03:04:54 <Yumeng> #startmeeting openstack-cyborg
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03:05:01 <Yumeng> #topic Roll call
03:05:08 <Yumeng> #info Yumeng
03:05:19 <Sundar> #info Sundar
03:05:31 <brinzhang> #info brinzhang
03:05:31 <xinranwang> #info xinranwang
03:06:01 <Yumeng> #topic Agenda
03:06:03 <swp20> #info songwenping
03:06:05 <chenke> #info chenke
03:06:19 <Yumeng> pls check agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CyborgTeamMeeting#Agenda
03:06:27 <s_shogo> #info s_shogo
03:07:57 <Sundar> Yumeng, since it is all virtual, what do you mean by a room?
03:08:04 <Sundar> I mean, for the PTG
03:08:18 <Yumeng> I have booked slots for Victorial PTG, please check the schedule and finish necessary preparations http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/014958.html
03:08:48 <Yumeng> Sundar: room is a zoom meeting room. ^^
03:09:08 <Yumeng> booked by the foundation, and we can use it during the time slot
03:10:42 <Yumeng> and nova and neutron agreed to have a Nova-Neutron-Cyborg cross project discussion on Friday from 14:00 UTC to 15:00 UTC
03:12:08 <Sundar> Ideally, we should discuss the Nova-Neutron-Cyborg proposal among ourselves first before we go to the cross project.
03:12:55 <Yumeng> Sundar: yes,exactly. that's also one topic I want to mention.
03:13:54 <Yumeng> shaohe will give us an introduction about this topic
03:14:36 <Yumeng> shall we make a zoom meeting(like one hour?) and record this introduction? if yes, which time is good for you guys?
03:14:53 <Sundar> Same time as IRC?
03:15:00 <Yumeng> I would recommend Tomorrow(Friday 2020/05/22)or another time better before next Tuesday(so that we can discuss with neutron and nova)?
03:15:38 <shaohe_feng> It is OK for me this meeting.
03:15:40 <Yumeng> shaohe_feng: do you prefer IRC or a zoom meeting?
03:16:01 <shaohe_feng> zoom meeting maybe is more better?
03:16:25 <chenke> zoom meeting +1
03:17:19 <Sundar> Zoom +1, hopefully with slides and diagrams. Background music not needed ;)
03:17:28 <Yumeng> ok.shaohe_feng,Then can we make it tomorrow at the same time as our weekly meeting?
03:17:49 <shaohe_feng> tomorrow it OK.
03:18:18 <Sundar> I have to leave 15 minutes early tomorrow, if it is the same slot.
03:18:29 <shaohe_feng> we can play music -_-
03:18:42 <Sundar> Can we start 30 min earlier?
03:18:45 <shaohe_feng> Sundar which music do you prefer?
03:18:59 <Yumeng> haha I'm fine with 30 min earlier.
03:19:04 <Sundar> shaohe_feng: Chinese classical ?
03:19:15 <Yumeng> what about others?
03:20:22 <shaohe_feng> 😄, you know Mandarin.
03:22:07 <xinranwang> it's ok for me
03:22:24 <s_shogo> it's ok >tommorow meeting
03:23:25 <swp20> ok for me.
03:23:59 <Yumeng> ok. chenke,brinzhang,and haibin-huang, is the time fine for you tomorrow?
03:24:16 <chenke> ok for me. Thanks.
03:24:40 <brinzhang> tomorrow moning 11:00 ?
03:24:52 <brinzhang> morning
03:24:53 <Sundar> 30 min earlier than IRC time?
03:25:04 <xinranwang> 10:30
03:25:27 <Yumeng> yes, UTC 02:30 (China @10:30 am Thu; US West Coast @7:30 pm Wed)
03:25:29 <chenke> 10:00 - 30.== 10:30 fine for me
03:25:32 <Sundar> +1
03:25:40 <brinzhang> I am not sure this time whether I am end my meeting in each Friday
03:25:43 <Yumeng> yes, UTC 02:30 (China @10:30 am Friday; US West Coast @7:30 pm Thu)
03:25:47 <brinzhang> I will join asap
03:26:08 <haibin-huang> ok for me.
03:26:31 <Yumeng> ok. good. then next topic
03:26:51 <Yumeng> PTG topic preview https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cyborg-victoria-goals
03:26:56 <Sundar> Yumeng, can you share the zoom URL for tomorrow?
03:27:49 <Yumeng> sure. I will share the link soon in we chat group. and also on today's meeting agenda.
03:28:27 <xinranwang> Can we record the meeting in case some one can not join in time
03:28:38 <Yumeng> yes, will do the record.
03:29:25 <Yumeng> Do we need to publish this meeting on maillist?
03:29:37 <Yumeng> In case others are intrested?
