21:29:23 #startmeeting Ops and Arch Guide Docs Specialty Team 21:29:24 Meeting started Thu Jan 28 21:29:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ShillaSaebi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:29:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:29:27 The meeting name has been set to 'ops_and_arch_guide_docs_specialty_team' 21:29:39 hello 21:29:44 hi ShillaSaebi 21:29:48 anyone here for the ops/arch guide meeting 21:29:49 hi darrenc 21:30:50 here 21:31:11 xavpaice sends his apologies 21:31:48 hi sc68cal 21:32:08 o/ 21:32:21 hi everyone 21:32:31 alright lets go ahead and get started 21:32:49 #topic Open reviews 21:33:02 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/operations-guide,n,z 21:33:14 please see the open reviews and feel free to review/comment 21:33:33 any questions on that? 21:33:56 yeah, I need someone to take over the networking patch 21:34:16 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222434/ 21:34:18 this one 21:34:35 I'll check with vhoward, one moment 21:34:36 that's the one 21:34:48 yeah I emailed him, but haven't heard back 21:34:51 yeah lets see what vhoward and njohnston come back with 21:35:02 ok cheers 21:35:12 ok cool we can move on until we hear back 21:35:28 #topic Ops Meetup in Manchester 21:35:28 hey guys, told darren today that i'm going to work on that next week 21:35:35 ok cool vhoward 21:35:38 thanks for the update 21:35:42 sorry for delay on that 21:35:45 oh thanks vhoward :) 21:36:05 anyone going to the ops mid cycle meetup from our subteam? 21:36:21 Darren started a thread about potentially doing a swarm there and it seems most people are not attending from our group 21:36:21 not me 21:36:30 asettle can attend 21:36:30 so we discussed potentially doing it in Austin 21:36:59 sc68cal will you be in Manchester 21:37:19 ShillaSaebi: no, i won't. 21:37:25 ok 21:37:33 maybe it's something we can think about for Austin? 21:37:41 seems like most members of our team will not be there 21:37:44 We could do austin, but we'll need to change the deadline 21:37:50 yes 21:37:54 we should do that 21:38:44 summits are not usually a good place to get work done -.- 21:38:55 crippling ADHD 21:39:31 before or after summit? 21:40:06 before might be good. I think the problem with after is usually everyone is exhausted 21:40:14 true 21:40:15 yeah maybe a day before? 21:40:25 yeah that could work 21:40:35 but is one day enough? 21:40:36 I mean if nobody is going to the keynote on monday that might be a good time to do face to face 21:41:15 ill probably be going to the keynote 21:43:52 do we want to take this offline maybe 21:44:01 sure 21:44:03 we can further discuss it in the thread thats alraedy going 21:44:14 sc68cal : are u on the existing thread? 21:44:42 ShillaSaebi: is it on openstack-docs? 21:44:53 im not sure, darrenc did you send it to the ml 21:45:00 or was it just to some ppl from the subteam? 21:45:11 ppl on the subteam 21:45:36 I can add it to the mailing list 21:46:01 ok 21:46:05 ML would be great 21:46:06 thanks 21:46:34 alright 21:46:40 #topic Arch Guide Reorg Efforts 21:46:44 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Architecture_Design_Guide_work_items 21:46:53 here are the work items that are ongoing for the arch guide 21:47:19 the main thing to know here is to commit your work to the draft directory on openstack-manuals/docs/arch-design-draft 21:47:24 not the original repo 21:47:41 let me know if you have any questions 21:49:25 wow there are three arch-design related directories in openstack-manuals 21:49:39 arch-design, -draft and -rst 21:50:02 whoops 21:50:05 draft should be in rst format right 21:50:20 was - I just haven't run git clean -fd in a while 21:50:27 just arch-design and -draft now 21:50:35 yep 21:51:28 good riddance to docbook 21:51:53 poor anne had to take the original output from some CMS system, into docbook for the first release of