk> That was on Guadalajara, in Mexico city there is bigger enterprise adoption mrhillsman
15:42:34 <mrhillsman> ah ok
15:42:43 <mihalis68> seems like a question to be added to the "questions for the mexico hosts" list
15:42:48 <izaakk> and I think the team is helping us with the venues may provide more info about it
15:42:52 <mihalis68> along with rooms, travel, accommodation differences
15:43:03 <mihalis68> Ok, let's take this to an email discussion
15:43:04 <izaakk> mihalis68: +1
15:43:26 <mrhillsman> +1
15:43:49 <shintaro> do you mean let the host select the theme?
15:43:58 <mihalis68> we can provide info to all operators on whether the mexico city openstack gathering has a sufficiently clear theme to be worth us adopting it in the "marketing material" and/or name of event
15:44:27 <mrhillsman> what I think is most beneficial about these as I voiced from the beginning is the targeting
15:44:33 <mihalis68> as mentioned, Wash DC  would have an obvious theme, it has been suggested. I honestly don't know for Mexico City, however
15:44:49 <shintaro> +1 sounds great
15:44:50 <mihalis68> yeah if you have a theme you can go after specific communities with your outreach efforts
15:45:08 <mrhillsman> and would help OpenStack as a whole
15:45:38 <mihalis68> #info 15 minutes left
15:46:14 <mihalis68> I propose a decision on themed or not is made next week. Izaakk told us some more of the mexico city community will join us next week, right?
15:46:16 <mrhillsman> I'll start thread around this
15:46:30 <izaakk> mihalis68: correct
15:46:42 <mihalis68> #action mrhillsman to initiate email thread on operators mailing list around whether to theme the august event
15:46:49 <izaakk> start a thread and i'll include the Mexico city team
15:46:52 <mihalis68> for example "openstack adoption in the Enterprise"
15:46:57 <mihalis68> Great, thanks!
15:47:09 <mrhillsman> awesome
15:47:16 <mihalis68> #topic regional events
15:47:35 <mihalis68> I just remembered I had an action once to update the official operators wiki pages with a page or pages about regional events
15:47:46 <mihalis68> tssk tssk. Not done
15:48:02 <mrhillsman> hehe
15:48:13 <shintaro> ah yes
15:48:13 <mihalis68> #action mihalis68 to make a page to pull together all operators events (forum, mid-cycle and regional events too)
15:48:31 <mihalis68> Ok. We have covered the agenda items I put up
15:48:39 <mihalis68> anyone else wish to bring up a topic?
15:49:11 <shintaro> none from me
15:49:17 <mrhillsman> I will put on agenda for next week but I'd really like to see more participation around all things Ops from everyone
15:49:50 <mrhillsman> so just some brainstorming on how
15:49:59 <mihalis68> I feel that an accepted proposal for mexico city will be a nice thing to start getting word out about
15:50:35 <mihalis68> having been to the US, Canada, Japan and Spain for openstack events I'm excited to meet the next new community
15:51:00 <mrhillsman> +1
15:51:05 <shintaro> same here
15:51:46 <mihalis68> I feel like linking together the events this team plans and other events might break down some walls
15:51:49 <mihalis68> hence my action
15:51:58 <mihalis68> I find the openstack wiki quite a nice one
15:52:06 <mihalis68> easy to learn, nice visual results
15:52:13 <mihalis68> worth putting in some work
15:52:27 <mihalis68> compared to ether pad and google docs which are always very chaotic in my opinion
15:52:42 <mihalis68> I am just persuading myself to get the work done I promised here :)
15:53:07 <mihalis68> we can put promotion of the openstack operators on the agenda for next week if you like mrhillsman
15:53:42 <mihalis68> maybe we need some new recruits given that fifieldt seems to be AWOL and all the backspace and OSIC folks are at the very least dealing with reorgs
15:54:31 <mihalis68> last call or we can finish 5 minutes early this week
15:54:53 <mihalis68> ok. We're done. See you all next week here, same time, same place.
15:54:54 <mihalis68> #endmeeting