02:00:48 #startmeeting nimble 02:00:48 Meeting started Thu Dec 8 02:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 02:00:52 The meeting name has been set to 'nimble' 02:00:57 hi all 02:01:11 o/ 02:01:48 liusheng, luyao, RuiChen, shaohe_feng, shihanzhang: are you around? 02:02:00 o/ 02:02:22 seems 10am is still too eary : ) 02:02:32 lei-zh: hah 02:03:01 ok, the agenda: 02:03:14 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nimble#Agenda_for_next_meeting 02:03:23 o/ 02:03:33 RuiChen: o/ 02:03:52 zhenguo: hi 02:04:02 shaohe_feng: o/ 02:04:12 zhenguo: hi 02:04:19 luyao: o/ 02:04:32 hah, seems we are all here 02:04:38 ok, let's jump in 02:04:46 #topic announcements and reminders 02:05:13 I have added the engine manager unit tests, but need to add more, if anyone is interested in that, please take over :P 02:05:58 awesome :) 02:06:11 liusheng: hah 02:06:38 Our tempest check still failed with the instance create tests, but seems we have got the reason, thanks liusheng for working on it 02:07:00 zhenguo: yes, I am still stucked in it 02:07:08 zhenguo: a linke to address this task 02:07:31 I have installed a devstack secucessfully, but it cannot creat a instance also 02:08:00 liusheng, shaohe_feng: seems it's failed in neutron port create task 02:08:09 any details? liusheng 02:08:23 zhenguo: any one interested in it, can take it, and mark it WIP 02:08:29 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404552/ 02:08:31 zhenguo: any log? 02:08:35 but it was not met the error in my devstack 02:09:07 shaohe_feng: yes, you can get the full logs from nimble, ironic and neutron 02:09:17 zhenguo: let me check it. 02:09:21 zhenguo: it was timeout to wait in "building" state 02:09:29 shaohe_feng: thanks for the help 02:09:38 shaohe_feng: thanks 02:09:56 liusheng: maybe we need to add more time for it :P 02:10:07 any error exist in neutron side log ? 02:10:31 RuiChen: I will dig later 02:10:51 thank you zhenguo 02:11:24 we still lack the basic abilities of powering instance in our nimbleclient :P 02:11:50 it's really appreciate if someone can take over it 02:12:08 shihanzhang: are you still working on nimbleclient? 02:13:01 oh, seems he is absent :( 02:13:09 sorry, I work on other things in this week 02:13:51 RuiChen: np, I would like to encourage more nimble guys also work on client things :) 02:14:20 zhenguo: I can take over that after the tempest works :) 02:14:37 liusheng: really appreciate! 02:15:03 thanks liusheng, I can share the client experiencs with you 02:15:05 zhenguo: Maybe we realy need a wiki to track our task. 02:15:18 RuiChen: thanks:) 02:15:23 zhenguo: such a ethpad 02:15:44 shaohe_feng: yes, but we have launchpad, which seems more general, but etherpad is a good place 02:16:10 #link https://github.com/openstack/nimble/blob/master/doc/source/api.rst 02:16:12 zhenguo: any one can mark the task item if he interest in it and take it. 02:16:15 do you remember this file? 02:16:27 may we can file more bps :) 02:16:49 shaohe_feng: yes, I also like a checklist to track everyone's work :P 02:17:15 liusheng: yes, and bugs as well 02:17:24 drafting a BP to track features, I think we can start from simple BP describe 02:17:35 zhenguo: yes. task list can also be a track checklist 02:18:01 shaohe_feng: yes, or we can create a new trello dashboard 02:18:08 it's just common place to let others know what we are working 02:18:18 RuiChen: yes 02:18:41 zhenguo: trello is also OK. is it public? 02:19:02 shaohe_feng: sure, 02:19:27 The bp in launchpad is nice, any new pache related to the bp will be automatically recorded in its whiteboard 02:19:37 s/pache/patch 02:19:50 liusheng: good point! 02:20:11 liusheng, RuiChen: yes, we can use launchpad + trello 02:20:24 and specs 02:20:41 zhenguo: maybe and releasenote, hah 02:20:53 I have added gerrit notification for nimble-specs yesterday, and will add the initial patch today 02:21:36 liusheng: hah, yes we have to think about when we should use releasenote 02:22:12 liusheng: do we plan to have a first release in Ocata? 