20:00:06 <johnsom> #startmeeting Octavia
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20:00:11 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'octavia'
20:00:11 <Frito> o/
20:00:13 <sbalukoff> Howdy, howdy, folks!
20:00:13 <johnsom> Hi everyone
20:00:18 <Frito> hola!
20:00:30 <blogan> i already said hello, i will not say it again
20:00:40 <johnsom> #topic Announcements
20:00:41 <fnaval> o/
20:00:48 <TrevorV_> o/
20:00:50 <rm_work> o/
20:01:02 <eranra_> Hi
20:01:14 <johnsom> So, I have an announcement.  I will be moving from HPE to Rackspace in the next few weeks.
20:01:23 * Frito throws confetti
20:01:24 <fnaval> congrats!
20:01:27 <sbalukoff> Congrats, johnsom!
20:01:34 <TrevorV_> You're so going to be busy
20:01:42 <Frito> no backsies!
20:01:49 <johnsom> I will be continuing to work on LBaaS/Octavia
20:01:52 <eranra_> :-)
20:02:16 <johnsom> Hopefully more than I have been able to recently.
20:02:56 <evgenyf> o/
20:03:05 <sbalukoff> That's great news, eh!
20:03:15 <rm_work> \o/
20:03:17 <johnsom> Ok, with that out of the way, any other announcements?
20:03:28 <rm_work> johnsom.get()
20:03:36 <bana_k> hi
20:04:00 <johnsom> #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review
20:04:08 <johnsom> Ok, updates, etc.
20:04:15 <blogan> another announcement would be that single create got merged in nlbaas
20:04:20 <perelman> hi all
20:04:23 <blogan> but also a progress report
20:04:25 * Frito has been focused on internal octavia stuff so nothing here.
20:04:29 <sbalukoff> Yep!
20:04:29 <TrevorV_> My progress report is I'm working on something internal, and until its done I'm frozen on other stuff unless I take personal time on it.
20:04:52 <rm_work> my announcement is I guess I'm a manager now
20:04:55 <rm_work> <_<
20:04:56 <johnsom> I poked stable folks to get the flask stuff backported, there may still be an issue in our revert code triggered by some taskflow validation, but we will need to watch that.
20:04:59 <sbalukoff> I've been trying to get through a bunch of patches; Got a bunch merged this week (mostly pretty small, except the single-create patch)
20:05:00 <rm_work> unintentional
20:05:21 <sbalukoff> Am likely to get pulled into more internal stuff again this week. But will try to hit any high-priority patches, eh.
20:06:05 <evgenyf> I have a bunch of bug fixes waiting for review
20:06:18 <johnsom> So far it looks like our stable gates are happy again
20:06:18 <evgenyf> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321413/2
20:06:21 <TrevorV_> Oh yeah!  Single-create hype!
20:06:42 <evgenyf> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324380/1
20:07:03 <sbalukoff> evgenyf: Mostly on the N-LBaaS side? I'll try to get to those this week.
20:07:07 <sbalukoff> Sorry for the delay.
20:07:09 <evgenyf> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326403/
20:07:16 <evgenyf> $link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018/1
20:07:25 <evgenyf> sbalukoff: Yeah all of them
20:07:35 <Frito> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018/1
20:07:44 <evgenyf> but they are tiny and should be easy to review
20:07:44 <Frito> just making sure it's linked :-)
20:08:20 <blogan> ive been noticing the scenario jobs are passing much more consistently
20:08:26 <evgenyf> Frito: thanks
20:08:31 <fnaval> still working on neutron-lbaas stuff
20:08:36 <evgenyf> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323188/1
20:08:38 <eezhova> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bug/1585116
20:08:40 <fnaval> reviews still outstanding
20:08:49 <evgenyf> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318513/5
20:08:53 <fnaval> #link https://review.openstack.org/317692
20:09:01 <fnaval> #link https://review.openstack.org/308718
20:09:04 <sbalukoff> I have a couple patches out for minor bugfixes for idiots like myself that occasionally try to run this stuff under the latest LTS ubuntu.
