18:00:29 <markus_z> #startmeeting nova-bugs-team
18:00:29 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jul 26 18:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:33 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team'
18:00:38 <auggy> o/
18:00:46 <eil397> o/
18:01:04 <markus_z> hey ho, let's wait a second for others
18:01:39 <markus_z> #topic info round
18:01:53 <markus_z> #info 635 bug reports overall
18:02:03 <markus_z> #info 34 new untriaged bugs
18:02:10 <markus_z> #info no criticals
18:02:58 <markus_z> #info the review pipeline proposal didn't get yet attention from the cores:  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099096.html
18:03:24 <markus_z> midcycle was last week, I guess there was more important things to do
18:03:30 <auggy> haha
18:03:33 <markus_z> I'll ping folks end of this week if we want to try that
18:03:48 <auggy> was it on the agenda for discussion?
18:03:55 <auggy> i don't remember if it came up
18:04:17 <markus_z> I added it on short notice, but it's OK, there was a lot of other things which need more attention right now
18:05:06 <markus_z> #info the story board folks make some progress: https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/
18:05:17 <markus_z> If you want to play around, there is a "sandbox" project
18:05:43 <markus_z> auggy: you got any news from the midcycle?
18:05:46 <eil397_> markus_z thanks for link
18:05:58 <auggy> nothing bug related came up that i recall
18:06:15 <auggy> it felt like a really big midcycle compared to bristol though
18:06:19 <auggy> like, more people there
18:06:30 <markus_z> OK, I hope I can attend next time again
18:06:43 <auggy> lots of topics on the table and a number of cross team items that got a lot of discussion
18:06:50 <auggy> yeah me too!
18:07:16 <auggy> i didn't see any new contributors there so i didn't push to have a bugs process session
18:08:11 <markus_z> #topic last weeks action items
18:09:03 <markus_z> nothing serious, to be honest. The usual cleanup and asking for more information
18:09:38 <markus_z> unfortunately we didn't find a volunteer to look for new bug reports
18:09:57 <markus_z> #topic new action items
18:10:18 <markus_z> so, yeah, the usual question. Anyone got some time to look at a few bug reports?
18:10:26 <auggy> i can help out
18:10:36 <auggy> like, bug skimming or something more?
18:10:40 <markus_z> eil397: If you want to help, I can assist you when you got questions
18:10:50 <markus_z> s/got/get
18:10:51 <eil397_> markus_z.  I would like to help. yes
18:11:40 <eil397_> I can try to work with bug skimming
18:11:51 <markus_z> eil397_: awesome, thanks! It's basically checking https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&orderby=-datecreated&start=0 for new stuff
18:12:14 <markus_z> Here's a short FAQ: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#FAQ
18:12:46 <eil397_> markus_z. ok . 34 in queue. : - )
18:12:49 <markus_z> which timezone are you in?
18:13:05 <eil397_> markus_z i'm in pst
18:13:15 <eil397_> north cal
18:13:25 <markus_z> eil397_: yeah, no worries, just look at the most recent things. nobody expects you to clean that all up :)
18:13:48 <eil397_> markus_z. one is mine. it means only 33 in queue : - )
18:13:54 <markus_z> eil397_: OK, then I hope auggy will assist you when I'm in my bed?
18:14:01 <auggy> sure! happy to
18:14:05 <auggy> i'll work on some as well
18:14:17 <eil397_> auggy I will appreciate : - ) thanks
18:14:29 <markus_z> :)
18:14:45 <markus_z> which one is yours? just out of curiosity.
18:15:01 <eil397_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605742
18:15:01 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1605742 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Unexpected API Error. TypeError. Code: 500. os-keypairs v2.1 " [Undecided,New]
18:15:19 <eil397_> markus_z catch this on CI
18:15:42 <eil397_> s\catch\caught\g
18:16:03 <eil397_> markus_z . just Paramiko2.0 with mitaka.
18:16:06 <markus_z> Ah, very good one. The "unexpected API error", you will see that often in the next days :)
18:16:24 <auggy> i just skimmed it, looks like someone responded
18:16:31 <eil397_> markus_z. yeaah. I assumes that 99% of them are invalid : - )
18:16:32 <auggy> also they didn't mark it as a duplicate even though the mentioned it
18:16:53 <auggy> oh wait that was you
18:16:53 <auggy> haha
18:17:07 * auggy confused irc and launchpad names
18:17:17 <eil397_> auggy: not yeat
18:17:18 <markus_z> eil397_: no, not necessarily, but very unspecific. That's the "something went wrong" issue besides the "no host found" error message.
