13:01:34 #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting 13:01:35 Meeting started Thu Feb 16 13:01:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:01:38 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' 13:01:47 eumel8, yep :) 13:02:03 #topic roll call 13:02:46 Hmm I am not sure who will more come to the meeting, but I will wait :) 13:03:25 Hello :) 13:03:48 jpich, hello! 13:04:58 Very grateful for all the contributions to tripleo-ui translations from the i18n community :) 13:05:28 yep 13:05:35 we're done :) 13:05:46 :) How I have not recently seen translation progress ratio on tripleo-ui. Wow great German! 13:06:26 Sorry that the percentages are dropping, it's our first i18n release so we're finding lots of missing i18n strings!! Hopefully we will do better in Pike :) 13:06:53 And yes, super happy about all the new languages \o/ 13:07:45 Wow currently there are 6 translated strings (including en-gb) for tripleo-ui! 13:08:12 \o/ 13:09:13 #topic Translation progress & finalization w.r.t. StringFreeze 13:09:46 Horizon team said that Horizon would be finally tagged with RC2 within today 13:10:30 ok 13:12:01 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/horizon/tree/openstack_dashboard/settings.py?h=stable/ocata#n211 13:12:34 #link https://translate.openstack.org/version-group/view/ocata-dashboard-translation/ 13:13:47 When I see both, IMO no modification for current supported language would be fine, although there has not been translations during Ocata cycle for some language translation 13:15:12 has the czech team not enough progress for release? 13:15:19 suh, hi 13:15:26 saw something last week 13:15:48 Hi, everybody 13:15:52 eumel8, czech team has contributed on horizon :) 13:15:53 suh, hi! 13:16:04 hi suh 13:16:24 hi eume18 13:17:12 I am indonesian translator 13:17:43 yep :) 13:18:33 jpich, by the way, would it be possible for tripleo-ui to change release model to cycle-with-milestone later? 13:20:56 ianychoi: unfortunately I don't think so, all of tripleo is cycle-trailing and we depend on other TripleO components 13:21:27 jpich, I see, then when would tripleo-ui will have stable branch? 13:22:07 ianychoi: For Ocata we are trying to create it today (in fact right now! Unfortunately we're hitting some issues and currently working through them in #openstack-release) 13:22:43 In general we create branches for the first RC and it is about 2 weeks later than the other projects, though it's not set in stone 13:24:27 jpich, I see. I do not want to push stable branch creation for tripleo projects. For I18n team, PTL creates stable branches around the end of hard stringfreeze currently. I am now identifying which timing for 2nd (and 3rd if needed) round of stable version creation in Zanata & adding infrastructure job would be the best 13:26:36 Oh zzxwill hi! 13:26:51 hi zzxwill 13:26:52 Hi ianychoi. Sorry I'm late. 13:27:01 zzxwill, that's fine :) 13:27:17 Hello eumel8:) 13:27:24 zzxwill, thanks a lot for encouraging Chinese translations! 13:27:49 It's my duty:) 13:27:50 ianychoi: As much as possible I don't want to cause more work for you and i18n team so, please let me know what I can do to help, if there are things I can do myself. E.g. I can at least notify you when the branch gets created each release, so that you don't have to worry and keep checking for it 13:28:28 Horizon will have RC2 stable/ocata tagging today (Thanks a lot - r1chardj0n3s and robcresswell !) 13:28:53 #info Horizon will have RC2 stable/ocata tagging today 13:28:54 We can still add more to stable as they are proposed and release later on 13:29:55 robcresswell, I have checked current translation ratio and also current language lists and then IMO most active translation teams have contributed well :) 13:30:33 Yeah, mostly looks pretty good 13:30:46 jpich, thanks! I may need to talk with release management team next week 13:30:48 There are a couple that are 60/70%; would be nice if they could raise a little 13:31:03 jpich, also hope to see during PTG! 13:31:50 ianychoi: Sounds good! I think everyone is still figuring out what cycle-trailing means, for intermediate deadlines like feature freeze, RC, etc. It should be an interesting conversation :) Looking forward to meeting you as well! 13:32:00 robcresswell, yep :) 13:33:15 #topic PTG topics 13:33:36 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-pike 13:34:16 Please see the updated Etherpad content - asettle arranged a lot so great :) 13:34:36 yep, nice 13:35:16 +1 13:36:04 eumel8, where do you live? Berlin or Munchen (a.k.a., your timezone is same as Paris?) 