08:00:54 <markus_z> #startmeeting nova-bugs-team
08:00:55 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jul 19 08:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:01:09 <andrearosa> hi
08:01:23 <markus_z> hey andrearosa
08:01:28 <markus_z> let's wait a minute for others to join
08:01:32 <andrearosa> ok
08:02:19 <markus_z> let's start with a short info round
08:02:22 <markus_z> #topic info round
08:02:37 <markus_z> #info 631 open bug reports overall
08:02:56 <markus_z> #info we had one critical: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1603979
08:02:56 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1603979 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate: context tests failed because missing parameter "is_admin_project" (oslo.context 2.6.0)" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Tang Chen (tangchen)
08:03:01 <markus_z> ^that one broke the gate
08:03:20 <markus_z> If anyone encounters such issue, make some noise in #openstack-nova
08:04:13 <markus_z> #info still discussing the bug review pipeline proposal: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099096.html
08:04:31 <andrearosa> when do you want to take a decision on ^^
08:04:44 <markus_z> ^ needs feedback from cores and subject matter experts if we want to adopt this. Otherwise it's tooling nobody uses.
08:04:56 <markus_z> I'll wait until after the midcycle
08:05:00 <andrearosa> ok
08:05:15 <andrearosa> is it on the mid-cycle's agenda?
08:05:52 <markus_z> no, unfortunately I'm not there to drive it and I have not enough backing right now
08:06:32 <andrearosa> maybe it's worth to put it on the midcycle and see if they have time to discuss it or do you prefer to be present during the discussion?
08:06:41 <markus_z> #info I'm thinking of a bug triage day in August. One day to clean things up on a larger scale.
08:06:49 <markus_z> andrearosa: yep, I think you're right.
08:07:05 <markus_z> #action markus_z put the "review pipeline proposal" onto the midcycle etherpad
08:07:11 <andrearosa> a kind of reminder for cores, if they have time they can discuss it
08:07:33 <andrearosa> good
08:07:41 <markus_z> yeah, if there's no time for that, than it could be not important enough to solve.
08:07:50 <andrearosa> agree
08:08:29 <markus_z> regarding the "bug triage day", I'm going to discuss that on the ML
08:08:39 <markus_z> #topic last weeks action items
08:08:57 <markus_z> I could clean up some of the stale bug reports.
08:09:27 <markus_z> johnthetubaguy et al did the bug triage, which is awesome, as he knows a lot about Nova.
08:10:06 <andrearosa> yes I saw that matt asked for that and it is super useful to get sometimes some core doing the triage
08:10:12 <markus_z> On my personal todo list is to read which decisions he made on those bug reports. Should be a good learning.
08:10:58 <markus_z> True. In my head is the crazy idea that, if one core every other week does the job, a core only has to do it once during a cycle.
08:11:29 <andrearosa> it's not that crazy then, have you tried to propose it?
08:11:46 <andrearosa> giving the evidence that the commitment is one week per cycle can convince ppl
08:11:53 <markus_z> no, not yet. I wanted to wait after FF + midcycle.
08:12:50 <markus_z> I haven't yet decided when I want to start that discussion exactly.
08:13:08 <andrearosa> I understand that you want to not conflict with deadlines
08:13:15 <andrearosa> but Nova is full of deadlines :(
08:13:28 <andrearosa> probably they can't commit at the end of the cycle byut for the rest
08:13:39 <andrearosa> of it, it seems reasonable
08:14:21 <markus_z> I'm hesitant because they already have a lot on their plate and I don't know which tasks they could drop/hand over instead.
08:14:38 <andrearosa> that's fine, have a chat with Matt
08:14:42 <andrearosa> and see what he thinks
08:15:29 <markus_z> yeah, I'll do that.
08:16:22 <markus_z> auggy is at the midcycle and will check if there is a slot where folks can skim through the bug reports.
08:16:46 <markus_z> There is a lot of expertise in one room, would be a cool thing, but other items could be more important.
08:17:17 <markus_z> #topic new action items
08:18:15 <markus_z> andrearosa: any chance you can spent a little time this week on new bug reports?
08:18:36 <andrearosa> you mean, bug triaging?
08:18:40 <markus_z> yes
08:19:01 <andrearosa> definitely not today but I can try to allocate few hours.
08:19:10 <andrearosa> I am sorry that my presence is not regular
08:19:23 <andrearosa> but I struggle to find the time for it
08:19:27 <markus_z> no worries, every hour counts
08:19:31 <andrearosa> :)
08:19:46 <markus_z> yeah, me too. I sometimes easy my early morning or last hour of the day.
08:19:52 <markus_z> s/easy/use
08:19:56 <markus_z> weird typo...
08:20:11 * andrearosa is the king of typos
08:20:22 <andrearosa> ok so I'll try to do some triage this week
08:21:02 <markus_z> awesome, thanks. I'll spent some hours too.
08:21:36 <markus_z> anyone else lurking in the back and want a little work? :)
08:22:17 <markus_z> #action markus_z reevaluate:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1584911 <= could be cone
08:22:17 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1584911 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Could not find resource cirros at launch instance" [Undecided,Incomplete]
08:22:28 <markus_z> #topic open round
08:22:50 <markus_z> anyone anything?
08:23:24 <markus_z> #info new contributors who want to learn bug triage, ping me "markus_z" in #openstack-nova or with a private message
08:24:07 <andrearosa> thanks markus_z for your commitment
08:24:35 <markus_z> andrearosa: thanks for helping Nova on that front!
08:24:39 <markus_z> closing in 3....
08:25:13 <markus_z> thanks for your time and effort! Next meeting see here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova/BugsTeam#Next_meeting_dates
08:25:16 <markus_z> #endmeeting