21:04:39 #startmeeting 21:04:40 Meeting started Tue Feb 21 21:04:39 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:04:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:05:02 Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:05:27 #topic Actions from previous meeting 21:05:34 * anotherjesse to send post to ML after redux is merged into trunk explaining its impact 21:05:35 ttx: o/ 21:05:59 Did I miss it ? Or is this convered in the redux thread posted last week ? 21:06:21 ttx: I think it was covered in the email (the bottom half was about the changes) 21:06:32 but we want to send another once xml & ldap lands 21:06:37 (both in review) 21:07:06 ttx: if you feel we should send another one now we can certain do so 21:07:17 nah, it's ok 21:07:22 #topic Keystone status 21:07:28 zns: o/ 21:07:32 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-4 21:07:38 heckj and others have been being vigilant at hanging out in irc to answer questions as they come up 21:07:45 heckj: I marked rearchitect-keystone implemented as the branch was merged 21:08:24 Patches going in. Quiet on the email front after the merge, so not sure what else to report on. 21:08:46 Looking good so far. LDAP backend being implemented and I saw a few patches on migrations. 21:09:09 bcwaldon has got a patch to migrate from nova's deprecated auth to keystone as well 21:09:12 ttx: thank you 21:09:24 heckj: If there is any significant feature gap left, would be good to track it as a separate essex-4 blueprint 21:09:29 XML and LDAP support are actively being reviewed right now 21:09:40 anotherjesse: is that up on gerrit yet? 21:09:40 heckj: like those ^ 21:09:42 anotherjesse, termie, dolphm, heckj: anything note worthy? 21:09:58 Other than that, we're working to lock things down to just fixing bugs and integration issues after Essex4 drop 21:10:05 jk0: yes, there's a nova and a keystone branch 21:10:17 cool, thnx 21:10:37 ttx: will be shifting back to blueprints to track that once I've had a chance to wrangle the current ones and asses their state 21:10:59 On the bugs side, was the current list of 94 Keystone bugs reviewed to see if they still apply post-redux-merge ? 21:11:03 ttx: it's been more functional short term to use bugs to track what should be in blueprints (because of tagging in the bugs) - we'll be shifting back away from that shortly 21:11:05 jk0: yes 21:11:05 https://review.openstack.org/#change,4304 21:11:05 https://review.openstack.org/#change,4334 21:11:11 * is pretty sure heckj meant to say 'assess' * :-) 21:11:18 #action heckj to create BPs corresponding to major feature gaps 21:11:51 ttx: yes - a few remain to be reviewed, and we discussed an ongoing triage process (I do it weekly, everyone yells at me) at the keystone meeting for the near term as well 21:12:26 then it would be good to drop usage of the "redux" tag... and use essex-4 milestone targeting for selecting bugs instead. 21:13:19 ttx: already in the works - that was an action item from today's keystone meeting as well 21:13:32 Great. 21:13:34 zns, heckj: anything else ? 21:13:39 zns: and yeah, I'm a sloppy typist at speed 21:13:52 ttx: nothing else. 21:14:00 heckj - I hope you code slowly then 21:14:05 ttx: We're trying to push basic RBAC (policy, etc) into the release prior to E4 - working with termie on the specifics 21:14:30 ttx: will have a code for review hopefully this week, but need an keystone meeting to discuss some of the components to make sure we're all on the same page. 21:14:34 heckj, ttx: not providing a policy service, just making keystone do things the same way as nova 21:14:45 what termie said: 21:14:48 ^ 21:14:57 termie: sounds good. BP please so that we can track whether it lands in time 21:15:17 remember that we cut milestone-proposed branch for E4 EOD next Tuesday 21:15:23 that leaves little time 21:15:30 Questions about Keystone ? 21:15:44 ttx: I've got that 21:15:53 will the fat keystone extensions be ported over by E4? 21:16:28 gyee: I think the major one is the cert verification 21:16:33 same question for the middleware 21:16:47 gyee: we think ldap stuff will land, anything that large that isn't already in the patch queue sounds iffy 21:16:50 what about HP-IDM-serviceID? 21:18:10 gyee: some extensions are also less applicable now, so not all make sense to port 21:18:33 gyee: we can discuss in more depth in the #dev channel if you have time 21:18:45 right, we need to move on 21:18:45 do we have a list of what will be ported? 21:18:48 k 21:18:57 #topic Swift status 21:19:02 notmyname: o/ 21:19:06 hi 21:19:13 notmyname: Looks like there is time for one more release before inclusion into Essex final ? 21:19:18 I agree 21:19:22 like sometimes mid-March ? 21:19:34 ya. when is the cutoff for essex? 21:20:11 The release is April 5. Would be good to have your "release candidate" in one of the previous 4 weeks. 21:20:36 notmyname: if the cliauth blueprint change lands before your release we will have a single way for users to use an openstack cloud :) 21:20:45 thx for the help on that review! 