the arch guide 21:52:16 how painful 21:52:50 yeah 21:52:53 definitely 21:53:12 alright any other questions/comments on that 21:53:44 #topic Feedback on arch guide virtual swarm 21:54:05 Ok we had a virtual swarm on 21-22 December and had a lot of help from some of the members of the team 21:54:12 thank you for the hard work 21:56:01 Personally I think it was difficult to get everyone on the same page in the virtual swarm 21:56:14 I agree 21:56:22 the time zone differences 21:56:25 and being virtual 21:56:30 at all random hours 21:56:45 Plus it was difficult for everyone give their input into the changes 21:57:02 yes time zones 21:59:00 that said, in APAC we had a few ppl working together which was good 21:59:04 so hopefully we can shoot for an in person next time 21:59:11 yep 22:00:04 great 22:01:05 also I think having it before christmas wasn't ideal 22:01:32 participation was much lower than expected 22:01:54 lol 22:01:56 yeah 22:02:07 thats a lesson learned 22:02:27 alright 22:02:35 do we have anything else we want to discuss 22:02:41 #topic open discussion 22:03:12 feel free to bring up anything 22:03:15 open discussion 22:03:41 we need to consider the o'reilly thing for the ops guide 22:04:21 what was the latest update with that 22:04:46 nothing since lana informed us 22:06:15 I'm not sure what costs are involved in publishing another edition 22:06:36 ShillaSaebi, darrenc, good morning :) 22:06:43 hi katomo 22:06:59 and effort 22:07:35 but my understanding is o'rielly likes books in asciidoc 22:07:40 hi katomo 22:07:55 ok 22:07:59 maybe we can check back with Lana 22:08:00 so we would need to convert at some point 22:08:27 ok 22:09:47 I'll chat to lana 22:09:53 sounds great 22:09:59 anything anyone else wants to bring up or discuss? 22:10:13 if not, we can get 20 min back 22:10:31 RST conversion ? 22:10:40 already discussed ? 22:10:48 for the arch guide? 22:10:50 or ops guide? 22:10:52 oh yeah the ops guide needs to be converted 22:10:53 ops guide 22:11:02 yeah we didn't actually discuss that 22:11:06 that's the only guide left I think 22:11:09 when do u guys want to start that 22:11:21 do we have the blueprint and spec approved 22:11:32 yes 22:11:52 cool 22:11:57 so when do u guys wanna get started 22:12:06 if we don't reorganize ops guide until Newton cycle, we have 2 months to convert 22:12:21 but I think we were going to push it back to the O-release? 22:12:24 I want to start 22:12:57 If there are ppl available to do it, I don't see why not 22:13:37 yeah, I believe 22:13:38 We seem to convert things pretty quickly these days 22:13:53 let me find the spec 22:14:00 cool 22:14:03 im ready to do it as well 22:14:07 we should do it in the same format 22:14:15 assign out chapters and go 22:14:50 Cool, we'll need to run this by Lana 22:14:57 ok 22:15:10 ok 22:15:15 i can add it to the specialty team updates email i am sending her 22:15:24 i already sent it but ill add this on 22:15:28 ok cool anything else 22:15:29 sounds good 22:16:10 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/ops-guide-rst 22:16:17 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/ops-guide-rst 22:16:27 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/ops-guide-rst 22:16:34 whoops 22:16:46 heh 22:17:08 :) 22:17:45 approved! thanks, darrenc 22:19:28 oh I think I'm confused 22:19:59 I drafted this before the Mitaka 22:20:14 yea 22:20:43 so we are doing it for this release 22:21:09 yes 22:21:43 gosh, time flies 22:22:04 ok probably still mention it to Lana 22:22:08 ok 22:22:09 will do 22:22:11 :) 22:22:13 I'll set up the migration page 22:22:18 great 22:22:42 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Migrate#Operations_Guide 22:23:06 nice, thanks katomo 22:23:08 darrence: thanks. need update :) 22:23:50 *darrenc 22:25:17 ok anything else ? 22:25:35 I have nothing else 22:25:44 none 22:26:45 ok great 22:26:47 thanks everyone 22:26:49 #endmeeting