20:09:07 <sbalukoff> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326723/
20:09:41 <sbalukoff> Oh, the other one is in the process of being merged. XD
20:10:03 <johnsom> Good stuff!  Thanks everyone.  I really hope I can accelerate my review cadence again soon.
20:10:14 <sbalukoff> johnsom: +1
20:10:57 <johnsom> #topic Octavia / Neutron-LBaaS mid-cycle
20:11:07 <johnsom> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-midcycle
20:11:16 <johnsom> I think we are ready to keep moving.
20:11:36 <johnsom> It light of recent events, the week of June 20th is out for me (probably others here too)
20:11:50 <sbalukoff> Yep
20:12:02 <sbalukoff> (Getting minor surgery done that week at this point...)
20:12:12 <TrevorV_> Good luck on that sbalukoff
20:12:13 <johnsom> I will be visiting my new team.
20:12:14 <sbalukoff> For me, the week of Aug. 22 would be best.
20:12:19 <sbalukoff> TrevorV_: Thanks.
20:12:23 <johnsom> Ouch, yeah, good luck!
20:12:25 <rm_work> yeah I could probably do that...
20:12:26 <TrevorV_> Aug 22nd is probably best here too
20:12:59 <TrevorV_> And it looks like everyone (except me) wants it in freaking San Antonio
20:13:02 <blogan> i perfectly fine doing a sprint from remote, so don't make any accomodations on account of me
20:13:05 <sbalukoff> Haha
20:13:12 <TrevorV_> blogan we're not.
20:13:14 <TrevorV_> o_0
20:13:30 <sbalukoff> So....  Week of Aug. 22 in San Antonio? Anyone vehemently against this?
20:13:34 <blogan> the June dates were bc of me, or am i just giving myself too much credit here?
20:13:38 <sbalukoff> (Other than TrevorV_, who we ignore anyway?)
20:13:54 <TrevorV_> I'll remember this sbalukoff
20:13:58 <TrevorV_> I'll light your silly hats on fire
20:14:00 <TrevorV_> o_0
20:14:00 <sbalukoff> <3
20:14:07 <blogan> TrevorV_, rm_work, a2hill: has anyone actually asked if we can host during that time?
20:14:17 <TrevorV_> blogan nope
20:14:21 <TrevorV_> Was waiting for an official time
20:14:21 <fnaval> how does one go about in doing that?
20:14:30 <TrevorV_> fnaval I'll get it figured out, you're welcome to help though :)
20:14:38 <TrevorV_> a2hill did it last time, so I'll figure it out this time
20:14:53 <fnaval> ok, ask a2hill how he did it last time
20:15:06 <TrevorV_> I will.
20:15:33 <johnsom> Sounds good.  I bet I can get approval for that..  Grin.
20:15:40 <sbalukoff> :)
20:15:45 <TrevorV_> My current manager is out for most of the week, but I'll do what I can to get info from him
20:15:47 <blogan> sbalukoff: can you?
20:15:53 <blogan> can other non-rackers?
20:16:02 <sbalukoff> Can I get approval to come down on Aug. 22? Almost certainly.
20:16:28 <diltram> I can be there and Im not a racker :P
20:16:36 <sbalukoff> I've already been pre-approved for it.
20:16:47 <johnsom> Excellent
20:16:47 <rm_work> oh is it SA?
20:16:51 <rm_work> I thought it was at sbalukoff's
20:16:52 <rm_work> lol
20:17:00 <diltram> hahaha
20:17:18 <sbalukoff> rm_work: Boise in August isn't actually much better than San Antonio in August.
