14:00:22 <mriedem> #startmeeting nova
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14:00:25 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
14:00:49 <edleafe> \o
14:01:03 <efried> /
14:01:06 <dansmith> o/
14:01:08 <takashin> o/
14:01:27 <johnthetubaguy> o/
14:01:59 <sfinucan> o/
14:02:02 <cdent> o/
14:02:06 <bauzas> \o
14:02:34 <mriedem> well i suppose we should get started
14:02:35 <mriedem> #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting
14:02:46 <mriedem> #topic release news
14:02:52 <mriedem> #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule
14:03:01 <mriedem> #info Next upcoming milestone: Jun 8: p-2 milestone
14:03:16 <mriedem> so basically 3-4 weeks until p-2,
14:03:26 <mriedem> since we'll probably consider next week a wash for any work
14:03:50 <mriedem> #info Blueprints: 71 targeted, 66 approved, 9 completed, 7 not started
14:04:00 <mriedem> #link pike-1 recap and pike-2 focus: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115700.html
14:04:07 <mriedem> #help There are still some approved blueprints looking for owners: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115899.html
14:04:17 <mriedem> i identified 3 orphan blueprints this morning
14:04:22 <mriedem> 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-service-tokens-pike
14:04:28 <mriedem> 2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-force-after-timeout
14:04:33 <mriedem> 3. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-per-instance-timeout
14:04:47 <mriedem> 2 of those have code already started
14:04:58 <mriedem> they all have specs i think
14:05:06 <mriedem> so if you're interested in owning one please let me know
14:05:14 <johnthetubaguy> yeah, the specs have most of the context for those
14:05:26 <efried> Service tokens, if you don't get a better offer.
14:05:28 <jaypipes> o/
14:05:37 <sfinucan> mriedem: to play devils advocate
14:05:43 <mriedem> efried: i'm just going ot assign that one to you
14:05:47 <sfinucan> should we really be encouraging people to take up those specs?
14:05:50 * alex_xu_ waves late
14:06:01 <sfinucan> given the drop in reviewer resources that OSIC going away has also incurred?
14:06:15 <mriedem> sfinucan: drop in reviewer resources...
14:06:31 <mriedem> sfinucan: john is the only core from osic right?
14:06:32 <mriedem> http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/nova/30
14:06:35 <mriedem> and #4 in reviews
14:06:51 <cdent> it's not just about core reviewer bandwidth, it's everybody reviewer bandwidth
14:06:53 <sfinucan> core, yes, but it can't be just cores reviewing :)
14:06:58 <sfinucan> Yes, that ^
14:07:35 <sfinucan> There are a lot of specs. We might be better accepting that some of those OSIC specs aren't going to get done now and focus on what will
14:07:48 <mriedem> sure,
14:07:48 <mriedem> so maybe you guys understand now why i have to tell people we have a spec freeze after which point we don't accept more things
14:07:53 <mriedem> these were accepted before the spec freeze, and i'm told from time to time we have new contributors looking for work
14:08:09 <sfinucan> Like efried above. Gotcha
14:08:26 <johnthetubaguy> so the use-service-tokens one is a big deal
14:08:28 <mriedem> if by p-2 there are blueprints that aren't started, then i'm probably going to drop them
14:08:49 <johnthetubaguy> the live-migration ones are things operators would like, now progress monitoring has been proven not to work
14:09:05 <johnthetubaguy> they have some utility, generally
14:09:34 <johnthetubaguy> efried: the service token one was stuck behind a py3 related glanceclient bug
14:09:41 <mriedem> right, so, right now those bps aren't taking up any reviewer time
14:09:54 <efried> johnthetubaguy Was or is?
