20:00:06 #startmeeting Octavia 20:00:07 Meeting started Wed Jun 8 20:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' 20:00:11 o/ 20:00:13 Howdy, howdy, folks! 20:00:13 Hi everyone 20:00:18 hola! 20:00:30 i already said hello, i will not say it again 20:00:40 #topic Announcements 20:00:41 o/ 20:00:48 o/ 20:00:50 o/ 20:01:02 Hi 20:01:14 So, I have an announcement. I will be moving from HPE to Rackspace in the next few weeks. 20:01:23 * Frito throws confetti 20:01:24 congrats! 20:01:27 Congrats, johnsom! 20:01:34 You're so going to be busy 20:01:42 no backsies! 20:01:49 I will be continuing to work on LBaaS/Octavia 20:01:52 :-) 20:02:16 Hopefully more than I have been able to recently. 20:02:56 o/ 20:03:05 That's great news, eh! 20:03:15 \o/ 20:03:17 Ok, with that out of the way, any other announcements? 20:03:28 johnsom.get() 20:03:36 hi 20:04:00 #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review 20:04:08 Ok, updates, etc. 20:04:15 another announcement would be that single create got merged in nlbaas 20:04:20 hi all 20:04:23 but also a progress report 20:04:25 * Frito has been focused on internal octavia stuff so nothing here. 20:04:29 Yep! 20:04:29 My progress report is I'm working on something internal, and until its done I'm frozen on other stuff unless I take personal time on it. 20:04:52 my announcement is I guess I'm a manager now 20:04:55 <_< 20:04:56 I poked stable folks to get the flask stuff backported, there may still be an issue in our revert code triggered by some taskflow validation, but we will need to watch that. 20:04:59 I've been trying to get through a bunch of patches; Got a bunch merged this week (mostly pretty small, except the single-create patch) 20:05:00 unintentional 20:05:21 Am likely to get pulled into more internal stuff again this week. But will try to hit any high-priority patches, eh. 20:06:05 I have a bunch of bug fixes waiting for review 20:06:18 So far it looks like our stable gates are happy again 20:06:18 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321413/2 20:06:21 Oh yeah! Single-create hype! 20:06:42 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324380/1 20:07:03 evgenyf: Mostly on the N-LBaaS side? I'll try to get to those this week. 20:07:07 Sorry for the delay. 20:07:09 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326403/ 20:07:16 $link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018/1 20:07:25 sbalukoff: Yeah all of them 20:07:35 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018/1 20:07:44 but they are tiny and should be easy to review 20:07:44 just making sure it's linked :-) 20:08:20 ive been noticing the scenario jobs are passing much more consistently 20:08:26 Frito: thanks 20:08:31 still working on neutron-lbaas stuff 20:08:36 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323188/1 20:08:38 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bug/1585116 20:08:40 reviews still outstanding 20:08:49 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318513/5 20:08:53 #link https://review.openstack.org/317692 20:09:01 #link https://review.openstack.org/308718 20:09:04 I have a couple patches out for minor bugfixes for idiots like myself that occasionally try to run this stuff under the latest LTS ubuntu. 20:09:07 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326723/ 20:09:41 Oh, the other one is in the process of being merged. XD 20:10:03 Good stuff! Thanks everyone. I really hope I can accelerate my review cadence again soon. 20:10:14 johnsom: +1 20:10:57 #topic Octavia / Neutron-LBaaS mid-cycle 20:11:07 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-midcycle 20:11:16 I think we are ready to keep moving. 20:11:36 It light of recent events, the week of June 20th is out for me (probably others here too) 20:11:50 Yep 20:12:02 (Getting minor surgery done that week at this point...) 20:12:12 Good luck on that sbalukoff 20:12:13 I will be visiting my new team. 20:12:14 For me, the week of Aug. 22 would be best. 20:12:19 TrevorV_: Thanks. 20:12:23 Ouch, yeah, good luck! 20:12:25 yeah I could probably do that... 20:12:26 Aug 22nd is probably best here too 20:12:59 And it looks like everyone (except me) wants it in freaking San Antonio 20:13:02 i perfectly fine doing a sprint from remote, so don't make any accomodations on account of me 20:13:05 Haha 20:13:12 blogan we're not. 20:13:14 o_0 20:13:30 So.... Week of Aug. 22 in San Antonio? Anyone vehemently against this? 20:13:34 the June dates were bc of me, or am i just giving myself too much credit here? 20:13:38 (Other than TrevorV_, who we ignore anyway?) 