20:17:20 <TrevorV_> rm_work I wish it was at sbalukoff 's place
20:17:29 <diltram> rm_work: youre gonna visit as earlier than you thought
20:17:35 <TrevorV_> sbalukoff hot isn't the problem, humidity is the issue
20:17:36 <sbalukoff> You're still going to see 100+ degree temperatures.
20:17:40 <xgerman> o/
20:17:44 <sbalukoff> Aah. Well, yes, Boise is dry.
20:17:54 * xgerman had a lunch which ran over
20:17:55 <blogan> sbalukoff: i actually expect this summer to be mild here with all the rain we've gotten
20:17:56 <TrevorV_> I should have said that, not "heat" in the etherpad
20:18:08 <sbalukoff> If people really want me to look into hosting in Boise the week of Aug. 22, I can look into it.
20:18:11 <TrevorV_> sbalukoff he got towed one time, his opinion doesn't matter
20:18:19 <dougwig> I'm good with Texas heat.
20:18:21 <sbalukoff> Is there actual interest? Would y'all RAXers be able to get travel approved for that?
20:18:38 <TrevorV_> sbalukoff no its fine, we can sort out SA methinks.
20:18:59 <blogan> coudl always just do ireland right after the neutron one
20:19:07 <fnaval> as a plan B
20:19:11 <sbalukoff> That'd be pretty awesome.
20:19:12 <dougwig> I can host in Boise, btw.
20:19:25 <TrevorV_> dougwig you got the space?
20:19:29 <dougwig> Yep
20:19:31 <TrevorV_> Can we get a rough head count soon?
20:19:33 <xgerman> I probably can host in Cincinnati - we have an HP office
20:19:53 <dougwig> That's like suggesting Detroit.
20:19:57 <sbalukoff> Haha
20:20:09 <TrevorV_> Alright, I added a section for "headcount"
20:20:09 <johnsom> So, we are doing the LBaaS waffling, any issues with San Antonio?
20:20:13 <sbalukoff> I would love to do this in Boise, by the way.
20:20:18 <xgerman> we haven’t done something for the East Coast lately
20:20:23 <TrevorV_> I'd say throw your names on there and include where you can travel to or not.
20:20:30 <xgerman> +1
20:20:37 <dougwig> If Texas works for more, let's just decide on that.
20:20:44 <rm_work> I feel like probably SA is ok >_>
20:20:49 <sbalukoff> But, really, the important thing is to get more people who can contribute together in the same place at the same time.
20:20:49 <rm_work> there's a lot of us already there
20:20:51 <diltram> if it will not be in SA from OSIC there will be only maybe one person, if will be here there will be 5 of us
20:20:54 <rm_work> I will ALREADY be in SA in August
20:21:17 <johnsom> Yeah, me too actually
20:21:29 <sbalukoff> diltram: Where is "here"?
20:21:38 <TrevorV_> I think we had the most "+1"s on SA too
20:21:41 <fnaval> diltram: are you in San Antonio representing OSIC?
20:21:48 <TrevorV_> sbalukoff "SA" == "here"
20:21:57 <sbalukoff> Oh!
20:22:03 <sbalukoff> Sorry, missed the "not" in that sentence.
20:22:07 <sbalukoff> So yes, SA makes the most sense.
20:22:07 <diltram> OSIC is located in Rackspace facility in SA and Im working there
20:22:21 <blogan> diltram is here in SA, look to your left
20:22:22 <dougwig> Ok, can we decide today?
20:22:24 <sbalukoff> Let's just do that. dougwig: Maybe in Boise in January? We could all go skiing...
20:22:53 <dougwig> sbalukoff: sure, Boise is available anytime
20:23:01 <sbalukoff> dougwig: The decision I'm hearing is in SA the week of August 22.
20:23:04 <fnaval> ah ok!
20:23:17 <johnsom> #vote Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August?
20:23:25 <dougwig> I'm in for sa on August 22
20:23:30 <sbalukoff> That's my story and I'm sticking to it. For the purposes of getting the final approval on travel, especially.
