20:00:57 <ildikov> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute
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20:01:14 <spotz> \o/ need to hay the horse real quick!
20:01:34 <ildikov> spotz: noted :)
20:03:25 <marst> \o/
20:03:35 <ildikov> marst: hi :)
20:04:20 <marst> ildikov: sorry for skipping last few meetings. I'll try to be around more often from now on. :)
20:04:55 <marst> ildikov: Hi. :)
20:05:02 <ildikov> marst: all good, we also cancelled quite a few due to holidays, etc.
20:05:13 <ildikov> we need to get up to speed now though :)
20:06:05 <ildikov> marst: are you coming to the PTG?
20:06:33 <marst> ildikov: no, unfortunately. I'll be in Vancouver though.
20:06:46 <ildikov> marst: sadness about the PTG
20:06:58 <ildikov> marst: but happiness about Vancouver :)
20:07:09 <ildikov> marst: will you come to the training as well?
20:07:15 <spotz> Ok back
20:07:25 <ildikov> spotz: welcome back :)
20:07:41 <ildikov> so we have a light agenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings
20:07:42 <marst> ildikov: yes, I'll try.
20:08:28 <ildikov> spotz: did you say no or maybe for the PTG last time?
20:08:43 <spotz> ildikov: I'm a no:(
20:09:17 <ildikov> spotz: sadness :(
20:10:11 <ildikov> marst: spotz: so we aim for a working session at the PTG. If we can find an afternoon session with people available should we try with a virtual session?
20:10:37 <ildikov> marst: spotz: with any conference call tool
20:11:00 <spotz> ildikov: Yeah I think so. I know diablo_rojo was also thinking about some working type sessions
20:11:18 <ildikov> spotz: yeah, we were brainstorming about it a little
20:11:47 <ildikov> I have a Doodle poll: https://doodle.com/poll/y4cmhe2ur2vqkhae
20:12:11 * smcginnis lurks in the back corner
20:12:18 <spotz> heay smcginnis
20:12:21 <ildikov> as the First Contact SIG and Docs sessions are Monday and Tuesday, but there are a lot of collisions during those days
20:12:26 <smcginnis> SOrry spotz!
20:12:33 <spotz> hehehe
20:12:47 <ildikov> and we also don't want to fully repurpose any of those sessions to the training topics
20:12:55 <ildikov> smcginnis: hi :)
20:13:18 <smcginnis> o/
20:13:25 <spotz> ildikov: While we do alot of docs, I think there would/should be some overlap with First Contact SIG
20:13:28 <ildikov> spotz: so we were thinking of Friday as a possibility, however that might be European morning time, but we will see
20:13:35 <smcginnis> spotz: ++
20:13:39 <ildikov> spotz: yeah, there is some
20:14:02 <spotz> ildikov: If it's Euro AM, I'll join after I ride:)
20:14:51 <ildikov> spotz: yeah, the First Contact SIG is fine for brainstorming and we can also use the Docs/Contributor Portal ones for the content migration
20:14:55 <ildikov> spotz: :)
20:15:23 <ildikov> spotz: but I think the restructuring of the training and the exercises would need their own sessions IMHO
20:15:42 <spotz> Cool, yeah we should be leveraging where we can especually with cross pollination of team members anyways
20:15:50 <spotz> ildikov: Agreed
20:16:03 <ildikov> spotz: yeah, finding the balance will be the key
20:16:34 <ildikov> spotz: the unfortunate situation is that the First Contact SIG sessions on Monday seem to collide with many other stuff :/
20:17:48 <ildikov> so yeah, Doodle is our friend :)
20:18:23 <ildikov> #link https://doodle.com/poll/y4cmhe2ur2vqkhae
20:18:41 <ildikov> beyond that we have the migration items on StoryBoard
20:18:52 <ildikov> #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/913
20:20:01 <ildikov> and the open reviews for the contributor guide
20:20:05 <ildikov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/contributor-guide
20:20:49 <ildikov> after the PTG we will have almost three month until Vancouver
20:21:00 <ildikov> so we need to get things into motion
20:21:50 <ildikov> if we will not have a critical mass at the PTG then I think we should try a Hangouts call or smth to get on the same page with ideas and get things started
20:22:23 <ildikov> after that we can get back to the regular work methods
20:22:53 <ildikov> but I feel that the restructuring of the training will not happen over Gerrit and the weekly IRC meetings
20:22:55 <ildikov> thoughts?
20:23:56 <smcginnis> That does seem something best accomplished face to face.
20:24:17 <ildikov> smcginnis: agreed
20:25:04 <ildikov> smcginnis: so fill out to Doodle poll plz: https://doodle.com/poll/y4cmhe2ur2vqkhae :)
20:28:17 <ildikov> spotz: marst: I will keep you posted on the slot we chose and we will try to have a call set up as well
20:28:29 <spotz> sounds good
20:28:34 <smcginnis> ildikov: Not sure if the times really work for me or not, but I've added when I think might be more likely times.
20:28:41 <marst> ildikov: thanks! :)
20:29:13 <ildikov> spotz: marst: if we end up with a morning session then we will either update you on the next meeting on where we got or have a follow up call or both
20:29:37 <spotz> ildikov: Sounds good
20:30:26 <ildikov> smcginnis: I had a feeling that you will be very busy again :( :)
20:30:39 <smcginnis> I have that feeling too. :/
20:31:15 <ildikov> smcginnis: fingers crossed, and we would be happy even if you just pop by :)
20:31:31 <smcginnis> I'm hoping I can participate at least a little while.
20:31:46 <ildikov> sounds good
20:33:45 <ildikov> we will do some planning towards the PTG and I will also reach out to my team to see when we can start advertising the training and have people signing up
20:35:15 <ildikov> so these are roughly the plans onwards
20:37:33 <ildikov> any questions/concerns/ideas from anyone?
20:37:59 <smcginnis> I have plenty of questions and concerns, but none for this group. :)
20:38:12 <ildikov> haha
20:38:26 <ildikov> so you have ideas for this group then? :)
20:39:18 <smcginnis> Nope!
20:39:25 <ildikov> :(
20:39:43 <ildikov> next time then :)
20:39:53 <smcginnis> Hah, maybe. ;)
20:39:57 <ildikov> ;)
20:40:55 <ildikov> ok, I don't have anything else for today
20:41:29 <ildikov> will keep you updated on the PTG plans
20:41:55 <smcginnis> Thanks ildikov!
20:42:08 <marst> ildikov: thank you!
20:42:17 <ildikov> see you here two weeks from today! :)
20:42:39 <ildikov> #endmeeting