23:01:38 #startmeeting openstack-community 23:01:39 Meeting started Wed Jul 17 23:01:38 2013 UTC. The chair is reed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:01:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 23:01:43 The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_community' 23:01:56 alright, let's review the agenda 23:02:24 #topic actions from last meeting 23:03:04 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_community/2013/openstack_community.2013-07-10-23.06.html 23:03:07 fifieldt, you had to dicuss translation of ask at I18N meeting: 23:03:12 indeed 23:03:24 I did 23:03:28 and it was successful 23:03:38 those who are present are taking the task to their communities 23:04:01 I think we should followup soon, though 23:04:06 to see how their discussions went 23:04:14 specifically in china, france, japan, korea 23:04:23 and possibly spanish language community 23:04:37 good and from my action item, I asked Evgeny and he says there is no downtime to put new translations live 23:04:45 brilliant :) 23:05:17 I have also added a link to the AskModerators wiki page on Ask.openstack.org 23:05:25 great :) 23:05:29 it's on the right sidebar on the home page and on the answers 23:05:41 not ideal still... 23:05:49 but at least it's a bit better 23:05:51 iterate to success 23:06:05 yeah, I still think we need more moderators 23:06:18 yes, that would be good 23:06:37 next topics? 23:06:58 well, one action item I had was to email the list about these pre/post summit events 23:07:07 and I guess that leads into the next discussion 23:07:09 ? 23:09:32 right 23:09:41 need we discuss, or are we waiting for JB to chime in as per what Lauren said? 23:09:52 #topic satellite events pre/post summit 23:11:33 so, there was a discussion on the list 23:11:39 several countries are interested in events 23:11:50 but there remains to be seen what the form of any events will be 23:12:12 right, I think now it's a matter of providing them some suggestions on people to contact and let them take the lead to see what can happen 23:12:22 yes, that's a good idea 23:12:56 cool 23:13:03 we can move to the next topic then :) 23:13:07 coolo 23:13:21 #topic evaluate pending issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-community 23:13:37 i've been working with Evgeny, bitergia and zagile on those 23:13:53 cheers 23:14:05 all the bugs are up to date with comments and status 23:14:30 good 23:14:52 unless there is something outstanding there, I'd move to the next step 23:14:55 sure 23:14:57 s/step/topic 23:15:09 #topic how to help developers consuming API 23:15:20 was there any progress on this? 23:15:50 I think we're going to work on the Getting Started page together at OSCON 23:15:57 there's also a scoping discussion on the docs list 23:16:12 makes sense 23:16:13 I also had a quick look for a Go SDK 23:16:20 and was disappointed with the results 23:16:23 but overall progress is slow 23:16:32 there was talk of getting a designer in for docs.openstack.org 23:16:39 to make the split between ops and dev better 23:16:49 so: "slow progress" 23:17:35 not a problem, as long as there is progress :) 23:18:00 aye 23:18:01 next topic? 23:18:05 Everett is also coming to OSCON for 1 day 23:18:08 so might try to meet then 23:18:11 and work at things 23:18:20 oh, that's great, we may schedule some time with him then 23:18:54 yes, was planning to call on arrival 23:19:03 feel free to do that in advance :) 23:19:22 i'll share my OSCON calendar with you so you can book time with him 23:19:47 cheers 23:19:48 #topic status report on other projects 23:20:25 #info Ask in Chinese is running on http://ask.openstack.org:9000/ 23:20:56 #info the askbot team is working on the theme to improve the language switching tab and the GUI in general 23:21:50 #info we need more testing although we have had some already, and the UI needs more translations (currently around 60% done according to transifex) 23:21:57 aye 23:22:01 #link https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/askbot/ 23:22:39 that's pretty much it for Askbot in Chinese... I think we're getting ready for a wider deployment, maybe already after OSCON 23:22:50 sounds good 23:23:10 I think we can launch and keep iterating, improving search results and translations as we go 23:23:40 agreed 23:24:03 #info project User Group Portal: contract is under legal review, ETA end of the week 23:24:16 great! 