20:23:36 <dougwig> Add yes no.
20:23:48 <TrevorV_> johnsom maybe let people just toss a name in that headcount section and we'll count that as a +/- 5 peeps or so maybe
20:23:49 <diltram> yes
20:24:02 <fnaval> #vote yes
20:24:07 <johnsom> #startvote Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August? Yes, No, Maybe
20:24:08 <openstack> Begin voting on: Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe.
20:24:09 <openstack> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:24:10 <fnaval> #vote yes
20:24:12 <blogan> we doing 4 days or 3 days this time?
20:24:13 <Frito> I'm in SA but am looking at having a very hectic aug -> jan2017
20:24:15 <fnaval> #vote Yes
20:24:16 <TrevorV_> #vote Yes
20:24:17 <johnsom> #vote yes
20:24:18 <diltram> #vote yes
20:24:22 <rm_work> #vote yes
20:24:23 <blogan> #vote maybe
20:24:23 <Frito> #vote Maybe
20:24:24 <perelman> #vote Yes
20:24:36 <TrevorV_> blogan I think you need to capitalize appropriately
20:24:36 <johnsom> Sorry, forgetting these darn commands.
20:24:43 <dougwig> #vote yes
20:24:45 <sbalukoff> #vote ys
20:24:46 <openstack> sbalukoff: ys is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Maybe.
20:24:49 <sbalukoff> HAH
20:24:53 <sbalukoff> #vote yes
20:24:59 <Frito> lol
20:25:03 <johnsom> Ok, going soon
20:25:10 <johnsom> #endvote
20:25:10 <openstack> Voted on "Can you make a mid-cycle in San Antonio the week of the 22nd of August?" Results are
20:25:11 <openstack> Maybe (2): Frito, blogan
20:25:13 <openstack> Yes (8): diltram, rm_work, fnaval, johnsom, sbalukoff, dougwig, perelman, TrevorV_
20:25:24 <johnsom> Well, there we go.
20:25:35 <sbalukoff> Yep.
20:25:38 <perelman> Guys, can anyone take a look on a small bug fix in unit test that I have reported. It is almost about to be merged. Here is the link: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321398/
20:25:39 <sbalukoff> Yay! That's done then.
20:25:56 <Frito> do links need to start with #ilnk ??
20:25:59 <sbalukoff> perelman: I'll try to get to that this week.
20:26:04 <johnsom> #topic Newton priorities
20:26:12 <blogan> sbalukoff: you alread reviewed it
20:26:13 <johnsom> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-priorities
20:26:15 <sbalukoff> perelman: Oh! I already did!
20:26:30 <sbalukoff> johnsom: Thanks for filling that out!
20:26:38 <johnsom> So we started the etherpad last week.  I threw some items on it.  sbalukoff did you get time to look at that?
20:26:43 <perelman> yes, but i think i need some additional +2, am i wrong?
20:26:48 <sbalukoff> (You got to it quicker than I could last Wednesday)
20:26:51 <johnsom> I think you were also going to add stuff
20:26:53 <blogan> perelman: yes
20:26:56 <perelman> Thank you Stephen!
20:27:02 <sbalukoff> johnsom: Yes. I didn't have anything to add at this time.
20:27:10 <TrevorV_> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321398/
20:27:21 <TrevorV_> perelman to get the bot to record it specifically it has to be on its own line :)
20:27:29 <sbalukoff> Well... actually should we add UI stuff on there?
20:27:31 <sbalukoff> Probably...
20:27:45 <fnaval> testing stuff should be added
20:27:47 <johnsom> Ok, if folks could look it over and see if we missed anything today-ish.  Then I can take a first pass prioritizing from my perspective and we can discuss.
20:28:11 <perelman> ok, got it. Thanks!
20:28:12 <johnsom> Please add them.  Do we have folks working on the UI?
