12:59:02 #startmeeting openstack_i18n_office_hour 12:59:03 Meeting started Thu Sep 13 12:59:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:59:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:59:06 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_office_hour' 12:59:07 #topic Open Discussion 12:59:19 Start the meeting ;) 12:59:30 Welcome to I18n office hour 12:59:42 i will be online in 15 mins... 12:59:53 ok 13:00:18 but will close in time :) 13:04:52 Hello 13:05:08 hello jpich :) 13:08:36 eumel8: Are you in Denver? I can't recall 13:09:18 jpich: I'm already in Berlin :-)) 13:09:47 Oh did you only go for the cross-project days? 13:10:13 no, no Denver travel 13:10:20 Ah! 13:10:43 too many parallel events this week. At the end I was already at home ;) 13:10:48 No RDO party for you 13:11:06 Fair enough! That way you won't be late for the Summit :-) 13:12:40 not sure, I have so many other events to organize around the Summit. Hopefully I have time for the main event there ;) 13:13:20 haha! 13:14:28 jpich, oh are u in Denver?! 13:14:35 Nope 13:14:45 jpich, I was in Denver but now am in Korea :( 13:14:53 Ah! How was Denver? :) 13:15:00 Great :) 13:15:03 Productive conversations?? 13:15:36 Sure! So great memories 13:15:36 I saw only beer bottles and glasses ;) 13:15:38 #link https://twitter.com/ianychoi/status/1039675065715982336 13:16:01 #link https://twitter.com/ianychoi/status/1039301387702624256 13:16:12 yeah, the Docs Team :) 13:16:29 And the following is one of productive conversations, although I was not on Wednesday 13:16:32 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134609.html 13:17:05 ianychoi: is the interview already online? 13:17:09 Also I18n :) I had nice conversation with openstack-helm team for from Korean to English documentation 13:17:09 Nice! 13:17:13 eumel8, not yet :( 13:17:45 just wondering, rbowen wasn't there 13:18:21 Also Doug and Monty kindly tried to help a lot with nice conversation, although the the discussion on the upper link happened on Wed, during my return flight to Korea 13:19:01 yes, time is running fast 13:19:02 And I discussed w/ Storyboard team how to I18n-ize Storyboard dashboard, and we discussed some possible ways of I18n-ing Storyboard dashboard 13:19:42 In addition, FC-sig team really wants to make contributor-guide i18n-ized. Also nice conversation 13:20:06 nice 13:20:08 Sorry I couldn't now provide summary - I think I can summarize on this weekend 13:21:10 eumel8, and... Petr suggested an interesting idea.. merging Docs office hour and I18n office hour into one. How about this idea? :) 13:23:02 mhm, I don't know. Interests are slidely different. 13:23:34 But I observ the situation how Docs office hour works and ours also 13:23:55 I think it is fine since 1) we don't have enough quorum 2) Some interests are duplicated 3) We know each other a lot 13:26:14 yes, but I was a little bit disappointed when I checked the attendee list on the PTG etherpad for docs/i18n. There are fewer and fewer people every year. I think we have to change things in general. 13:26:34 eumel8, which possible things in general? 13:30:20 from my observations you collaborate a lot with other teams or SIGs in Denver. That's be very good. But there is no more work as an independent team - on I18n side and now also on Docs side 13:33:26 but maybe I'm wrong. Want to talk to Petr also :) 13:34:04 I think collaboration makes I18n team get more attention and be much stronger with the help inside & outside of the team. I can definitely say that there are more progress on doc translation support, translating whitepapers, additional I18n process on openstack-helm team as a pilot, contributor-guide, and Storyboard. 13:34:55 Second, it definitely seems that Docs & I18n are stablized, and more additional unofficial projects (from the perspective of TC) want to get more Docs/I18n. 13:36:40 I cannot say that I am the best to address all possible Docs/I18n issues we are facing. I cannot change current trend and the interest of people and contributors, but what I could do is to share the issues in Docs/I18n which might be related with other projects and discuss how Docs/I18n teams can address 13:38:15 Aha.. one forgot thing I wanted to share (although eumel8 already knew): AUC criteria and it seems that there is no objection on UC: "i18n would like translators that work on whitepapers or User Survey to get AUC status - Yes no brainer :) 13:38:15 " from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-stein-ptg 13:41:17 ianychoi: yes, that's fine and I'm happy with your tireless work, but I don't know if this justify a project team. You had this idea with the I18n SIG. Maybe we want to think about it again. 13:42:43 eumel8, thanks but you also do tireless work :) 13:44:02 ianychoi: yes, but this is not endless ;) 13:44:10 eumel8, I had two different ideas: 1) I18n team -> I18n SIG and 2) I18n team + Globalization SIG. For 1), let's think after I18n team has no PTL candidate. For 2), it seems that more agreement on all OpenStack world might be needed.. 13:44:41 eumel8, we are now doing well - that's pretty fine and let's seriously consider on next cycle :) 13:45:21 Me is also under strange situation.. with unstable life in Korea but I am happy to still talk with u 13:45:27 and many OpenStack contributors 13:47:20 yes, but somebody has to buy the rolls at the end. You should ask Jimmy for a permanent position at the OSF local office in Korea :) 13:48:12 Haha.. thanks a lot for such saying but I really don't know how to proceed such position.. 13:48:35 Perspective and thinking might be very different 13:49:31 My perspective, your perspective, the perspective of others might be different.. 13:59:03 ok, have to move 13:59:14 thx for participating 13:59:19 cu later :) 13:59:23 eumel8, cu later :) 13:59:27 #endmeeting