23:24:22 awesome 23:24:26 hopefully we'll start development after OSCON realistically 23:24:37 s/hopefully// 23:25:59 #info other project: migration of General mailing list off of Launchpad is slowly proceeding, hit a roadblock, found another volunteer to help, hopefully will pick up more speed 23:26:10 great news :D 23:26:36 I sent an email to the list with a brief update 23:27:09 right 23:27:34 anything else? 23:29:00 im good, thanks for the updates 23:29:06 * fifieldt scratches head 23:29:14 #topic various 23:29:49 a lot of 3rd birthday celebrations tonight :) 23:29:54 hope y'all can get to one 23:30:13 I'll throw it out there: I received a couple more requests this past week to advertise projects like the webdav frontend to swift 23:30:23 eg caimito? 23:30:29 and I remembered the project http://stackmeat.org 23:30:41 ah, that ! 23:30:52 fifieldt, right, and another project too... the Java swing UI alternative to horizon 23:30:57 pandora I think 23:31:01 that's the one 23:31:03 by Peter in HK 23:31:06 so advertise? 23:31:09 right 23:31:11 through user groups? 23:31:23 advertise stackmeat? 23:31:30 or advertise random projects? 23:32:41 promote projects that use openstack or build on top of it, improve 23:32:49 all the stuff that is on stackforge for example 23:33:05 there are no easy places for them 23:33:34 I like the idea of "X-on-OpenStack" as a concept we should give more attention to 23:33:37 we have discussed about something like an appstore 23:33:46 though I worry that the number of Xs will increase by quite a lot 23:34:15 so maybe it's a gradual move from promoting "here's an exciting X" to "here's a place where you can find all the Xs" 23:34:42 quality control? 23:34:43 the former encourages people to build Xs in these 'early days', the latter find ones they can use 23:34:46 fifieldt, that's why I mentioned stackmeat: it could be the place where all the X can go 23:34:55 I agree sarob, quality is important 23:35:05 have a chat to everett about hit vetting process for SDKs 23:35:25 sarob, the concept of 'store' needs quality control while the stackmeat approach is more like 'here is a directory, sort it out yourself' 23:35:36 steakmeat versus stackmeat 23:35:44 * sarob me pun 23:35:46 :D 23:35:47 win 23:36:01 * fifieldt notes that his flight is delayed 30mins 23:36:08 * reed doesn't get the pun :( 23:36:31 we can let stackmeat grow, maybe link through, while discussing something like an appstore 23:37:07 id want something like the TC reviewing 23:37:19 I wanted to mention it only to start the conversation... i'll pull Marton in it next week... or the week after, better to see what he thinks 23:37:23 rather than apple ;) 23:37:30 :D 23:37:49 conversation start: success, I'd say :) 23:37:50 despite who does the review, it's a *lot* of work 23:38:37 yup, maybe the next steps for the refstack fits tests 23:39:12 there would need to be some kind of automation 23:39:52 sarob, are you referring to the SDKs? 23:40:35 no, test to run through the api and code and return a score 23:40:50 on a directory like stackmeat there could be things like chef cookbooks, tools like crowbar... how would refstack test those? 23:40:56 * fifieldt doesn't understand either 23:41:50 if there are 50 apps that can run on top of openstack, how to tell which is quality? 23:42:25 does it meet its stated purpose well, has it been updated recently, does it install smoothly ... 23:42:31 android approach: they all suck, test them all until you find the one that sucks less :) 23:42:35 automation to validate responses to API could be a way 23:42:58 I don't see how that works ... 23:43:18 i call topic rathole 23:43:31 we should probably close the meeting and keep the discussion on #rathole :) 23:43:35 :D 23:43:51 could we add a stackmeat link below programs? 23:43:59 * fifieldt should probably go and find out if he's actually getting to USA today 23:44:07 yeah - there's already "other projects" isn't there? 23:44:17 sarob, on the wiki page you mean? 23:44:17 if we decide stackmeat is the way to go for other openstack stuff 23:44:24 yup 23:44:31 also, find out who runs stackmeat? 23:44:40 and whether it's still maintained/supported? 23:44:51 looks like mrmartin 23:44:54 yes, if we put stackmeat under the project's arms we may need to find also better places to promote it 23:44:59 kk 23:45:11 martin kiss 23:45:16 too easy then 23:45:17 ack 23:45:22 marton kiss 23:45:37 ok, thanks everybody for the discussion 23:45:42 #endmeeting