20:00:25 <johnsom> #startmeeting Octavia
20:00:26 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr 11 20:00:25 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:29 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'octavia'
20:00:34 <johnsom> Hi folks
20:00:42 <nmagnezi> o/
20:01:38 <johnsom> Could be quiet today
20:01:45 <johnsom> I know a few folks are out today
20:01:57 <johnsom> #topic Announcements
20:02:06 <johnsom> TC elections are open
20:02:12 <johnsom> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129069.html
20:03:47 <johnsom> That is about the only announcement I have
20:04:15 <johnsom> Other than we got the first tempest plugin patch merged for LBs. (back to the future)
20:04:25 <johnsom> Anyone have anything I missed?
20:04:44 <nmagnezi> not that i know of
20:04:49 <johnsom> #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review
20:05:12 <johnsom> Ok, I have been focused on the tempest plugin patch.  Glad to have that merged!
20:05:27 <johnsom> I have also been working on a few minor bug fixes and reviews.
20:05:54 <johnsom> I have some gate work to do, then back at the provider driver work to move Octavia under a new-style driver.
20:06:35 <johnsom> Any other updates?
20:06:39 <nmagnezi> we (RH) were mainly focusing on final polish to Octavia related bits in tripleO and I still struggle with Rally (Rally-openstack now) to make it work for us
20:07:07 <johnsom> Yeah, I put the rally split in the "openstack" info section
20:07:19 <nmagnezi> noticed that :)
20:07:34 <johnsom> Let me know if there is some targeted issues over there that I can help with.  Second set of eyes or such.
20:07:52 <nmagnezi> thank you.
20:08:02 <nmagnezi> i sure will
20:08:25 <johnsom> Ok, if no one else has any updates to share, I will move on.
20:08:36 <johnsom> #topic Other OpenStack activities of note
20:08:44 <johnsom> Rally is splitting out OpenStack into separate repository
20:08:52 <johnsom> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129284.html
20:09:17 <johnsom> As you mentioned, Rally is making some changes.  I just wanted to raise it here since I knew you were doing some Rally work.
20:09:34 <johnsom> I'm guessing you were probably already aware.
20:09:51 <nmagnezi> thanks! yes. my patch is already ported to the rally-openstack repo
20:10:07 <nmagnezi> so when I finish we are good to go
20:10:41 <johnsom> +1
20:10:51 <johnsom> WSME is looking for maintainers
20:10:57 <johnsom> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129206.html
20:11:20 <johnsom> So Octavia uses WSME in the REST API. We use both the pecan binding and the WSME types.
20:11:53 <johnsom> So they are looking for folks interested in helping to maintain the project.
20:12:29 <nmagnezi> i will take a look at it, but I don't think I'll have any cycles to get involved honestly
20:12:31 <johnsom> I was just talking with Chris Dent about helping out there
20:13:01 <johnsom> Yeah, I indicated my involvement would mostly be reviews / gate fixes and not development focused.
20:13:17 <johnsom> Anyway, if anyone here has an interest...
20:13:49 <johnsom> If wsme goes completely unsupported we will have a bunch of work to move off of it, so...
20:13:58 <johnsom> Octavia deleted status vs. 404
20:14:09 <johnsom> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545493/
20:14:19 <johnsom> opps, that is a topic
20:14:27 <johnsom> #topic Octavia deleted status vs. 404
20:14:34 <johnsom> This is still open with no reviews
20:14:57 <johnsom> This is another poke that we need to pull this band aid off sooner than later.
20:15:38 <nmagnezi> sorry about that. It's an important patch. I'll pay attention to it.
20:15:51 <johnsom> Yeah, general reminder for folks
20:16:05 <johnsom> #topic Open Discussion
20:16:18 <johnsom> That was the agenda for today. Any other topics?
20:16:23 <nmagnezi> just one question in regards to this patch
20:16:28 <johnsom> Sure
20:17:03 <nmagnezi> what did we agree one API versioning here? do we intend to bump a minor version or this is just a bugfix?
