18:00:36 <markus_z> #startmeeting nova-bugs-team
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18:00:43 <mriedem> o/
18:00:53 <sarafraj> o/
18:01:04 <claudiub> o/
18:01:25 <markus_z> cool, we're getting more :)
18:01:56 <markus_z> So, honestly, I don't have a hard agenda here. I mainly use http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html to figure out what needs work.
18:02:22 <markus_z> sarafraj: You're new here I guess, any questions on the bug process itself?
18:02:43 <sarafraj> I did go through wiki regarding this. Ok for now.
18:03:31 <markus_z> auggy is busy this week with API work, anyone open for a week of bug skimming? I can help there if needed.
18:04:11 <mriedem> ha https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1201266
18:04:12 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1201266 in Cinder "'is_public' filter should be handled when nova calls glance via V2" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht)
18:04:23 <mriedem> 995 days old
18:04:45 <markus_z> Ah, and a change some days ago
18:04:49 <mriedem> for cinder
18:05:04 <markus_z> right
18:05:13 <mriedem> so with something like that, we have a glance v2 blueprint, we should just add the bug to the blueprint in LP and invalidate it for nova
18:05:18 <mriedem> i can do that quick
18:05:40 <markus_z> That would be great, thank you
18:06:42 <sarafraj> markus_z: I can help where ever you need, but I am pretty new to Nova so might need to pair up or tag along with someone for assistance.
18:07:06 <markus_z> sarafraj: yep, we can do that.
18:07:25 <markus_z> sarafraj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW
18:07:44 <markus_z> That's the query for new bugs which aren't yet have a proper tag. It's good to start with that.
18:08:17 <markus_z> sarafraj: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags
18:08:32 <sarafraj> markus_z: So this should be done as bugs get filed, like once a day or something.
18:08:43 <mriedem> markus_z: so, do the tag owners do any triage?
18:08:51 <markus_z> sarafraj: yep, once every morning is fine
18:09:01 <sarafraj> markus_z: ok
18:09:02 <markus_z> mriedem: I don't see that happen a lot.
18:09:12 <markus_z> mriedem: api and scheduler is working, the rest, meh
18:09:27 <markus_z> mriedem: live-migration with PaulMurray works too
18:09:53 <markus_z> mriedem: I asked on the ML for more bug tag onwners once, but that didn't find any response.
18:10:21 <mriedem> yeah...
18:10:26 <markus_z> sarafraj: I'm in the UTC+1 timezone (just in case you wonder when I'm not responding)
18:10:38 <mriedem> tagging is good to categorize things but if people aren't looking at them it's not very helpful
18:10:41 <markus_z> mriedem: I'll ask again on the ML, maybe you can throw your PTL weight in
18:10:51 <mriedem> well, i can't really force people to triage bugs
18:11:04 <mriedem> just like i can't force people to rview code
18:11:29 <markus_z> agreed. I don't see how I can give incentives here to do it.
18:11:39 <mriedem> it does seem like we could spend a day cleaning up a bunch of the garbage though
18:11:48 <mriedem> like, we do bug squashing days, but those are for reviewing bug fixes
18:12:03 <mriedem> maybe we need a bug triaging / cleanup day
18:12:21 <sarafraj> markus_z: I have a team of 3-4 people for now and growing. I can ask them to start joining. We are dedicated to Nova
18:12:41 <markus_z> mriedem: A cleanup day could be useful. Just to remove the old clutter no one really is looking at.
18:12:44 <mriedem> like looking at the stale and inconsistent tabs in that dashboard
18:13:05 <mriedem> some of the stale stuff might already be fixed, or no longer valid
18:14:24 <markus_z> true, takes a little time to do that. When would be the best slot to do such a cleanup day? Before the summit?
18:14:36 <markus_z> After newton-1?
18:15:06 <mriedem> let me check the release schedule
18:15:43 <mriedem> newton-1 is the end of may, that's too far out
18:16:10 <markus_z> I guess the most folks wanna get their specs merged until newton-1 and don't want to spent time on cleaning up bug reports.
18:16:11 <mriedem> i was thinking like the week before the summit
18:16:26 <mriedem> well we're in spec freeze right now for new things
18:16:50 <mriedem> and we'll probably lift that a bit after the summit, which will add another level of distraction
18:17:08 <mriedem> i generally don't expect a lot of code landing the week before the summit b/c people are prepping and traveling
18:17:23 <mriedem> so that might be a good time to do it
18:17:58 <mriedem> it needs to be focused though, so what would we want to target from that dashboard?
18:18:00 <markus_z> mriedem: So, maybe April 18th (MO)?
18:18:10 <mriedem> i'd think mostly cleaning up the stale / inconsistent tabs
18:18:36 <markus_z> yeah, makes the most sense
18:18:37 <mriedem> yeah 4/18 probably works
18:18:57 <mriedem> tuesdays and wednesdays are bad b/c of lots of community meetings
18:19:03 <mriedem> i'll send something to the dev list
18:19:57 <markus_z> OK, cool. Let's focus on that.
18:20:11 <sarafraj> mriedem: Can you please share a link to subscribe to dev list?
18:20:24 <markus_z> sarafraj: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists
18:20:34 <sarafraj> markus_z: thx
18:20:50 <markus_z> openstack-dev is the important one
18:21:55 <markus_z> Another item anyone want to talk about?
18:22:02 <mriedem> #action mriedem to propose a launchpad bug backlog cleanup day for 4/18
18:22:45 <mriedem> i don't have anything else
18:22:58 <markus_z> OK, let's close for today. Thanks for your participation!
18:23:07 <markus_z> #endmeeting