14:09:59 <mriedem> so if someone is looking to contribute and wants to dust them off and run with them, they can
14:10:05 <mriedem> if no one does, then they get deferred
14:10:12 <mriedem> meanwhile,
14:10:18 <mriedem> we have lot of other work that needs to be done and has owners,
14:10:21 <johnthetubaguy> efried: unsure, there was a patch proposed, not sure if its merged and released yet, given the big hit glance took, I guess thats a no
14:10:22 <mriedem> so those get priority obviously
14:10:30 <johnthetubaguy> mriedem: +1
14:10:46 <mriedem> btw,
14:10:57 <mriedem> maybe this should be a kick in the ass to the core team to bump up the review count
14:11:26 <mriedem> but let's move on
14:11:39 <mriedem> #topic bugs
14:11:40 <jaypipes> mriedem: trying my best, man :(
14:12:03 <mriedem> jaypipes: i know - i'm not singling people out
14:12:15 <mriedem> 0 critical bugs reported
14:12:17 <dansmith> he's talking about me anyway :)
14:12:24 <mriedem> #help Need help with bug triage; there are 85 new untriaged bugs as of today (May 4)
14:12:38 <mriedem> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html
14:12:44 <mriedem> so as some are aware,
14:12:53 <mriedem> the cells v1 job was failing at about a 50% rate up until yesterday
14:12:58 <mriedem> well, between 5/1 and yesterday
14:13:03 <mriedem> because of the systemd journal logging stuff,
14:13:11 <mriedem> that was disabled yesterday, so that job is passing again at a normal rate
14:13:25 <mriedem> http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1580728
14:13:39 <johnthetubaguy> the job or the logging?
14:13:43 <mriedem> the job
14:13:46 <mriedem> the logging was disabled
14:13:56 <johnthetubaguy> OK
14:14:06 <mriedem> johnthetubaguy: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/b2bfe5617ac43a678a9113d5c955f5456c151319 was the "fix"
14:14:11 <mriedem> temp workaround really
14:14:32 <mriedem> melwitt has a related fix up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461912
14:14:32 <patchbot> patch 461912 - nova - Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object
14:14:56 <mriedem> 3rd party ci status,
14:15:02 <mriedem> i don't really have anything here
14:15:16 <mriedem> any questions/comments about bugs?
14:15:33 <mriedem> #topic reminders
14:15:42 <mriedem> #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking
14:15:54 <mriedem> keep ^ up to date for the latest changes that are ready for review
14:16:07 <mriedem> i need to update that for cells v2 most likely
14:16:17 <mriedem> #link Forum planning: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017
14:16:22 <mriedem> #info Start creating etherpads for your sessions. There is an optional template: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115972.html
14:16:45 <mriedem> i plan on working on etherpads for the sessions i own today
14:17:03 <mriedem> the template with all of the hash tags and everything overwhelmed me though
14:17:11 <mriedem> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming Forum discussion planning for nova (add your name if you are going)
14:17:19 <mriedem> #info Forum sessions: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=forum
14:17:29 <mriedem> any questions about the forum?
14:17:40 <mriedem> #topic stable branch status
14:17:47 <mriedem> stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z
14:17:53 <mriedem> #info release requests are up for ocata nova 15.0.4 and novaclient 7.1.1
14:18:06 <mriedem> stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z
14:18:12 <mriedem> #info release requests are up for newton nova 14.0.6 and novaclient 6.0.1
14:18:21 <bauzas> cool
14:18:26 <mriedem> with the stable ptl looking for work, any releases for the stable branch are sitting
14:18:42 <bauzas> I'll review the above ^
14:18:54 <mriedem> so if the red hat gang cares about stable releases, kindly bug apevec
14:19:08 <bauzas> :p
14:19:13 <mriedem> #topic subteam highlights
14:19:20 <mriedem> dansmith: cells v2
14:19:27 <dansmith> we had a meeting,
14:19:31 <dansmith> talked about the journald bug,
14:19:41 <dansmith> my aggregate fix thing,
14:19:46 <dansmith> and about ovo for too long
14:20:10 <dansmith> and we hawk'd melwitt's quotas patch for the attendees
14:20:19 <dansmith> which were, uh, me and melwitt and mriedem
14:20:21 <mriedem> heh, which was the 3 of us
14:20:22 <mriedem> :)
14:20:24 <dansmith> oh, we had a wild laski sighting
14:20:28 <mriedem> oh yeah
14:20:29 <dansmith> that was cool
14:20:44 <dansmith> almost hit him with my truck
14:20:45 <dansmith> anyway, that's it I think
14:20:52 * jaypipes still trying to get through melwitt's quotas series.
