00:03:05 <Daisy_> #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting
00:03:06 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Mar 20 00:03:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Daisy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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00:03:09 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'
00:03:27 <Daisy_> epico: how is the message ID progress?
00:03:51 <epico> Daisy_: I commented it.
00:03:58 <Daisy_> since only us, let's talk about the blueprint message ID.
00:04:07 <Daisy_> can you give me a link?
00:04:10 <epico> okay
00:04:30 <Daisy_> are you able to go the summit this time?
00:04:44 <epico> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-id
00:04:49 <epico> not, I think.
00:06:07 <Daisy_> What's your point in the blueprint?
00:07:02 <Daisy_> I think, some people don't agree with this one: filename#methodname#lineno, right?
00:07:20 <epico> I think the message id generation is hard to meet all requirements, so maybe just return the English version is okay.
00:07:34 <Daisy_> hehe.
00:07:34 <epico> yes, some one dis-agree with it.
00:07:49 <Daisy_> epico: how do you think of error code instead of message id?
00:09:17 <epico> Daisy_, will we need to manually maintain an error code list?
00:10:21 <Daisy_> I haven't thought much details. Error code and its docs could be generated automatically.
00:11:05 <Daisy_> if we use some special tag, and extract tag and comments into a document, I think, it will help.
00:11:38 <epico> I saw some commercial software did this, but they have a long list of error code, and developer need to check the doc every time.
00:11:50 <Daisy_> ok. You don't like it?
00:11:54 <epico> just some random thought, bicbw.
00:11:58 <Daisy_> hehe
00:12:07 <epico> not
00:12:19 <Daisy_> it looks like UTC 0000 maybe too early for some people to get in.
00:12:45 <Daisy_> I'm going to start the discussion about meeting and time in our ML.
00:12:47 <epico> the problem is when developers return the error code, need to check the list to return the code.
00:12:55 <epico> Daisy_, great
00:13:07 <Daisy_> yes, you are right.
00:13:28 <Daisy_> The exception name can help, other than a exception number.
00:13:39 <epico> maybe
00:13:52 <Daisy_> So maybe an error code in a text format may help other than numbers.
00:14:14 <epico> still a list to check in order to find the right one...
00:14:25 <Daisy_> Yes.
00:14:27 <epico> or just English one. ;)
00:14:36 <Daisy_> hehe.
00:14:49 <Daisy_> epico, I have to close this meeting if nobody else join.
00:15:01 <epico> no problem
00:15:24 <Daisy_> Thank you for joining. We can continue the discussion about IDs off line.
00:15:29 <epico> thanks
00:15:40 <Daisy_> Thank you.
00:15:43 <Daisy_> #endmeeting