06:58:08 <eumel8> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Office Hour
06:58:09 <openstack> Meeting started Thu May  3 06:58:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:58:12 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_office_hour'
06:58:42 <eumel8> Good morning, welcome to the second I18n Office Hour
07:00:13 <eumel8> #link https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2018/attend/live-video-stream/
07:00:39 <ianychoi_> oh 2nd office hour!
07:01:12 <eumel8> oooh,who is disturbing the silence ;)
07:01:32 <ianychoi> It's me!!!!
07:01:52 <eumel8> Good morning, ianychoi :)
07:02:02 <ianychoi> But I actually slept two hours yesterday, so I may be so tired now
07:02:15 <ianychoi> eumel8, I am in US so it is midnight
07:02:47 <eumel8> I watched 3 conferences in parallel yesterday, so I'm also tired ;)
07:02:56 <eumel8> in US? What happen there?
07:03:02 <ianychoi> eumel8, anyone interesting things on Kubecon?
07:03:26 <ianychoi> eumel8, I attended F8 (Facebook Developer conference) for refreshing myself
07:04:53 <eumel8> lots of work culture like https://www.coedethics.org/ seems hot but I don't catched this fully at the time
07:05:20 <eumel8> Keynotes are alltime funny, like OpenStack Summit Keynotes
07:05:30 <ianychoi> Aha :)
07:05:35 <amotoki> hi
07:05:47 <amotoki> looks like talking about conferences :)
07:05:48 <eumel8> hi amotoki
07:06:04 <eumel8> yeah
07:06:15 <amotoki> this week is holiday week, so I am here :p
07:06:17 <eumel8> amotoki: are you in Copenhagen?
07:06:41 <amotoki> eumel8: no, I am in Japan and am enjoying the holiday week.
07:07:00 <eumel8> just wondering, the event site of Linux Foundation had a Japanese translation ;)
07:07:05 <ianychoi> amotoki, hi! I think I haven't greet you more than one month :)
07:07:21 <amotoki> ianychoi: :)
07:07:53 <eumel8> ianychoi: I think Facebook talks a lot about AI and Machine Learning, isn't it?
07:07:54 <amotoki> eumel8: do you mean https://www.linuxfoundation.jp/ ?
07:08:36 <amotoki> eumel8: we have LinuxCon Japan which is now renamed to Open Source Summit Japan, so I think this is the reason the site has ja translation.
07:08:45 <eumel8> amatoki: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2018/attend/live-video-stream/ I clicked the wrong button and the site was full of strange signs ;)
07:10:09 <eumel8> I think it's also at 9 in the morning now
07:10:18 <ianychoi> eumel8, not only AI and machine learning, but.. more, for example, Facebook announced dating application on the top of Facebook :)
07:10:25 <amotoki> so isn't the keynote today now?
07:10:27 <ianychoi> Yep; 9:10 AM
07:11:03 <eumel8> ianychoi: are you a potential consumer? ;)
07:11:47 <ianychoi> eumel8, not sure haha :)
07:12:20 <eumel8> I'm only a tiny Facebook stakeholder
07:12:29 <ianychoi> haha :)
07:13:13 <ianychoi> Also, Facebook announced Oculus for AR
07:13:22 <ianychoi> (Augmented Reality)
07:14:48 <eumel8> just realized we sell something in our own company:  https://www.telekom.de/entertainment/virtual-reality
07:17:23 <eumel8> btw: dhellmann is asking all PTLs (and also on dev-ML) what we think about python3 upgrade
07:20:27 <eumel8> I think we have some python scripts there: #link https://github.com/openstack/i18n
07:29:42 <amotoki> two releases ago, I tried to add unit test coverage to ensure python3 compatbility
07:30:22 <amotoki> but at that time the effort was blocked by a question on whether we should have python code in importable places.
07:31:48 <amotoki> I tried to to create openstack_i18n directory under the i18n git repo and move all python codes into there.
07:32:08 <eumel8> I'm not so familar with Python, so I don't know how this will work out
07:32:15 <amotoki> ianychoi seems to have a different opinion at that time. I cannot remember the full context.
07:33:31 <amotoki> the current python code in the i18n repo were py3 compat when I updated them to python3 compat, but I don't know it is true now.
07:35:10 <amotoki> eumel8: to import python module from other modules, they need to be placed at importable places (unless all python codes are placed in a single dir).
07:35:31 <amotoki> eumel8: you might see __init__.py in python repos. this file makes python module importable.
07:40:41 <eumel8> I think it's only there: https://github.com/openstack/i18n/tree/master/tools and the required things to build Extra ATC stats which we need in some few months
07:42:28 <amotoki> yeah, it's true.
07:42:47 <amotoki> so the question is where we should place tests (to ensure python3 compatiblity)
07:44:49 <eumel8> I think we have translate-dev for this use case
07:45:53 <eumel8> here are also some python stuff: #link https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/master/roles/prep-zanata/files
07:57:37 <eumel8> will close the Office Hour now, thx
07:57:42 <eumel8> #endmeeting