21:00:14 <melwitt> #startmeeting nova
21:00:14 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Mar 14 21:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:17 <mriedem> .
21:00:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:00:24 <melwitt> hello all
21:00:26 <takashin> o/
21:00:27 <melwitt> welcome to the nova meeting
21:00:30 <edleafe> \o
21:00:47 <melwitt> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova
21:00:58 <melwitt> let's get started
21:01:00 <melwitt> #topic Release News
21:01:08 <melwitt> #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule
21:01:12 <melwitt> #info Stein RC1 is March 21
21:01:21 <melwitt> rc1 is one week from today
21:01:28 <melwitt> #link Stein RC potential changes tracking: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-rc-potential
21:01:56 <mriedem> where are we at with ^?
21:01:59 <mriedem> what else needs to be done?
21:02:12 <melwitt> I was going to ask you that
21:02:17 <melwitt> there's a lot on there and most look done
21:02:38 <melwitt> docs things
21:03:04 <mriedem> i'll defer to the ptl for tracking what needs to be done for rc1
21:03:17 <melwitt> yeah, docs for minimum bandwidth stuff
21:03:25 <melwitt> and cycle highlights docs
21:03:44 <melwitt> everything else on the pad is done
21:04:01 <mriedem> i'm not sure abou tthat
21:04:10 <mriedem> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538498/ and the compute driver capabilities as traits stuff isn't documented
21:04:35 <mriedem> is someone working on the prelude writeup for the release notes?
21:04:55 <melwitt> oh. ok, I thought the link was the merged docs patch. sorry
21:05:08 <melwitt> no, I'll be doing that
21:05:47 <mriedem> i'm assuming aspiers isn't around
21:05:57 <mriedem> efried: do you know if aspiers was going to document the capabilities as traits stuff?
21:06:33 <efried> I don't know, sorry.
21:06:36 <mriedem> anyway i guess he'll get the ping
21:06:43 <mriedem> i remember talking with him about it
21:06:48 <melwitt> I'll try to catch him tomorrow
21:07:41 <melwitt> ok, anything else for release news before we move on?
21:07:57 <melwitt> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
21:08:10 <melwitt> no critical bugs
21:08:15 <melwitt> #link 74 new untriaged bugs (up 7 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
21:08:21 <melwitt> #link 13 untagged untriaged bugs (up 6 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW
21:09:14 <melwitt> need help with some bug triage, as usual. I'll go through today and tomorrow to see if anything is rc1 potential
21:09:15 <melwitt> #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags
21:09:16 <melwitt> #help need help with bug triage
21:09:24 <melwitt> Gate status
21:09:35 <melwitt> this is old,
21:09:36 <melwitt> #help nova-live-migration ceph setup not working on bionic: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819944
21:09:37 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1819944 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-grenade-live-migration job failing on ubuntu bionic due to missing ceph package" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Harbott (j-harbott)
21:09:45 <melwitt> there's a fix approved for this
21:09:48 <mriedem> but,
21:09:52 <mriedem> the change below it is not
21:10:11 <mriedem> now it is
21:10:34 <melwitt> I approved it earlier today
21:10:49 <melwitt> #help nova-next tls-proxy / vnc failing on bionic: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819794
21:10:50 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1819794 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-next job fail on Ubuntu Bionic" [Medium,Confirmed]
21:11:15 <melwitt> I've been looking into this but of course would appreciate if anyone takes a look and has any ideas
21:11:43 <melwitt> libvirt/qemu unable to load cert. either a permission issue or something like that
21:12:07 <melwitt> bc the file is copied to the expected path by devstack tls-proxy setup code
21:12:19 <melwitt> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html
21:12:29 <dansmith> is this the recursive error thing?
21:12:40 <mriedem> no
21:12:41 <dansmith> oh I guess, not, vnc
21:12:42 <dansmith> sorry
21:13:31 <melwitt> gate status, as you've probably seen on the ML, been wrangling with getting our jobs to work on bionic CI nodes, since they're changing the default from xenial to bionic
21:13:38 <melwitt> I think we're all good there now
21:14:11 <melwitt> 3rd party CI
21:14:11 <mriedem> sort of,
21:14:29 <mriedem> the ceph job is broken on stable, gmann_afk has a patch, and the job is nv so it's low priority
21:14:43 <mriedem> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/643402/
21:14:51 <melwitt> oh, ok. I didn't know about that one
21:15:22 <melwitt> ok, cool
21:15:58 <melwitt> I'll ping eharney tomorrow for that one
21:16:06 <melwitt> #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days
21:16:33 <melwitt> anything else for bugs or gate status before move on?
21:16:58 <melwitt> #topic Reminders
21:17:03 <melwitt> (mriedem): Proposed Train community-wide goals need wider review: project deletion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639010/ and migrate legacy CLIs to OSC https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639376/
21:17:12 <melwitt> you want to talk on that mriedem?