02:22:12 thank you zhenguo, notification is important for reviewing 02:22:28 RuiChen: yes :P 02:22:47 Merged openstack/nimble: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/408106 02:23:21 ok, not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here? 02:23:27 hmmm, I think we need a new project name then first release, thought? 02:23:45 RuiChen: oh, yes, we need to change our project name 02:23:50 RuiChen: I just want to point that :) 02:24:12 yeah, avoid the confusion, hah 02:24:27 the cinder PTL points out that nimble is a company name, and we have a nimble driver in cinder 02:25:06 any idea about new name? 02:25:45 I talked about the new name with liusheng last week 02:25:46 we might get some suggestion from community? like existed name list? 02:26:20 I'm not sure, but we can try to contract with community 02:26:25 RuiChen: seems like they don't have a list for that 02:26:56 we need to refer to our lawyer for the new name 02:27:25 We are good at giving Chinese Name: -P 02:27:30 that's shame, still exist big risk to get existed again 02:28:08 maybe it's ok if not conflict with big companies or product 02:28:13 shaohe_feng: agree 02:28:37 like we also have a phone named nova, lol 02:29:25 :-) 02:29:33 chinese name is a good option 02:29:52 or maybe some metals name like chrome :P 02:30:38 or some star name like supernova, lol 02:31:05 +1 for supernova :-) 02:31:26 RuiChen: lol 02:32:17 ok, we can discuss the new name later, 02:32:22 what's next 02:32:39 #topic open discussion 02:32:54 seriously, we have any alternative? 02:33:15 zhenguo: Intel has a project named nova 02:33:21 named supernova 02:33:31 lol 02:33:47 Ruichen: not yet 02:33:51 shaohe_feng: hah 02:34:02 an opensource project, it means better than nova 02:34:48 shaohe_feng: that's a good name 02:35:24 how about using some metals name in the star? 02:35:45 zhenguo: many words have been used :( 02:36:24 liusheng: yes, maybe using some rare work is a good option 02:36:33 s/work/word 02:37:22 zhenguo: prefix with metal? 02:37:36 zhenguo: metal_nova? 02:38:16 shaohe_feng: no, metals name like chrome, gold, silver, or something else 02:38:43 I found this reference http://governance.openstack.org/reference/service-project-naming.html 02:39:53 zhenguo: good idea, wide choose scope of metals name 02:40:46 RuiChen: thanks for the link, it also have a legal issues FAQ there 02:41:46 osmium caesium 02:42:05 they are used as a software name, it is OK ? 02:43:08 liusheng: does it used in pypi or launchpad? 02:43:34 or change the caesium to caese like chromium to chrome 02:43:51 https://pypi.python.org/pypi/osmium/2.10.2 02:44:16 zhenguo: lol 02:44:52 zhenguo: the caesium is the opposite of chrom 02:44:59 zhenguo: the caesium is the opposite of chromium 02:45:10 liusheng: the base requirement is not conflict on pypi and launchpad 02:45:47 https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Caesium/0.3.1 02:46:21 they are both occupied :( 02:47:04 zhenguo: I mean may we can change it to caese, but it seems not a english word 02:48:28 liusheng: I think it's ok to create a new word, but which can be pronounced by english speakers 02:49:05 chinese pinyin like luoji, lol 02:49:39 seance prounce like caese 02:51:53 ok, I think everyone can provide two options for the new name before next meeting and we can make a decision then, wdyt? 02:52:16 coaster？ 02:52:33 zhenguo: OK 02:52:40 +1 02:53:24 shaohe_feng: coaster is also a company name, you can google it 02:54:11 https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/元素周期表 02:54:14 hah 02:54:32 zhenguo: oh, hard for name 02:54:58 RuiChen: hah 02:55:14 shaohe_feng: yes 02:55:25 zhenguo: I have read it, lol 02:56:18 hah, I think Zun is a good example 02:57:14 zhenguo: maybe a planet name or fixed star name 02:57:44 zhenguo: such as venus 02:57:52 zhenguo: what does zun means? 02:58:18 shaohe_feng: yes, but famus start name seems all occupied 02:58:42 china zun is a container for wine, 02:58:54 zhenguo: got it. 02:59:22 Kevin_zheng suggested we can use china ding, hah 02:59:44 zhenguo: hah, just thought it 02:59:55 liusheng: lol 03:00:41 oh time is up 03:00:59 thanks y'all 03:01:07 #endmeeting