20:28:36 <sbalukoff> johnsom: The IBM folks that were working on it got moved to another project. So I don't think we do right now. :(
20:28:58 <johnsom> Yeah, that was my perspective as well.  Ok
20:29:14 <johnsom> #topic Open Discussion
20:29:19 <johnsom> Other items for today?
20:29:24 <sbalukoff> Oh!
20:29:37 <sbalukoff> So, I attended the Higgins meeting earlier this week.
20:29:41 <perelman> I am sorry I think I missed somethine.... IBM guys that worked on what?
20:29:45 <xgerman> UI
20:29:50 <perelman> ok, thanks :)
20:29:56 <xgerman> the great dougfish
20:30:09 <TrevorV_> sbalukoff yeah?  You got some news?
20:30:14 <sbalukoff> They're very early in the process on that project, still defining core blueprints and stuff. Though it seems they're trying to position themselves to eventually be merged / become a plugin for Nova.
20:30:17 <dougwig> Should we pull the v2 ui?  It seems to be missing some basic stuff, and is now idle.
20:30:20 <sbalukoff> Though that will definitely not happen this cycle.
20:30:28 <sbalukoff> They renamed their project to "Zun"
20:30:32 <sbalukoff> So... yeah.
20:30:42 <johnsom> sbalukoff Yes, Higgins.  I'm interested to hear about that
20:30:59 <xgerman> diugwig there should be other companies with UI expereince
20:31:01 <sbalukoff> We'll see how quickly they can come up with something usable. I also pimped our use case so it hopefully won't be overlooked as they define their blueprints.
20:31:22 <sbalukoff> In other words: They're a totally new project, and it will be a while before they're usable, let alone stable.
20:31:23 <fnaval> I partly attended that meeting as well - seems like an engaged group.
20:31:30 <johnsom> dougwig I thought it was "basically" functional, just missing some features.  Am I wrong?
20:31:39 <sbalukoff> But, they seem to have an enthusiastic team, mostly based out of China... so let's hope they're fast workers.
20:32:06 <sbalukoff> I doubt they'll have anything we can use in the Netwon cycle.
20:32:11 <sbalukoff> Newton.
20:32:27 <dougwig> Providers and edit
20:32:28 <fnaval> I agree as well
20:32:40 <dougwig> johnsom: ^^
20:32:46 <sbalukoff> But! They seem to be starting with a better model / paradigm for how to fit into the OpenStack big tent and deliver useful container support than other projects.
20:32:46 <johnsom> Ok, thanks
20:32:53 <sbalukoff> So, I have high hopes for them.
20:33:07 <johnsom> dougwig It seems like it might be in someone's interest to add providers...
20:33:13 <johnsom> grin
20:33:30 <johnsom> A10 maybe?
20:33:39 <dougwig> Haha
20:33:40 <sbalukoff> Haha
20:34:04 <dougwig> Touché.  But edit is a bug
20:34:09 <johnsom> sbalukoff fnaval Thanks for the info on Higgins/Zun
20:34:54 <xgerman> dougwig let’s file it and hopefully somebody will fix it...
20:35:58 <johnsom> Yeah, edit is a big one.
20:36:48 <johnsom> Ok, any other topics?
20:36:58 <sbalukoff> eranra: Any news on the active-active front?
20:37:07 <sbalukoff> I see a couple more people reviewed the blueprint. Thanks for that!
20:37:10 <johnsom> I see patches!
20:38:55 <johnsom> I pointed some internal people at that spec today too, just to get a different perspective.  Hopefully they will also comment
20:39:13 <perelman> I am adding patches for Active Active
20:39:55 <sg> I had a question with regard to patches..
20:40:15 <sg> do they all go straight to the master branch?
20:40:24 <xgerman> yes
20:40:48 <blogan> sg: unless you propose one to the stable/liberty ones, but usually thats just done through a cherry-pick from in gerrit
20:40:59 <blogan> stable/* branches
20:41:00 <blogan> not just liberty
20:41:25 <perelman> should i upload patches to some other branch, not the master?