21:17:42 <mriedem> not really, just advertising, but if people aren't involved in the goal selection / review process we'll end up getting whatever the tc decides
21:19:13 <melwitt> yeah. take a look and review the community goals, if you're interested ^
21:19:26 <melwitt> I'll look at them...soon
21:20:03 <melwitt> ok, any other reminders before we move on?
21:20:27 <efried> vote!
21:21:25 <efried> (that is all. carry on.)
21:22:14 <dansmith> ...
21:22:23 <melwitt> yes, ptl election is going on now, so voting is open if you're interested
21:22:42 <melwitt> #topic Stable branch status
21:22:53 <melwitt> #info ocata/pike/queens changes are blocked on tempest-slow failures until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/643052/
21:23:13 <melwitt> ok, that's good to know
21:23:37 <melwitt> I'll see if I can get another tempest core
21:23:59 <melwitt> #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z
21:24:19 <melwitt> looks like one of those needs a recheck
21:24:45 <melwitt> #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z
21:24:58 <melwitt> #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z
21:25:12 <melwitt> we're trying to flush through stable reviews so we can do some releases
21:25:27 <melwitt> stable review help appreciated. I'm trying to go through the rest of them
21:25:46 <melwitt> #help stable reviews
21:25:50 <melwitt> #link Pike extended maintenance is coming: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003745.html
21:26:28 <melwitt> ok, so the next pike release will be the last
21:27:05 <melwitt> anything else for stable branches before we move on?
21:27:23 <melwitt> #topic Subteam Highlights
21:27:30 <melwitt> efried: scheduler?
21:27:34 <efried> #link n-sch minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2019/nova_scheduler.2019-03-11-14.00.html
21:27:34 <efried> It was a quiet one.
21:27:34 <efried> #link DRY/clean up placement objects phase 2 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cd/de-list-phase2+(status:open+OR+status:merged)
21:27:34 <efried> ^ is going nicely
21:27:34 <efried> #link negative aggregate membership https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/negative-aggregate-membership
21:27:34 <efried> agreed to hold ^ until Train
21:27:34 * mriedem has to leave
21:27:34 <efried> END
21:27:49 <melwitt> cool, thanks
21:27:57 <melwitt> no notes from gmann_afk for API subteam
21:28:06 <melwitt> moving on
21:28:08 <melwitt> #topic Stuck Reviews
21:28:16 <melwitt> nothing on the agenda. assuming no stuck reviews
21:28:23 <melwitt> #topic Open discussion
21:28:32 <dansmith> I have a thing
21:28:37 <melwitt> nothing on the agenda. does anyone have anything for op
21:28:42 <melwitt> ok, go ahead
21:28:48 <dansmith> earlier today, danpb noted he had some serious concerns about the SEV work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641994/
21:28:59 <dansmith> much of the same that I expressed to adam when we were discussing in denver,
21:29:07 <dansmith> but danpb actually has the background to back it up :)
21:29:37 <melwitt> ok, yeah I saw a review from him come in on my notifications
21:29:38 <dansmith> anyway, that review from him (which accidentally cached a bad name) was toned down from his less filtered original wording about it
21:29:40 <dansmith> but..
21:30:01 <dansmith> I think we probably want to encourage some re-design on that and not just shoot for rubber-stamp approval
21:30:09 <dansmith> it was also noted in a conversation,
21:30:31 <dansmith> that intel has a similar thing coming soon which is substantially different from this implementation, which makes it even more problematic
21:31:04 <dansmith> I don't really want to put my -2 on there because I know adam will come after me with incessant politeness, but.. we probably just want to make sure that doesn't land until we can discuss in denver or something
21:31:25 <dansmith> kashyap wasn't at the last denver when this was discussed, but will be at the next, and can probably proxy the concerns into a discussion
21:31:49 <melwitt> ok, that's good to know
21:32:45 <dansmith> (that is all)
21:32:46 <efried> dansmith: what's the intel thing?
21:32:53 <dansmith> efried: meaning what's it called?
21:32:56 <efried> I can try to chase that down
21:33:03 <efried> um, or where did you hear about it, or whatever
21:33:16 <dansmith> oh I heard about it from danpb himself
21:33:33 <dansmith> kashyap will have references if you want to catchyup him in the morning
21:33:40 <efried> that was cute
21:33:41 <efried> okay.
21:33:43 <dansmith> (seewhatIdidthere?
21:34:51 <melwitt> ok, I'll look through the spec and comment
21:34:56 <melwitt> thanks
21:35:07 <melwitt> anything else for open discussion before we wrap up?
21:35:30 <melwitt> ok, thanks everyone
21:35:34 <melwitt> #endmeeting