14:20:53 <mriedem> edleafe: scheduler
14:20:56 <edleafe> Discussed the proposed placement-manage patch to sync os-traits with the placement DB (https://review.openstack.org/450125). Agreed to discuss further on the review.
14:20:57 <patchbot> patch 450125 - nova - Add sync traits command for placement
14:20:58 <jaypipes> slow sloggin on that one :(
14:20:59 <edleafe> Didn't get into the claims WIP reviews, as bauzas was not present.
14:21:01 <edleafe> jaypipes asked some of us to review his slides for his talk in Boston. For some reason we agreed without payment of large sums of cash.
14:21:04 <edleafe> That's all, folks!
14:21:26 <bauzas> edleafe: yeah, was on holiday :(
14:21:27 <jaypipes> edleafe: I can pay in beer.
14:21:36 <mriedem> tdurakov: around for live migration?
14:21:44 <jaypipes> or a Shirley Temple for dansmith.
14:21:53 <mriedem> alex_xu_: around for api meeting highlights?
14:22:01 <jaypipes> mriedem: some sad news...
14:22:08 <mriedem> timofey is gone
14:22:10 <alex_xu_> just go through each work item. the last patch for nova api via wsgi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457715/
14:22:10 <patchbot> patch 457715 - openstack-dev/devstack - Use uwsgi for nova when NOVA_USE_MOD_WSGI is not F...
14:22:15 <jaypipes> mriedem: tdurakov and snikitin will no longer be working on Nova.
14:22:26 <mriedem> jaypipes: ok, not unexpected news, but ok
14:22:33 <jaypipes> both have decided to pursue adventures outside of OPenStack.
14:22:59 <mriedem> alex_xu_: thanks
14:23:01 <alex_xu_> api team takes over the rest of policy doc works, and good progress. that's all
14:23:02 <jaypipes> so we're going to need a new live migration lead.
14:23:11 <jaypipes> I nominate moshele.
14:23:38 <mriedem> well,
14:23:44 <mriedem> we don't have to have subteams for things that aren't very active anymore,
14:23:54 <mriedem> the live migration subteam started b/c of HPE pushing so much change
14:24:11 <mriedem> so maybe we just sideline that for now unless someone wants to pick it up again
14:24:23 <mriedem> as noted earlier, we have lots of stuff to work on
14:24:24 <jaypipes> mriedem: well, there continues to be *some* innovation in upstream QEMU/libvirt around live migration, so probably good to keep up with it.
14:24:52 <sfinucan> Ditto for sr-iov. Haven't had a meeting there for a few months
14:25:06 <mriedem> #help looking for new live migration lead / contact person
14:25:15 <mriedem> ok moving on
14:25:23 <mriedem> gibi posted some updates for versioned notifications
14:25:34 <mriedem> his two focus areas are:
14:25:38 <mriedem> 1. volume attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401992/ - which is in the gate
14:25:38 <patchbot> patch 401992 - nova - Transform instance.volume_attach notification (MERGED)
14:25:44 <mriedem> or merged
14:25:49 <mriedem> and
14:25:49 <mriedem> 2. additional fields for Searchlight https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight
14:26:04 <mriedem> ^ continues to be something we said we'd get done in p-1 so we should try to do that
14:26:07 <mriedem> there isn't too much left
14:26:13 <jaypipes> k, will do those today.
14:26:28 <mriedem> they all need to be rebased now though b/c of the volume attach/detach notifications going in
14:26:36 <mriedem> i'll help rebase them after the meeting
14:26:48 <mriedem> efried: powervm?
14:26:50 <efried> Three ready for final reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver+is:mergeable
14:26:53 <efried> Once one or two more of those go through, we can start in on the others in the series again.
14:26:57 <efried> That said...
14:27:09 <efried> We know the PowerVM driver work is going to spill past Pike
14:27:24 <efried> So thinking it would be worth setting a goal for the scope of stuff we want to get into Pike.
14:27:45 <efried> Reasonable to say it should include the above three at least.
14:27:46 <mriedem> like get those 3 done and that's it for pike?
14:27:52 <efried> "at least"
14:27:55 <mriedem> psh
14:28:04 <efried> Thoughts on factors affecting adding more to the pile?