18:18:06 <eil397_> auggy : - ) I was nto sure who can amrk it as duplciated : - )
18:18:08 <markus_z> I'm going to check that report tomorrow and can give you hints how to improve the report so that you get help faster.
18:18:30 <eil397_> markus_z cool. thanks
18:19:01 <markus_z> If you don't have "Mark as duplicate" on the top right corner, you need to be part of the nova bugs team LP group.
18:19:13 * markus_z looks for the link
18:19:47 <markus_z> #link https://launchpad.net/~nova-bugs
18:19:54 <auggy> it's not entirely a duplicate because the other bug was for newton
18:20:03 <auggy> and this one is about backporting the compatibility change to mitaka
18:20:37 <eil397_> markus_z: I don't have "Mark as duplicate"
18:20:48 <auggy> i think the next step is to find out if Paramiko compatability was an issue in mitaka and if so, see what steps are necessary to resolve that issue
18:21:06 <markus_z> eil397_: Then you need to use https://launchpad.net/~nova-bugs and subscribe there
18:21:35 <markus_z> #action markus_z check https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605742 for better bug report description
18:21:35 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1605742 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Unexpected API Error. TypeError. Code: 500. os-keypairs v2.1 " [Undecided,New]
18:21:36 <eil397_> markus_z: ok. thanks.
18:22:06 <eil397_> markus_z: I will subscribe
18:22:11 <markus_z> #action eil397_ does the bug skimming (auggy and markus_z support when necessary)
18:22:11 <auggy> i wouldn't mark this one as a duplicate of that bug
18:22:31 <auggy> the issue is more like, backport paramiko compatiblity fix to mitaka
18:22:33 <eil397_> auggy: I'm sure that mitaka nova is not compatible. because i
18:23:08 <eil397_> i've checked it in source code.
18:23:52 <eil397_> auggy: not sure about policy. is it possible to backport from newton to mitaka ?
18:24:10 <auggy> eil397_: yes, we have a tag for bugs that fall into that category
18:24:21 <eil397_> auggy: ok. cool. thanks.
18:24:42 <eil397_> auggy: looks like i need to study categories : - )
18:25:22 <auggy> before this can be confirmed, someone other that the person who reported needs to verify
18:25:22 <markus_z> eil397_: The categories are these: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tag_Owner_List
18:25:52 <eil397_> auggy: tyvm for link.
18:26:14 <auggy> markus_z: you don't happen to know if the paramiko issue is in mitaka? i'm surprised it hasn't shown up in the gate before if so
18:26:36 <eil397_> auggy: does it mean that when/if someone will confirm it, it will be possible to start work on bacpport/cherrypick commit from newton ?
18:26:58 <auggy> yes, but it goes through 2 stages
18:27:00 <markus_z> I think I remember something from half a year ago, but nothing current
18:27:07 <auggy> 1) skimming, which is confirming the bug is a problem
18:27:12 <auggy> and reproduceable
18:27:29 <eil397_> auggy: paramiko20 with mitaka will not appear in gate becasue of requirements.  right now there is upper constrain for it
18:27:29 <auggy> 2) triage, where a subteam does root cause analysis and prioritiezes it
18:28:12 <eil397_> auggy: ok.
18:28:33 <markus_z> let's just do the last agenda point and wrap up the meeting
18:28:41 <markus_z> #topic open round
18:29:11 <markus_z> Anyone has anything for the "big" round?
18:29:37 <eil397_> i don't have anything for "bug"round.
18:30:06 <markus_z> FWIW, I need 2 days to work on a "serial console" thing in Nova and have hopefully the Friday for bug reports.
18:30:49 <markus_z> eil397_: I'm in the timezone UTC+1, in case you're an early bird.
18:31:01 <markus_z> OK, closing in 3...
18:31:10 <eil397_> markus_z: ok .I'm early bird
18:31:22 <eil397_> markus_z:have a good evening
18:31:35 <eil397_> auggy: have a good one
18:31:36 <markus_z> thanks, have a good day you both
18:31:41 <auggy> thanks! you all too!
18:31:51 <markus_z> next meeting      August 2nd (Tuesday) 0800 UTC, #openstack-meeting-4 (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160802T080000)
18:31:59 <markus_z> #endmeeting