15:00:10 <gagehugo> #startmeeting openstack-helm
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15:00:14 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'
15:00:18 <gagehugo> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda
15:00:20 <gagehugo> o/
15:00:28 <megheisler> \o
15:00:41 <lamt> o/
15:00:48 <miniroy> \o
15:05:25 <gagehugo> #topic wording changes for docs
15:05:49 <gagehugo> megheisler: was this you?
15:05:58 <megheisler> yeah, sorry forgot to put name
15:06:26 <gagehugo> no worries
15:06:44 <megheisler> but the Diversity wg had their meeting yesterday where it was discussed that the board is making efforts to change some problematic wording
15:07:01 <gagehugo> Is this the email?
15:07:02 <gagehugo> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017375.html
15:07:34 <megheisler> yep! So that meeting happened yesterday
15:08:03 <miniroy> I feel very "divided" on this topic naturally
15:08:03 <lamt> would this be find-and-replace only?
15:08:21 <megheisler> it's up to individual projects to decide if they're are tackling the issue but we have to evaluate how much effort it takes
15:08:49 <gagehugo> If that's the direction the opendev community is going, then we can follow suit
15:09:17 <gagehugo> megheisler: is this something you'd be interested in evaluating for OSH?
15:09:31 <gagehugo> I honestly have no idea how much we use the terms in that etherpad
15:09:42 <megheisler> yeah, I've started going through things and would be happy to head the effort
15:09:57 <lamt> cool
15:10:04 <gagehugo> awesome
15:10:42 <gagehugo> thanks megheisler!
15:10:59 <gagehugo> #topic Sync logging values with upstream repos
15:11:17 <gagehugo> This ps was put below the agenda for today so I assume someone wants to discuss?
15:11:19 <gagehugo> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/751896/
15:12:04 <gagehugo> I think we discussed this last week too
15:12:57 <megheisler> looks like it's merged so not sure what else there is to talk about
15:13:18 <gagehugo> yeah
15:13:39 <gagehugo> Feel free to ping me if anyone wanted to discuss that in #openstack-helm
15:13:46 <gagehugo> #topic libvirt TLS
15:13:55 <gagehugo> #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752125/
15:14:04 <gagehugo> lamt: I am curious about the approach here
15:14:38 <lamt> I believe an attempt was made a few years ago
15:15:16 <lamt> to secure the connection and the idea was to use socket instead of http/tcp
15:15:29 <lamt> I have to find that patch
15:16:03 <lamt> but there is probably a need to TLS libvirt
15:16:15 <lamt> or a want
15:16:28 <lamt> I will have to look at the  patch
15:16:33 <gagehugo> Yeah, TLS'ing libvirt seems fine
15:16:50 <gagehugo> I have concerns about having libvirt use an entirely different mechanism for TLS'ing than the rest of OSH though
15:17:38 <gagehugo> I don't see a flag for enabling/disabling it atm
15:17:49 <gagehugo> I'll leave a comment on the ps and we can continue conversation there
15:18:11 <lamt> sure - but one can argue why would we want an insecure deployment at the first place
15:18:33 <gagehugo> better performance?
15:18:47 <lamt> wouldn't  using socket be less messy than dealing with all the internal certs?
15:18:54 <miniroy> is there not an existing gate for TLS already?
15:18:56 <gagehugo> probably tbh
15:19:14 <lamt> Andrii has activated one I believe
15:19:23 <lamt> as experimental
15:19:33 <miniroy> so is there a new to create a seperate gate here?
15:20:00 <gagehugo> I think the plan is to enable TLS on the default gates
15:20:06 <gagehugo> we need to move to better nodesets however
15:20:21 <lamt> or...
15:20:22 <gagehugo> the 8gb ones seem to be pushed to their limits with TLS on
15:20:28 <lamt> we fix that multinode gate ;)
15:21:16 <gagehugo> That too
15:22:16 <gagehugo> Anyway, lets continue the conversation on that ps (and fix the gates too)
15:22:22 <gagehugo> #topic open discussion
15:22:28 <gagehugo> Anyone have anything else for this week?
15:25:24 <gagehugo> thanks everyone, have a good week!
15:25:26 <gagehugo> #endmeeting