03:29:58 <Sundar> That is a good idea
03:30:13 <Yumeng> ok, then I will do that.
03:30:14 <brinzhang> agree send to ML
03:32:13 <Yumeng> among the 13 topics we have now. I would recommend that we submit some specs patches or some draft code patches for PTG discussion.
03:33:24 <Yumeng> In my mind, there might be some needs such preparations.
03:34:55 <Yumeng> Topic 3: support more operations in Nova; Topic 10 bind and unbind
03:35:13 <Yumeng> Topic 13 cyborg/neutron/nova sriov intigration
03:35:35 <Yumeng> since those need support from other projects.
03:36:31 <Sundar> Bind/unbind to running instance is not easy. It involves specifying a device profile in the Nova API, which means Nova API change. But I agree it is a worthwhile longterm goal.
03:36:47 <Yumeng> xinranwang do you want do disscuss in PTG? or we start later after PTG?
03:38:15 <xinranwang> Yumeng:  which topic
03:38:57 <Yumeng> xinranwang: Shelve & Unshelve
03:39:22 <xinranwang> I think we can start disscuss in PTG
03:41:11 <Yumeng> ok. then I will add this topic to nova-cyborg disscussion too.
03:41:24 <xinranwang> Sundar:  do we need unbind a accelerator when shelve an instance
03:41:26 <Yumeng> you can also update here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-victoria-ptg
03:41:57 <Sundar> xinranwang: Yes.
03:42:31 <Sundar> Unbind, may be even delete the ARQ, so that it doesn't consume resources when not in use
03:42:35 <brinzhang> shelve & unshelve I have summitted a patch, and the resuce/paused being in search
03:42:57 <brinzhang> shelve/unshelve see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729563/
03:43:31 <brinzhang> suspend/resume are in searching
03:44:39 <brinzhang> swp20 and I will completed these works to support in nova
03:45:27 <xinranwang> Ok, it seems brin is working on it.  It's ok for me
03:45:59 <swp20> yeah, iam verifing the patch.
03:47:00 <Yumeng> ok. Thanks xinranwang brinzhang and swp20. good we have progress.
03:47:31 <brinzhang> I talked with sean mooney, he working on rebuild/evacuate, maybe he will busy on NUMA in placement, and we will update his patch, and continue these works.
03:48:23 <Yumeng> brinzhang: so you will do the Shelve & Unshelve, bind/unbind, right? sean will work on rebuild/evacuate
03:49:11 <brinzhang> Now in shelve/unshelve, later will be supend/resume, mainly in these instance actions
03:49:38 <brinzhang> bind/unbind incloud in their logical.
03:50:13 <brinzhang> bind/unbind now we are not start yet, that need time todo...
03:50:52 <brinzhang> s/incloud/contains
03:52:19 <brinzhang> if someone have time to do bind/unbind with runing or stopped instance, that he/she can do
03:53:19 <xinranwang> it seems shelve/unshelve depends on bind/unbind, shall we do bind/unbind first?
03:53:46 <brinzhang> xinranwang: no, sheleve need to delete the arq binding in shelve offload and it need to claim(in placmemnt) the acclerateor and bind arques on unshelve
03:54:16 <xinranwang> Ok, got it.
03:54:41 <brinzhang> you can review my poc patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729563/
03:55:22 <xinranwang> For bind/unbind with runing or stopped instance, it requires nova API change, right
03:55:31 <xinranwang> ok
03:56:19 <brinzhang> xinranwang: yes, that is an indenant operations, I think
03:56:32 <brinzhang> maybe swp20 clear with that
03:57:01 <xinranwang> Ok, so maybe we can discuss it during PTG as well
03:57:04 <brinzhang> s/indenant/independent
03:57:59 <brinzhang> yeah, I think we should support the unspport operation in nova, then consider to support bind/unbind ARQs from an instance
03:58:48 <brinzhang> xinranwang: so it's not crash, more info that we can talked with swp20 by wechat
03:58:56 <swp20> xinran: let's discuss in tomorrow zoom meeting.
03:58:57 <xinranwang> yes, sure
03:59:17 <xinranwang> ok
03:59:50 <brinzhang> I have nothing to discuss today ^
04:00:01 <brinzhang> good launch all~
04:00:31 <Sundar> Bye everybody
04:00:36 <swp20> xinran: we can discuss in wechat first.^^
04:00:37 <Yumeng> Ok. great! Time is up and we've  finish all the main topics.
04:01:07 <Yumeng> #topic AoB
04:01:16 <Yumeng> Does anybody want to bring up anything else?
04:02:33 <Yumeng> Seems nope. If nothing else, let's wrap up this meeting and see you tomorrow.
04:03:10 <Yumeng> Thank you guys! Have a good day or night!
04:03:15 <Yumeng> Bye
04:03:32 <Yumeng> #endmeeting