21:20:51 ok. we'll shoot for middle/late middle march 21:21:00 anotherjesse: it will get in before the next release 21:21:39 lots of good swift news this week: wikipedia using it in prod, softlayer deploying it, swiftstack chosen for pycon startup row 21:23:31 notmyname: can I put a tentative 1.4.7 on March 22 ? 21:23:41 and we'll adjust the date if need be 21:24:18 ttx: 23rd (a friday) is generally better. although you know how I feel about setting dates so far in advance ;-) 21:24:29 and you know how I feel about Fridays :) 21:24:39 notmyname: Anything else ? 21:24:45 I don't have anything 21:24:50 Questions on Swift ? 21:25:15 #topic Glance status 21:25:20 jaypipes: yo 21:25:29 second in command, here 21:25:29 #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-4 21:25:42 bcwaldon: hi! Two blueprints left open: retrieve-image-from and progressbar-upload-image 21:25:50 almost there ? Remember this needs to be merged before EOD Tuesday, next week. 21:26:25 looks like they will land 21:26:33 I'll review them today 21:27:01 I did want to thank eglynn__ for stepping up and fixing some bugs that have been around for a while 21:27:19 no major news here :) 21:27:23 bcwaldon: np ;) 21:27:34 bcwaldon: Anything else ? 21:27:41 negative 21:27:44 Questions on Glance ? 21:28:51 #topic Nova status 21:28:54 vishy: hey 21:28:57 hi 21:28:58 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-4 21:29:02 I'd like to go through the remaining stuff, since most FFEs were given a deadline that is now past 21:29:12 * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/host-aggregates (Armando) 21:29:16 marked implemented, but has reviews open... What's the story on that ? 21:29:31 yeah 21:29:35 i was going to mention that one 21:29:37 https://review.openstack.org/#dashboard,748 21:29:58 so it was marked implemented too soon 21:30:15 the api etc was set with the first couple of reviews 21:30:21 ok 21:30:28 but there are various bugfixes/improvements to the underlying code 21:30:34 so those really need some attention 21:30:45 is it still on track ? and should be kept in Essex ? 21:31:18 yes, most of those are ready to go in 21:31:35 I'm going through them today, but they could use eyes from another core dev or 2 21:31:45 * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/keystone-export-rewrite (bcwaldon) 21:31:49 should have been unblocked by redux merge... Status ? 21:32:13 needs review here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4334 21:32:20 it wasn't linked to the blueprint properly 21:32:29 i pushed up a minute ago with a proper link 21:32:40 the other blocked one i moved out of essex, since the migration plan depends on dep. auth 21:32:47 so we can't pull it until folsom 21:33:56 vishy: you mean, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-deprecated-auth ? 21:34:07 yes 21:34:14 ok 21:34:19 * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/scaling-zones (comstud) 21:34:22 Are all the essex-4 tasks completed ? 21:34:31 I think so. I marked it implemented 21:34:58 * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nexenta-volume-driver (Oleg) 21:35:01 Looks like it's "almost there"... should we extend the FFe ? 21:35:44 ttx: i haven't gotten a chance to look at it since getting back 21:35:48 but it looked close 21:35:53 when i left on thursday 21:36:00 ok, let's keep it in scope 21:36:06 * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/zeromq-rpc-driver (ewindisch) 21:36:18 Looks like it's still a bit far away, and the deadline is over. Extend or postpone ? 21:36:37 I think it's ready for review, there were a lot of updates to it today 21:36:52 given that that implementation is not intended for production use (yet) it wouldn't hurt to postpone it if its not ready 21:37:04 russellb: is there any reason why it needs to hit in essex? 21:37:17 I don't think anyone will reasonably be using it for production 21:37:27 no, not IMO, anyway 21:37:53 i don't really see the drawback of delaying it until folsom 21:37:59 agreed 21:38:03 between E4 bug fixes and stable backports, it can be made stable for production 21:38:25 ewindisch: but is anyone planning on using it? 21:38:37 ewindisch: it seems more like an experimental feature right now 21:38:46 if it's experimental anyway, it can live in a specific branch 21:38:56 ewindisch: I assume you already have it in your product builds - having it land in F seems better from a support perspective 21:39:43 my main problem is that it is becoming a hassle to maintain whenever RPC changes happen. I suppose that won't happen too much more in the Essex timeframe, though. 21:40:06 just today, Russell proposed a change that would require changes to the zeromq driver. 21:40:29 which one? 21:41:11 vishy: I'm for postponing. Your call ? 21:41:14 I0e5aff2e8a40ffd8390c0e19d89dd17e60a74130 21:41:26 i'm leaning to postpone 21:41:44 * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/netapp-volume-driver (Robert Esker) 21:41:51 This one was abandoned due to absence of activity. Folsom too ? 