20:41:35 <blogan> perelman: no master is correct
20:41:35 <TrevorV_> Nope
20:41:42 <sg> so master branch doesn't really have to pass any tests, right?
20:41:45 <perelman> ok, thanks!
20:41:50 <blogan> sg: no it should pass tests
20:42:22 <johnsom> It won't merge into the master branch until it passes the tests and the core reviews approve it
20:42:25 <xgerman> yes, tests are good
20:42:47 <johnsom> It will just sit as a patch against master, but not merged, until that happens
20:42:48 <sbalukoff> And we won't approve it if you don't add tests for new stuff you add / change. :)
20:42:50 <Frito> i.e. if the tests fail b/c they are wrong, fix the tests too :-)
20:43:09 <sbalukoff> Yep!
20:43:11 <sg> ah, great! that's what I thought ^)
20:43:19 <sg> sure :)
20:43:20 <blogan> every test should just be self.assertTrue(True) amirite?
20:43:30 <sbalukoff> blogan: That's what I did with L7.
20:43:31 <xgerman> maybe at RAX
20:43:32 * johnsom glares at blogan
20:43:44 <Frito> blogan: I thought that was a trade secret...
20:43:46 <Frito> ;-)
20:43:55 <blogan> whoops
20:44:06 <johnsom> I hope there isn't an HR rule against glaring at blogan
20:44:06 <xgerman> if you invest 1 ban into cloud you strive for higher standards
20:44:12 <sg> btw, I've posted a few more comments to the mailing list
20:44:20 <sg> link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096393.html
20:44:21 <blogan> johnsom: only if you glare then wink
20:44:34 <sg> would be great to get some feedback
20:44:36 <Frito> johnsom: You can just ask HR for the pre-filled-out blogan or Frito form ;-)
20:44:36 <xgerman> if blogan thinks it;s harrassment
20:44:43 <sbalukoff> sg: Thanks for the heads up.
20:45:28 <blogan> been meaning to read sg's thread
20:46:00 <Frito> should that be # link sg?
20:46:11 <blogan> Frito: do it!
20:46:20 <sg> :)
20:46:31 <johnsom> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096393.html
20:46:50 <Frito> ha, distraction ftl :-(
20:47:15 <johnsom> Ok, we seem to be winding down.  Anything else?
20:47:23 <diltram> sg about that flow which is used to create lb - im currently working on that and it will be changed in next week, maybe two
20:47:52 <sg> diltram that's fine
20:47:53 <johnsom> diltram Are you re-merging the flows?
20:48:09 <diltram> johnsom: im trying to fix this bug
20:48:16 <sg> diltram: I'm still at pretty early stages
20:48:18 <diltram> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1552599
20:48:18 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1552599 in octavia "PENDING_CREATE status caused by Quota exceeded for resources: ['security_group']" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lubosz Kosnik (diltram)
20:48:46 <diltram> and also change all things which are commented in flows
20:48:51 <johnsom> Yeah, ok.  I think that is a side effect of the split flow we had.
20:49:11 <diltram> yesh
20:49:12 <diltram> yeah
20:49:16 <johnsom> You can look at the failover flow to see how I did a decider flow the re-merges
20:49:41 <diltram> great, I will take a look into this
20:49:48 <johnsom> Cool.  I figured I needed to find time to do that, so happy to have someone jump in.  Ping me if you have questions.
20:50:17 <diltram> johnsom: sure, it will be nice to have some support
20:50:26 <johnsom> Nice, so one item on the priority list in progress.
20:50:54 <johnsom> Other topics?
20:51:19 <johnsom> Thanks folks.  Have a great rest of your week.
20:51:20 <sbalukoff> Nope! Thanks y'all!
20:51:28 <johnsom> #endmeeting