17:04:31 <davidkranz> #startmeeting
17:04:32 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jul 12 17:04:31 2012 UTC.  The chair is davidkranz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:05:18 <rohitk> hey folks
17:05:27 <jose> hey
17:05:37 <jaypipes> davidkranz: yes, here, but only for about 20 mins.
17:05:51 <jose> so just off the bat, i've had no time to work on the SwiftSupport branch, so no updates :/
17:05:51 <davidkranz> jaypipes: OK, let's get to it.
17:06:04 <jaypipes> davidkranz: cool with me.
17:06:04 <Ravikumar_hp> hi David
17:06:19 <rohitk> jaypipes: thanks for the sample code branch for whitebox, i should get my patch in my tomorrow morning my time
17:06:22 <davidkranz> rohitk: Are you going to finish https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9059/
17:06:51 <davidkranz> rohitk: Great. I have some resource stuff to go in after that.
17:07:32 <davidkranz> jaypipes: I looked at the Tuesday meeting logs and am a little concerned about this cinder thing.
17:07:34 <rohitk> davidkranz: apologies, was just tied up with parallel work
17:08:03 <davidkranz> jaypipes: Do you know what the testing status is?
17:08:03 <jaypipes> rohitk: coolio.
17:08:49 <jaypipes> davidkranz: Cinder == nova-volumes exactly right now, so Tempest actually doesn't need to do much more than add a little bit in for attaching to a volume endpoint (instead of using the compute endpoint)
17:09:01 <jaypipes> davidkranz: I told jgriffith that I would add the cinder test.
17:09:06 <davidkranz> jaypipes: OK, good.
17:09:16 <jaypipes> davidkranz: most of the work actually is in the devstack and devstack-gate side.
17:09:30 <jgriffith> jaypipes: And I've got devstack ready to go once gating is ready :)
17:10:34 <jaypipes> jgriffith: rock on.
17:10:35 <davidkranz> I think Vish could have said more clearly that this is not a real code or functional change.
17:11:02 <davidkranz> jgriffith: Maybe you should send another message clarifying that?
17:11:05 <jaypipes> davidkranz: yeah, the mailing list thread has now turned ugly with George Reese' latest message.
17:11:13 <jgriffith> davidkranz: Happy to
17:11:37 <davidkranz> jaypipes: Oh, didn't see that yet.
17:11:49 <davidkranz> jaypipes: But I can predict what it said.
17:11:53 <jaypipes> heh
17:12:15 <jgriffith> it was not very nice
17:12:29 <jaypipes> jgriffith: and clearly he didn't actually read the email.
17:12:42 <davidkranz> I think we are at the point of having real customers and have to work hard to avoid an impression that developers don't really care about that.
17:12:52 <jgriffith> jaypipes: I was going to respond with "so is that a vote for option 1" but thought I'd refrain
17:13:58 <davidkranz> I think there needs to be a specific set of hoops to be jumped through before real incompatible changes are made going forward.
17:14:02 <jaypipes> davidkranz: it's quite obviously clear we care about it... otherwise we wouldn't put out a mailing list post talking about the options! :)
17:14:43 <jaypipes> davidkranz: plus, these aren't actually incompatible changes we're talking about, as Cinder is an exact copy of nova-volumes at this point... it's more of a rename of part of the API than anything else IMHO.
17:15:00 <davidkranz> jaypipes: I understand. It is a matter of impressions.
17:15:40 <davidkranz> jaypipes: I didn't think any one was proposing to rip out volumes for Folsom until I saw this.
17:16:41 <davidkranz> jaypipes: Anyway, hopefully this will settle down and not happen again.
17:16:50 <davidkranz> Any more tempest business?
17:17:16 <jaypipes> not from me.... it's Bug Squash Day, so we should all be focusing on triaging and fixing as many bugs as we can (in tempest and core projects)
17:17:27 <jaypipes> /join #openstack-bugday if you're interested
17:17:41 <davidkranz> jaypipes: OK
17:17:50 <davidkranz> Any one have anything else for now?
17:18:20 <rohitk> nothing from me
17:18:42 <Ravikumar_hp> How about Swift test checkin ..
17:18:43 <davidkranz> OK. I added some comments to the etherpad from last week.
17:18:59 <davidkranz> I guess that's it for now.
17:19:08 <davidkranz> #endmeeting