09:01:42 <ildikov> #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute
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09:03:33 <ianychoi> hi sorry for late :)
09:03:44 <diablo_rojo> ianychoi, no worries :)
09:03:46 <ildikov> gmann: kmARC: are you available for the meeting? :)
09:03:49 <mpranjic> hello :)
09:03:50 <diablo_rojo> Just about to kick things off
09:03:55 <ildikov> ianychoi: hi, thanks for joining :)
09:04:09 <kmARC> o/ yes. partly.
09:04:16 <ildikov> mpranjic: hi, welcome :)
09:04:25 <mpranjic> ildikov: thnx :)
09:05:05 <ildikov> let's start :)
09:05:22 <ildikov> #topic Announcements
09:05:51 <ildikov> just a quick reminder that we had a rertospective etherpad for the Boston Summit
09:06:01 <ildikov> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_OUI_Post_Mortem
09:06:26 <mpranjic> man, that post mortem sounds like all is dead :)
09:06:46 <ildikov> with diablo_rojo we are at the OPNFV Summit this week and bringing the training here
09:06:57 <diablo_rojo> OUI comes to OPNFV
09:07:08 <ildikov> it will take place tomorrow and on Thursday, two short days, we hope it will go great :)
09:07:33 <diablo_rojo> Not doing deep dives, but covering everything else
09:07:33 <ildikov> mpranjic: not dead, just past :)
09:08:03 <ildikov> we will put more emphasis on the basics and try to ensure we give all the information and poinrers to the students to start with
09:08:20 <mpranjic> sounds nice
09:08:27 <ildikov> we also hope that we will get support for translating the training material and having more trainings in this area
09:09:10 <ianychoi> Wow tomorrow ildikov diablo_rojo r u in Beijing? :)
09:09:22 <diablo_rojo> ianychoi, we are here now
09:09:30 <diablo_rojo> Both got in Sunday
09:09:33 <ildikov> ianychoi: yep, we are already here, the event is already ongoing :)
09:09:40 <ianychoi> Great - so near to Korea!
09:09:48 <mpranjic> shame I am gonna miss it, but well :)
09:09:59 <ildikov> ianychoi: I know, would be good if you could've joined too!
09:10:16 <ildikov> mpranjic: where are you based?
09:10:37 <mpranjic> ildikov: Oslo, Norway
09:10:51 <ildikov> mpranjic: you can come to OpenStack Days Nordic
09:10:52 <ianychoi> ildikov, yep sorry but hope that more Chinese OpenStackers will join in upstream institute Beijing
09:11:09 <ildikov> mpranjic: in Copenhagen in October
09:11:23 <ianychoi> Great
09:11:39 <mpranjic> ildikov: sounds great :) will certainly look to attend there
09:11:44 <ildikov> mpranjic: we will bring a shorter version of the training there :)
09:11:56 <ildikov> mpranjic: awesome! :)
09:12:25 <mpranjic> http://openstacknordic.org/
09:12:27 <mpranjic> found it
09:13:02 <diablo_rojo> mpranjic, could also join us at OSD UK in September
09:13:06 <ildikov> mpranjic: will keep you posted when we move forward with the organization of that one
09:13:11 <diablo_rojo> If you want more excuses to travel :)
09:13:18 <mpranjic> ildikov: thnx. sounds great!
09:13:43 <ildikov> ok, let's move on :)
09:13:50 <mpranjic> I am starting my new job in September so I have to see what will be like and if I can get aproval, but will ask for it
09:13:53 <mpranjic> okido
09:14:03 <diablo_rojo> mpranjic, congrats :)
09:14:12 <ildikov> mpranjic: congrats! :)
09:14:14 <mpranjic> thnx :)
09:14:24 <ildikov> mpranjic: sounds good, let's keep in touch
09:14:31 <mpranjic> by all means :)
09:14:37 <ildikov> mpranjic: :)
09:14:58 <ildikov> so we asked students who didn't attend the training that what was the reason for that
09:15:04 <ildikov> we had a lot of delayed flights
09:15:26 <ildikov> they couldn't come for the first day and therefore they didn't show up on the second
09:15:26 <diablo_rojo> The weather was pretty bad that Fri-Sun
09:15:42 <ianychoi> mpranjic, congrats :)
09:15:53 <diablo_rojo> Or they got delayed into Sunday and so didn't think it was appropriate to join for a fraction of the last day
09:16:01 <ildikov> and some of them realize it too late that the training is before the summit and not in parallel
09:16:06 <ianychoi> diablo_rojo, the weather in Beijing is not usually good AFAIK
09:16:12 <mpranjic> I did NFV PoC on OpenStack in 2015 for Telekom Austria Group. It was pretty good even then
09:16:23 <mpranjic> I am sure it is more polished now
09:16:24 <ianychoi> How many Chinese volunteers are for upstream institute?
