15:00:31 <gagehugo> #startmeeting openstack-helm
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15:00:49 <gagehugo> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda
15:00:59 <stevthedev> GM
15:01:15 <megheisler> Gm!
15:03:50 <megheisler> \o
15:03:55 <lamt> o/
15:05:18 <gagehugo> Nothing on the agenda for this week
15:05:23 <gagehugo> #topic open discussion
15:05:26 <gagehugo> floor is open
15:06:24 <megheisler> A while back I talked about efforts by the board to include more inclusive language and change some more non inclusive language.
15:06:46 <megheisler> I noticed we added a blackbox-exporter right after I went through osh-infra through
15:07:13 <megheisler> does anyone have any issues if I work on a patch to change this to another name?
15:08:13 <megheisler> I didn't want to push forward on that without input from others
15:08:33 <gagehugo> It's a chart that runs this correct?
15:08:33 <gagehugo> https://github.com/prometheus/blackbox_exporter
15:09:04 <stevthedev> I wouldn't mind too much. What would you call the chart instead?
15:09:27 <stevthedev> As gage points out, blackbox-exporter is the name of the underlying project :/
15:09:29 <megheisler> Yes, that's correct @gaghugo
15:10:23 <megheisler> right, that's where my issue is, do we want to just change our name or do we just say it's not worth it because it's the project name
15:10:36 <megheisler> *our chart name
15:11:18 <megheisler> naming scheme for changes like this have commonly been to replace it with blocklist
15:12:04 <gagehugo> blockbox?
15:12:26 <gagehugo> I'm hesitant to change the chart name because it's literally the project's name
15:12:45 <gagehugo> Does anyone use the chart atm?
15:12:52 <stevthedev> I haven't yet heard 'blackbox/whitebox' discussed in this context. I'm not sure what a good drop-in replacement would be, that still conveys the same meaning
15:13:09 <stevthedev> I think our CICD team uses it or at least planned to at some point
15:13:53 <lamt> may be name it #000000box
15:13:57 <gagehugo> lol
15:13:59 <megheisler> It really relys on context and how we are using it
15:14:02 <megheisler> lol
15:14:36 <megheisler> Ok, I'll reach out to them and will circle back to the issue here when I have context on the use case
15:15:14 <stevthedev> If we can come up with a good alternative I'm not opposed to it. But we need to give notice to them if we change it
15:15:33 <megheisler> Good to know
15:15:36 <gagehugo> This one is odd because it's literally the project name, we'd have to at least reference the real name somewhere in the chart
15:15:55 <stevthedev> Right
15:16:23 <gagehugo> If the chart isn't being utilized, one option would be to remove it haha
15:16:51 <miniroy> \o
15:16:57 <gagehugo> thanks megheisler
15:17:04 <miniroy> sory was late... my fire alarm just went off
15:17:04 <gagehugo> Anyone else have anything for the week?
15:17:05 <megheisler> yeah, it would be imperfect to simply change our chart name. I have an ask out to some other members of the diversity board on this one with mixed answers. I think getting context of it's use i.e if it's used is a good place to start
15:17:10 <megheisler> no problem
15:17:26 <gagehugo> miniroy: are you staying warm?
15:18:18 <miniroy> trying to
15:18:21 <miniroy> while I still have power
15:20:47 <lamt> did you lose power?
15:21:05 <miniroy> luckily I was spared
15:21:07 <lamt> that's good to hear
15:21:08 <miniroy> they even botch the rolling blackouts
15:21:31 <miniroy> they said on the news they weren't able to restart power for those ppl
15:21:47 <lamt> ouch
15:21:47 <miniroy> so all those folks have been restart power for over 24 hours
15:21:54 <miniroy> without I mean
15:22:14 <gagehugo> that is not good
15:22:18 <miniroy> unfortunately Sangeet got caught in that so that's why he's not here
15:24:14 <gagehugo> thanks everyone, stay warm
15:24:16 <gagehugo> #endmeeting