20:17:25 <nmagnezi> also.. do to think it would make sense to eventually backport this?
20:17:35 <nmagnezi> (slipped another question, i know :) )
20:20:18 <nmagnezi> ?
20:23:58 <nmagnezi> netsplit?..
20:24:20 <xgerman_> o/
20:24:32 <nmagnezi> xgerman_, hi
20:24:41 <nmagnezi> xgerman_, i think johnsom might got disconnected
20:25:08 <xgerman_> :-(
20:25:36 <nmagnezi> xgerman_, I'll give it few more min before I'll trigger the bots to end the meeting
20:26:47 <xgerman_> k
20:28:05 <xgerman_> yep, johnsom cant see us
20:28:51 <nmagnezi> johnsom2, o/
20:28:57 <nmagnezi> netsplit :<
20:29:14 <xgerman_> huray!
20:29:18 <johnsom2> Hi, jumped in the web chat. I see the netsplit now
20:29:37 <johnsom> last thing I saw was "Thoughts?"
20:29:37 <nmagnezi> yeah
20:30:14 <nmagnezi> johnsom, i asked couple of questions about the 404 vs delete change
20:30:18 <nmagnezi> I'll just paste
20:30:24 <johnsom> Ok, thanks
20:30:30 <nmagnezi> <nmagnezi> what did we agree one API versioning here? do we intend to bump a minor version or this is just a bugfix?
20:30:30 <nmagnezi> <nmagnezi> also.. do to think it would make sense to eventually backport this?
20:30:30 <nmagnezi> <nmagnezi> (slipped another question, i know :) )
20:30:50 <johnsom> Well, it is a bug fix.  It also extends current behavior. The DB cleanup job in housekeeping will make these objects return 404 depending on the timing configured in the config file. So, we are kind of accelerating that timeline or making the API behave like it was a 0 timeout.
20:30:50 <johnsom> 1:20 PM I think we should bump at least a minor number for this though, to give folks a way to identify it.
20:30:50 <johnsom> 1:20 PM I also think it does make sense to backport it.
20:30:50 <johnsom> 1:20 PM For similar reasons. It makes the behavior consistent across deployments.
20:30:50 <johnsom> 1:21 PM Thoughts?
20:31:14 <johnsom> ^^ my paste
20:31:21 <xgerman_> +1
20:31:45 <nmagnezi> thanks for pasting
20:32:12 <nmagnezi> so I still need to review this patch but yes, make sense to me
20:32:12 <nmagnezi> +1
20:32:27 <johnsom> Ok, cool.  Feedback expected/welcome on the patch
20:33:12 <johnsom> Ok, any other topics today?
20:33:47 <johnsom2> o/
20:33:52 <xgerman_> made some progres son the proxy pligin — but we have a lot of patches in n-lbaas land to review
20:34:12 <johnsom> For proxy plugin or in general?
20:34:17 <xgerman_> in general
20:34:40 <johnsom> I have started to purge some of the neutron-lbaas patches that don't make sense anymore.  More to come.
20:34:48 <xgerman_> +1
20:34:52 <johnsom> Mostly working on it when I'm waiting on other things
20:34:57 <nmagnezi> +1
20:35:38 <johnsom> Also should note: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-issues
20:35:59 <johnsom> Nir and I crashed the storyboard meeting, but they didn't get to the agenda item today
20:36:17 <johnsom> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-issues
20:36:25 <johnsom> So, maybe next week
20:36:33 <nmagnezi> yeah. we were lurking in the channel but they just spent ton of times on.. well I'm not sure what
20:36:43 <nmagnezi> hopefully next week..
20:36:48 <johnsom> assimilation I think
20:37:31 <johnsom> Ok, if nothing else we can wrap up today's meeting. Thanks folks!
20:37:35 <nmagnezi> o/
20:37:53 <johnsom> #endmeeting