09:16:41 <ildikov> ianychoi: 3
09:16:50 <ianychoi> I see - good :)
09:16:59 <diablo_rojo> Moving on? :)
09:17:03 <ianychoi> Yep
09:17:07 <ildikov> we are expecting ~30 students here
09:17:27 <ildikov> ok, next topic :)
09:17:34 <ildikov> #topic Trainer/Training organizer best practices
09:17:53 <ildikov> we started to collect best practices based on the experiences we had during the past few trainings
09:18:06 <ildikov> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-training-best-practices
09:18:40 <ildikov> currently it's on an etherpad so it's easier to edit for multiple people and then we will move it to the web and link it to the training web page
09:19:28 <ildikov> the idea is to help trainers and mentors/coaches who hold trainings either before the Summit or organized anywhere locally
09:19:44 <ildikov> it's basically a list of what to do and what to try to avoid
09:19:54 <ildikov> if you have further ideas/comments please add them
09:20:14 <ildikov> I will send out a reminder mail to the ML as well and aim to move it to the web next week
09:20:20 <ianychoi> I see. Thank u - I will more review it later
09:20:31 <ianychoi> and add comments if I have :)
09:20:36 <ildikov> ianychoi: sounds good, thank you
09:20:54 <ianychoi> ildikov, it's my pleasure :)
09:21:25 <ildikov> are there any questions to this?
09:21:34 <mpranjic> I have none
09:21:38 <ianychoi> Nope from me
09:21:44 <ildikov> ok, cool :)
09:22:00 <ildikov> then moving on
09:22:04 <ildikov> #topic Open discussion
09:22:38 <ildikov> mpranjic: do you plan to stick around and get involved with the activities of the training team?
09:23:32 <mpranjic> ildikov: if I can help out, gladly
09:23:32 <ildikov> mpranjic: we have a wiki page that contains general info and list of team members: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute
09:23:40 <mpranjic> *click*
09:23:48 <ildikov> :)
09:24:01 <diablo_rojo> :)
09:24:06 <diablo_rojo> Welcome to the team :)
09:24:07 <mpranjic> ok, how can I help?
09:24:09 <ildikov> mpranjic: could you please add your info to the wiki?
09:24:09 <mpranjic> thx :)
09:24:14 <ianychoi> mpranjic, welcome!
09:24:17 <mpranjic> sec ...
09:24:37 <ildikov> mpranjic: basically we are continuously trying to improve the training material and exercises
09:24:52 <ildikov> mpranjic: if you have any ideas to those that would help
09:25:08 <ildikov> mpranjic: you can either propose a patch to our repo or bring the idea up on one of our meetings
09:25:34 <ildikov> mpranjic: and if you can participate in trainings as a coach/mentor that would also be great
09:26:09 <ildikov> mpranjic: we have a team IRC channel, you can find all the info on the wiki
09:26:33 <mpranjic> I have no problems with holding trainings.. as long as I get aproval from my company.. since I am not actually OpenStack only employee by any standard :)
09:26:34 <diablo_rojo> #openstack-upstream-institute
09:27:01 <ildikov> mpranjic: if you have any questions it's the best to ask them on that channel ^^
09:27:25 <ildikov> mpranjic: sure, most of the team members have the same constraints
09:27:30 <mpranjic> hm
09:27:36 <mpranjic> can't login to that wiki there
09:27:36 <mpranjic> OpenID error
09:27:37 <mpranjic> An error occurred: an invalid token was found.
09:27:53 <ildikov> mpranjic: we are usually try to give an early enough heads up when and where we are holding trainings
09:28:20 <ildikov> mpranjic: hmm, I've never hit that error before
09:28:43 <ildikov> mpranjic: are other sites working with your credentials?
09:29:00 <mpranjic> ildikov: yeah.. with UbunyuOne acc
09:31:46 <mpranjic> nwm. will investigate it
09:31:52 <mpranjic> we can proceed :)
09:31:57 <ildikov> mpranjic: are all your OpenStack account settings right?
09:32:35 <mpranjic> should be. I do code reviews properly
09:33:15 <ildikov> hmm, I don't know what can be the issue from the top of my head :/
09:33:34 <diablo_rojo> ping fungi or clarkb when they wake up
09:33:43 <diablo_rojo> they should be able to help you out
09:33:49 <ildikov> on #openstack-infra
09:33:53 <ianychoi> hmm I don't see problems on my login
09:34:00 <mpranjic> diablo_rojo: will do. thnx
09:34:01 <ianychoi> to OpenStack wiki page
09:34:04 <ildikov> mine works too
09:34:35 <mpranjic> I login and when I chose the nick (basicaly name and surname), I get that error
09:35:03 <ildikov> hmm
09:35:16 <mpranjic> anyway, I will add my info in the list when I sort that out
09:35:27 <ildikov> ok, sounds good
09:35:36 <ildikov> sorry I cannot help :(
09:35:40 <mpranjic> dw :)
09:35:44 <ildikov> :)
09:35:59 <ildikov> ok, any other topic for today from anyone?
09:36:35 <ianychoi> Nope from me
09:37:14 <ildikov> alright
09:37:18 <ianychoi> ildikov, diablo_rojo: have good weekdays in Beijing!
09:37:18 <ildikov> thank you all for joining!
09:37:26 <ildikov> have a good day
09:37:30 <ildikov> ianychoi: thanks :)
09:37:30 <mpranjic> yeah, you too :)
09:37:42 <ildikov> and see you all here two weeks from today! :)
09:37:47 <mpranjic> sure thing
09:37:52 <ildikov> #endmeeting