14:28:15 <mriedem> i like having you working on these other bp's that affect nova as a whole
14:28:45 <efried> Noted; but I oughtta have room for both.
14:28:59 <mriedem> sure, but we don't necessarily have review bandwidth
14:28:59 <efried> Anyway, for now, I'm happy saying those three, and any others are a bonus.
14:29:03 <efried> Yeah, I get it.
14:29:05 <mriedem> as noted eaarlier
14:29:05 <mriedem> ok
14:29:11 <efried> That's it for me.
14:29:30 <mriedem> cinder subteam:
14:29:48 <mriedem> the current focus is still on plumbing in the new cinder v3 api for detach scenarios
14:29:53 <mriedem> there is a series starting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456896/
14:29:54 <patchbot> patch 456896 - nova - Add Cinder v3 detach call to _terminate_volume_con...
14:30:08 <mriedem> the first three there are pretty easy
14:30:15 <mriedem> #help Will need a 3rd core to help move changes along.
14:30:28 <johnthetubaguy> I guess the spec gives a good context on the new API?
14:30:31 <mriedem> as johnthetubaguy and i are contributing to this series, we'll need a 3rd core
14:30:57 <mriedem> so i'll just harass people as time goes on
14:31:09 <mriedem> #topic stuck reviews
14:31:16 <mriedem> there was nothing on the agenda
14:31:27 <mriedem> anyone want to mention a review that's stuck?
14:31:34 <jaypipes> mriedem: I won't have bandwidth to review the cinderv3 detach stuff, unfortunately.
14:31:56 <jaypipes> mriedem: not stuck, but this series would be great to make forward progress on:
14:32:01 <mriedem> jaypipes: again, i'm just fishing
14:32:06 <jaypipes> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/shared-resources-pike
14:32:26 <mriedem> #topic open discussion
14:32:31 <mriedem> nothing on the agenda
14:32:38 <mriedem> does anyone have anything they wanted to talk about?
14:32:46 <edleafe> no meeting next week, right?
14:32:51 <mriedem> ah yes thanks
14:32:58 <mriedem> #info no team meeting next week due to the summit
14:33:09 <efried> Following week this same time, then?
14:33:10 <sam____> Hi
14:33:14 <mriedem> efried: yes
14:33:16 <efried> So, like, skipping rather than moving
14:33:24 <sam____> Can I request to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443951/
14:33:25 <patchbot> patch 443951 - nova - Libvirt volume driver for Veritas HyperScale
14:33:37 <mriedem> sam____: yes i'll review that today
14:33:52 <johnthetubaguy> so at the summit, is there a Nova hang out area?
14:33:52 <sam____> Thanks
14:33:55 <mriedem> sam____: did the os-brick release get into global-reqiurements as a new minimum?
14:34:11 <sam____> yes its merged
14:34:14 <mriedem> sam____: yup https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L150
14:34:14 <mriedem> ok
14:34:21 <mriedem> johnthetubaguy: nova hangout area...
14:34:22 <johnthetubaguy> I am kinda used to us all getting suck in the same room together, gonna be different with the forum
14:34:51 <sam____> Thanks mriedem :)
14:34:56 <johnthetubaguy> anyways, I guess we will all bump into each other at some point
14:35:05 <mriedem> johnthetubaguy: i don't think there is,
14:35:11 <mriedem> there are available 'hacking' rooms if needed
14:35:18 <mriedem> but my dance card is full, i don't know about others
14:35:49 <mriedem> looks like there are spill over rooms on thursday afternoon too if needed
14:35:49 <johnthetubaguy> yeah, I look like I have something in every forum slot... and thats just out of curiosity I guess
14:35:49 <mriedem> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Boston2017#Thursday_Afternoon_session_sign-up
14:36:17 <mriedem> ok anything else?
14:36:27 <johnthetubaguy> sounds like we are done
14:36:52 <efried> Anyone know of a mobile IRC app that doesn't suck?
14:36:59 <bauzas> AndChat
14:37:07 <dansmith> he said "doesn't suck"
14:37:11 <mriedem> alright let's take that -nova
14:37:13 <mriedem> thanks everyone
14:37:15 <mriedem> #endmeeting