21:42:06 they keep threatening to bring it back 21:42:13 but it seems like it is taking too long 21:42:28 i guess a branch for that one as well 21:42:32 right 21:42:46 On the bugs side, there are a few essex-4 targeted bugs that don't have clear assignee... 21:43:01 See list at https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-4 21:43:15 #help assign yourself unassigned bugs on https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-4 21:43:26 vishy: Anything else ? 21:43:41 nope 21:43:47 don't forget to review! 21:43:49 Nova subteam leads: anything on your side ? 21:43:55 Questions on Nova ? 21:44:19 devstack has been getting lots of attention for XS/XCP support as well as some integration work towards supporting fedora 21:44:49 would be nice to work with the CI team to test XS/XCP (and LXC) deploys of openstack as well as KVM 21:45:38 Also what is the status of getting an 'official' openstack chef recipes repo setup? 21:46:24 jog0: I think jaypipes might be able to speak to that 21:46:49 jog0: you mean for diablo/stable? 21:47:02 for both Essex and diablo/stable 21:47:07 jog0: (since github.com/openstack/openstack-chef IS the official repo) 21:47:34 ok, let's move on 21:47:34 jog0: but that repo only has current development trunk, not stable/diablo 21:47:43 #topic Horizon status 21:47:47 devcamcar: o/ 21:47:52 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-4 21:47:52 thanks jaypipes 21:47:53 o/ 21:47:59 6 blueprints left, and one week left -- everything still on track ? 21:48:17 so for the most part we are down to just bug fixes - most blueprints are trivial changes relating to django 1.4 dropping 21:48:29 beta 1 just dropped so we are technically unblocked though we were hoping for an RC by now 21:48:40 How far away is the essential ec2-credentials-download ? 7 days left to merge it. 21:48:42 it'll be there before essex ships though so shouldn't be an issue 21:48:48 its late in the review stage now 21:48:52 should land any time now 21:49:09 Your list of 30+ open E4-targeted bugs still looks a bit daunting. 9 days left for those:) 21:49:11 we're also investing some resources into ensuring that django 1.4 lands in ubuntu 12.04 21:49:31 devcamcar: hmm. It's post-FF there 21:49:35 most bugs remaining are trivial and i expect we'll get through most of those 21:49:53 i have a guy that is working with both the django and ubuntu community on it 21:50:02 ok 21:50:02 seems doable so far but we'll see 21:50:16 devcamcar: Anything else ? 21:50:21 question about process - 21:50:51 the period between e4 landing and essex shipping - we currently have basically no work planned for that period 21:50:55 which i'm assuming is a good thing 21:51:17 if we have a bug that slips past e4 we can fix before what date? 21:51:33 devcamcar: sure. the plan is to produce release candidates until one looks "good enough" 21:51:42 great, we will be golden then 21:51:43 at that point we cut a release branch 21:51:53 and open Folsom 21:52:38 sounds good 21:52:40 ideally most projects would have their RC cut a few weeks before April 5, so that we are all set when we hit the deadline 21:53:01 Questions for Horizon ? 21:53:39 #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports 21:53:43 danwent, troytoman: yo 21:53:51 o/ 21:54:23 So for E-4, quantum is looking to get all features in and reviewed by today. 21:54:25 https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-4 21:54:39 we're good on having most things in, but still lots to review. 21:55:05 two items not already in review are for devstack, so not really release issues. 21:55:33 Also, not to bury the lead, but we got conditionally approved as a core project for Folsom by the PPB today. 21:55:39 yay 21:56:00 thanks to the PPB for a lot of great feedback on what will be needed for a successful transition from incubation to core 21:56:16 and a call to the community to help us out once Essex is out the door :) 21:56:34 congrats to the Quantum team! 21:57:07 thanks anne. that's about all on my end. 21:57:34 Any other team lead with a status report ? annegentle, mtaylor ? 21:57:50 Doc Day March 6th. 21:58:16 Need to work on Volume and Network replacements, maintenance of docs that exist as well as adding new. 21:58:32 ttx: mtaylor is sick - perhaps jeblair is around 21:59:20 #topic Open discussion 21:59:24 Two things I wanted to mention... 21:59:28 First, we have elections coming up. 21:59:35 #info For the PPB election, remember you need to register to vote, using the following website: http://ppbelectionsregistration.openstack.org/ 21:59:43 Second, the Folsom design summit. 21:59:50 #info If you're an active OpenStack contributor, you should have received over the week-end a personal invitation to the Design Summit. 21:59:56 You'll need that personal code to register for the summit. 22:00:03 #info Summit is invite-only this time: if you're a contributor (or want to contribute to Folsom) but weren't invited, you should ask your PTL for a personal invitation code 22:00:15 Anything else, anyone ? 22:01:57 guess not 22:02:01 #endmeeting