20:13:54 I'll remember this sbalukoff 20:13:58 I'll light your silly hats on fire 20:14:00 o_0 20:14:00 <3 20:14:07 TrevorV_, rm_work, a2hill: has anyone actually asked if we can host during that time? 20:14:17 blogan nope 20:14:21 Was waiting for an official time 20:14:21 how does one go about in doing that? 20:14:30 fnaval I'll get it figured out, you're welcome to help though :) 20:14:38 a2hill did it last time, so I'll figure it out this time 20:14:53 ok, ask a2hill how he did it last time 20:15:06 I will. 20:15:33 Sounds good. I bet I can get approval for that.. Grin. 20:15:40 :) 20:15:45 My current manager is out for most of the week, but I'll do what I can to get info from him 20:15:47 sbalukoff: can you? 20:15:53 can other non-rackers? 20:16:02 Can I get approval to come down on Aug. 22? Almost certainly. 20:16:28 I can be there and Im not a racker :P 20:16:36 I've already been pre-approved for it. 20:16:47 Excellent 20:16:47 oh is it SA? 20:16:51 I thought it was at sbalukoff's 20:16:52 lol 20:17:00 hahaha 20:17:18 rm_work: Boise in August isn't actually much better than San Antonio in August. 20:17:20 rm_work I wish it was at sbalukoff 's place 20:17:29 rm_work: youre gonna visit as earlier than you thought 20:17:35 sbalukoff hot isn't the problem, humidity is the issue 20:17:36 You're still going to see 100+ degree temperatures. 20:17:40 o/ 20:17:44 Aah. Well, yes, Boise is dry. 20:17:54 * xgerman had a lunch which ran over 20:17:55 sbalukoff: i actually expect this summer to be mild here with all the rain we've gotten 20:17:56 I should have said that, not "heat" in the etherpad 20:18:08 If people really want me to look into hosting in Boise the week of Aug. 22, I can look into it. 20:18:11 sbalukoff he got towed one time, his opinion doesn't matter 20:18:19 I'm good with Texas heat. 20:18:21 Is there actual interest? Would y'all RAXers be able to get travel approved for that? 20:18:38 sbalukoff no its fine, we can sort out SA methinks. 20:18:59 coudl always just do ireland right after the neutron one 20:19:07 as a plan B 20:19:11 That'd be pretty awesome. 20:19:12 I can host in Boise, btw. 20:19:25 dougwig you got the space? 20:19:29 Yep 20:19:31 Can we get a rough head count soon? 20:19:33 I probably can host in Cincinnati - we have an HP office 20:19:53 That's like suggesting Detroit. 20:19:57 Haha 20:20:09 Alright, I added a section for "headcount" 20:20:09 So, we are doing the LBaaS waffling, any issues with San Antonio? 20:20:13 I would love to do this in Boise, by the way. 20:20:18 we haven’t done something for the East Coast lately 20:20:23 I'd say throw your names on there and include where you can travel to or not. 20:20:30 +1 20:20:37 If Texas works for more, let's just decide on that. 20:20:44 I feel like probably SA is ok >_> 20:20:49 But, really, the important thing is to get more people who can contribute together in the same place at the same time. 20:20:49 there's a lot of us already there 20:20:51 if it will not be in SA from OSIC there will be only maybe one person, if will be here there will be 5 of us 20:20:54 I will ALREADY be in SA in August 20:21:17 Yeah, me too actually 20:21:29 diltram: Where is "here"? 20:21:38 I think we had the most "+1"s on SA too 20:21:41 diltram: are you in San Antonio representing OSIC? 20:21:48 sbalukoff "SA" == "here" 20:21:57 Oh! 20:22:03 Sorry, missed the "not" in that sentence. 20:22:07 So yes, SA makes the most sense. 20:22:07 OSIC is located in Rackspace facility in SA and Im working there 20:22:21 diltram is here in SA, look to your left 20:22:22 Ok, can we decide today? 20:22:24 Let's just do that. dougwig: Maybe in Boise in January? We could all go skiing... 20:22:53 sbalukoff: sure, Boise is available anytime 20:23:01 dougwig: The decision I'm hearing is in SA the week of August 22. 20:23:04 ah ok! 20:23:17 #vote Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August? 20:23:25 I'm in for sa on August 22 20:23:30 That's my story and I'm sticking to it. For the purposes of getting the final approval on travel, especially. 