13:36:36 Berlin 13:37:09 suh, how about you? Jakarta? 13:37:48 Yep, I live in Jakarta, capitol city 13:38:21 #info There will be an online meeting session on Feb 21 Mon: 2:40pm - 3:20pm 13:38:36 #link https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20170221&p1=25&p2=137&p3=136&p4=195&p5=37&p6=166&p7=33&p8=235&p9=248&p10=108&p11=47 13:39:08 Please see Atlanta timezone first then your timezone. 13:39:34 suh, it might be 02:40 - 03:20 am on Tuesday... 13:40:04 late 13:40:10 Note that the time was determined according to the input on the bottom 13:42:10 Back to PTG topics... 13:42:33 Jakarat time is 2 hours behind Seoul and Tokyo 13:43:00 eumel8, the first discussion will be with Horizon strings. I have talked with Docs team and they did not have test instances such as similar with translation checksite 13:43:26 ok 13:43:47 we had the same discussion in DE team 13:44:00 test platform for docs 13:44:33 eumel8, oh good. Would you share some discussion to us later (not now since you are in parrllel meetings) 13:45:03 there are only requirements 13:45:19 For i18n team, please see "(for docs and i18n)" tag on Etherpad 13:45:19 maybe we can talk more on PTG 13:45:30 eumel8, yep :) 13:45:41 and it would be easier as translation checksite 13:46:52 Moreover on Tuesday I will try to make schedule to go to release-management team to discuss with ttx (release models & stringFreezes) and also horizon team ( robcresswell + others) to discuss it & more on string changes 13:47:08 ok 13:47:32 The room is mainly for Docs+I18n but I would like to make myself more flexibility on Tuesday 13:47:58 #topic Planning the next translation priorities 13:48:27 I18n team usually decided translation priorities during Design Summit. 13:48:57 Since release cycle has been slightly modified, we now have two choices: 13:49:09 1) Discussing during PTG period via online 13:49:43 2) Translating Documentation like AS-IS and discuss & decide translation priorities during Forum (May - Boston) 13:49:58 eumel8, suh, zzxwill_ which method do you prefer? 13:50:06 s/method/timing 13:50:45 1 13:50:47 sorry, no idea so far 13:50:56 1 13:51:15 But.. online seems be too difficult 13:51:47 not sure, if my journey to Boston will go well 13:52:03 eumel8, yep that's another concern 13:52:13 better if decided earlier 13:52:30 2 should be better, of course 13:52:56 zzxwill: also true 13:53:23 eumel8, zzxwill__ thanks for your opinions :) Hmm let's discuss again on the next week :) 13:53:31 #topic Zanata upgrade 13:53:44 #link translate.openstack.org 13:53:51 #undo 13:53:52 Removing item from minutes: #link translate.openstack.org 13:53:57 #link https://translate-dev.openstack.org/ 13:54:22 #info translate-dev.o.o now runs with Zanata 3.9.6! 13:54:45 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-zanata-test-for-translate-dev 13:54:53 3.75 in production? 13:55:03 3.7.5 13:55:07 zzxwill__, no production is 3.7.3 and dev is 3.9.6 13:55:35 I am testing now and currently I have found that re-import of glossaries is needed 13:55:37 Got it:) 13:55:46 Except that data migration seems to be fine 13:55:54 I will test remaining things soon 13:56:06 #action ianychoi will test Zanata 3.9.6 on translate-dev.o.o 13:56:14 #topic Open Discussions 13:56:33 zzxwill__, by the way, can we share Boston summit presentation URL? 13:56:36 I don't think so 13:56:51 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2017-February/001703.html 13:57:05 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/vote-for-speakers 13:57:16 Vote for speakers (Boston Summit) is now open 13:57:43 If you search "I18N" you will see some interesting I18N sessions :) 13:57:53 yep 13:58:01 Yes. Four presentations/panel for i18n. 13:58:27 That's all for today from me. Anything else to be discussed? 13:59:07 Nope from me. Thanks ianychoi 13:59:07 nope 13:59:11 thx 13:59:18 Thanks a lot today, zzxwill__ eumel8 suh and jpich ! 13:59:26 + robcresswell :) 13:59:27 ok 13:59:44 #endmeeting