20:23:36 Add yes no. 20:23:48 johnsom maybe let people just toss a name in that headcount section and we'll count that as a +/- 5 peeps or so maybe 20:23:49 yes 20:24:02 #vote yes 20:24:07 #startvote Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August? Yes, No, Maybe 20:24:08 Begin voting on: Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe. 20:24:09 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:24:10 #vote yes 20:24:12 we doing 4 days or 3 days this time? 20:24:13 I'm in SA but am looking at having a very hectic aug -> jan2017 20:24:15 #vote Yes 20:24:16 #vote Yes 20:24:17 #vote yes 20:24:18 #vote yes 20:24:22 #vote yes 20:24:23 #vote maybe 20:24:23 #vote Maybe 20:24:24 #vote Yes 20:24:36 blogan I think you need to capitalize appropriately 20:24:36 Sorry, forgetting these darn commands. 20:24:43 #vote yes 20:24:45 #vote ys 20:24:46 sbalukoff: ys is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Maybe. 20:24:49 HAH 20:24:53 #vote yes 20:24:59 lol 20:25:03 Ok, going soon 20:25:10 #endvote 20:25:10 Voted on "Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August?" Results are 20:25:11 Maybe (2): Frito, blogan 20:25:13 Yes (8): diltram, rm_work, fnaval, johnsom, sbalukoff, dougwig, perelman, TrevorV_ 20:25:24 Well, there we go. 20:25:35 Yep. 20:25:38 Guys, can anyone take a look on a small bug fix in unit test that I have reported. It is almost about to be merged. Here is the link: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321398/ 20:25:39 Yay! That's done then. 20:25:56 do links need to start with #ilnk ?? 20:25:59 perelman: I'll try to get to that this week. 20:26:04 #topic Newton priorities 20:26:12 sbalukoff: you alread reviewed it 20:26:13 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-priorities 20:26:15 perelman: Oh! I already did! 20:26:30 johnsom: Thanks for filling that out! 20:26:38 So we started the etherpad last week. I threw some items on it. sbalukoff did you get time to look at that? 20:26:43 yes, but i think i need some additional +2, am i wrong? 20:26:48 (You got to it quicker than I could last Wednesday) 20:26:51 I think you were also going to add stuff 20:26:53 perelman: yes 20:26:56 Thank you Stephen! 20:27:02 johnsom: Yes. I didn't have anything to add at this time. 20:27:10 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321398/ 20:27:21 perelman to get the bot to record it specifically it has to be on its own line :) 20:27:29 Well... actually should we add UI stuff on there? 20:27:31 Probably... 20:27:45 testing stuff should be added 20:27:47 Ok, if folks could look it over and see if we missed anything today-ish. Then I can take a first pass prioritizing from my perspective and we can discuss. 20:28:11 ok, got it. Thanks! 20:28:12 Please add them. Do we have folks working on the UI? 20:28:36 johnsom: The IBM folks that were working on it got moved to another project. So I don't think we do right now. :( 20:28:58 Yeah, that was my perspective as well. Ok 20:29:14 #topic Open Discussion 20:29:19 Other items for today? 20:29:24 Oh! 20:29:37 So, I attended the Higgins meeting earlier this week. 20:29:41 I am sorry I think I missed somethine.... IBM guys that worked on what? 20:29:45 UI 20:29:50 ok, thanks :) 20:29:56 the great dougfish 20:30:09 sbalukoff yeah? You got some news? 20:30:14 They're very early in the process on that project, still defining core blueprints and stuff. Though it seems they're trying to position themselves to eventually be merged / become a plugin for Nova. 20:30:17 Should we pull the v2 ui? It seems to be missing some basic stuff, and is now idle. 20:30:20 Though that will definitely not happen this cycle. 20:30:28 They renamed their project to "Zun" 20:30:32 So... yeah. 20:30:42 sbalukoff Yes, Higgins. I'm interested to hear about that 20:30:59 diugwig there should be other companies with UI expereince 20:31:01 We'll see how quickly they can come up with something usable. I also pimped our use case so it hopefully won't be overlooked as they define their blueprints. 20:31:22 In other words: They're a totally new project, and it will be a while before they're usable, let alone stable. 20:31:23 I partly attended that meeting as well - seems like an engaged group. 20:31:30 dougwig I thought it was "basically" functional, just missing some features. Am I wrong? 20:31:39 But, they seem to have an enthusiastic team, mostly based out of China... so let's hope they're fast workers. 20:32:06 I doubt they'll have anything we can use in the Netwon cycle. 20:32:11 Newton. 20:32:27 Providers and edit 20:32:28 I agree as well 20:32:40 johnsom: ^^ 20:32:46 But! They seem to be starting with a better model / paradigm for how to fit into the OpenStack big tent and deliver useful container support than other projects. 20:32:46 Ok, thanks 20:32:53 So, I have high hopes for them. 20:33:07 dougwig It seems like it might be in someone's interest to add providers... 20:33:13 grin 20:33:30 A10 maybe? 20:33:39 Haha 20:33:40 Haha 20:34:04 Touché. But edit is a bug 20:34:09 sbalukoff fnaval Thanks for the info on Higgins/Zun 20:34:54 dougwig let’s file it and hopefully somebody will fix it... 20:35:58 Yeah, edit is a big one. 20:36:48 Ok, any other topics? 20:36:58 eranra: Any news on the active-active front? 20:37:07 I see a couple more people reviewed the blueprint. Thanks for that! 20:37:10 I see patches! 20:38:55 I pointed some internal people at that spec today too, just to get a different perspective. Hopefully they will also comment 20:39:13 I am adding patches for Active Active 20:39:55 I had a question with regard to patches.. 20:40:15 do they all go straight to the master branch? 20:40:24 yes 20:40:48 sg: unless you propose one to the stable/liberty ones, but usually thats just done through a cherry-pick from in gerrit 20:40:59 stable/* branches 20:41:00 not just liberty 20:41:25 should i upload patches to some other branch, not the master? 20:41:35 perelman: no master is correct 20:41:35 Nope 20:41:42 so master branch doesn't really have to pass any tests, right? 20:41:45 ok, thanks! 20:41:50 sg: no it should pass tests 20:42:22 It won't merge into the master branch until it passes the tests and the core reviews approve it 20:42:25 yes, tests are good 20:42:47 It will just sit as a patch against master, but not merged, until that happens 20:42:48 And we won't approve it if you don't add tests for new stuff you add / change. :) 20:42:50 i.e. if the tests fail b/c they are wrong, fix the tests too :-) 20:43:09 Yep! 20:43:11 ah, great! that's what I thought ^) 20:43:19 sure :) 20:43:20 every test should just be self.assertTrue(True) amirite? 20:43:30 blogan: That's what I did with L7. 20:43:31 maybe at RAX 20:43:32 * johnsom glares at blogan 20:43:44 blogan: I thought that was a trade secret... 20:43:46 ;-) 20:43:55 whoops 20:44:06 I hope there isn't an HR rule against glaring at blogan 20:44:06 if you invest 1 ban into cloud you strive for higher standards 20:44:12 btw, I've posted a few more comments to the mailing list 20:44:20 link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096393.html 20:44:21 johnsom: only if you glare then wink 20:44:34 would be great to get some feedback 20:44:36 johnsom: You can just ask HR for the pre-filled-out blogan or Frito form ;-) 20:44:36 if blogan thinks it;s harrassment 20:44:43 sg: Thanks for the heads up. 20:45:28 been meaning to read sg's thread 20:46:00 should that be # link sg? 20:46:11 Frito: do it! 20:46:20 :) 20:46:31 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096393.html 20:46:50 ha, distraction ftl :-( 20:47:15 Ok, we seem to be winding down. Anything else? 20:47:23 sg about that flow which is used to create lb - im currently working on that and it will be changed in next week, maybe two 20:47:52 diltram that's fine 20:47:53 diltram Are you re-merging the flows? 20:48:09 johnsom: im trying to fix this bug 20:48:16 diltram: I'm still at pretty early stages 20:48:18 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1552599 20:48:18 Launchpad bug 1552599 in octavia "PENDING_CREATE status caused by Quota exceeded for resources: ['security_group']" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lubosz Kosnik (diltram) 20:48:46 and also change all things which are commented in flows 20:48:51 Yeah, ok. I think that is a side effect of the split flow we had. 20:49:11 yesh 20:49:12 yeah 20:49:16 You can look at the failover flow to see how I did a decider flow the re-merges 20:49:41 great, I will take a look into this 20:49:48 Cool. I figured I needed to find time to do that, so happy to have someone jump in. Ping me if you have questions. 20:50:17 johnsom: sure, it will be nice to have some support 20:50:26 Nice, so one item on the priority list in progress. 20:50:54 Other topics? 20:51:19 Thanks folks. Have a great rest of your week. 20:51:20 Nope! Thanks y'all! 20:51:28 #endmeeting