02:00:48 <zhenguo> #startmeeting nimble
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02:00:52 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nimble'
02:00:57 <zhenguo> hi all
02:01:11 <lei-zh> o/
02:01:48 <zhenguo> liusheng, luyao, RuiChen, shaohe_feng, shihanzhang: are you around?
02:02:00 <liusheng> o/
02:02:22 <lei-zh> seems 10am is still too eary : )
02:02:32 <zhenguo> lei-zh: hah
02:03:01 <zhenguo> ok, the agenda:
02:03:14 <zhenguo> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nimble#Agenda_for_next_meeting
02:03:23 <RuiChen> o/
02:03:33 <zhenguo> RuiChen: o/
02:03:52 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: hi
02:04:02 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: o/
02:04:12 <luyao> zhenguo: hi
02:04:19 <zhenguo> luyao: o/
02:04:32 <zhenguo> hah, seems we are all here
02:04:38 <zhenguo> ok, let's jump in
02:04:46 <zhenguo> #topic announcements and reminders
02:05:13 <zhenguo> I have added the engine manager unit tests, but need to add more, if anyone is interested in that, please take over :P
02:05:58 <liusheng> awesome :)
02:06:11 <zhenguo> liusheng: hah
02:06:38 <zhenguo> Our tempest check still failed with the instance create tests, but seems we have got the reason, thanks liusheng for working on it
02:07:00 <liusheng> zhenguo: yes, I am still stucked in it
02:07:08 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: a linke  to  address this task
02:07:31 <liusheng> I have installed a devstack secucessfully, but it cannot creat a instance also
02:08:00 <zhenguo> liusheng, shaohe_feng: seems it's failed in neutron port create task
02:08:09 <RuiChen> any details? liusheng
02:08:23 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: any one interested in it, can take it, and mark it WIP
02:08:29 <zhenguo> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404552/
02:08:31 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: any log?
02:08:35 <liusheng> but it was not met the error in my devstack
02:09:07 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: yes, you can get the full logs from nimble, ironic and neutron
02:09:17 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: let me check it.
02:09:21 <liusheng> zhenguo: it was timeout to wait in "building" state
02:09:29 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: thanks for the help
02:09:38 <liusheng> shaohe_feng: thanks
02:09:56 <zhenguo> liusheng: maybe we need to add more time for it :P
02:10:07 <RuiChen> any error exist in neutron side log ?
02:10:31 <zhenguo> RuiChen: I will dig later
02:10:51 <RuiChen> thank you zhenguo
02:11:24 <zhenguo> we still lack the basic abilities of powering instance in our nimbleclient :P
02:11:50 <zhenguo> it's really appreciate if someone can take over it
02:12:08 <zhenguo> shihanzhang: are you still working on nimbleclient?
02:13:01 <zhenguo> oh, seems he is absent :(
02:13:09 <RuiChen> sorry, I work on other things in this week
02:13:51 <zhenguo> RuiChen: np, I would like to encourage  more nimble guys also work on client things :)
02:14:20 <liusheng> zhenguo: I can take over that after the tempest works :)
02:14:37 <zhenguo> liusheng: really appreciate!
02:15:03 <RuiChen> thanks liusheng, I can share the client experiencs with you
02:15:05 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: Maybe we realy need a wiki to track our task.
02:15:18 <liusheng> RuiChen: thanks:)
02:15:23 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: such a ethpad
02:15:44 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: yes, but we have launchpad, which seems more general, but etherpad is a good place
02:16:10 <zhenguo> #link https://github.com/openstack/nimble/blob/master/doc/source/api.rst
02:16:12 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: any one can mark the task item if he interest in it and take it.
02:16:15 <zhenguo> do you remember this file?
02:16:27 <liusheng> may we can file more bps :)
02:16:49 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: yes, I also like a checklist to track everyone's work :P
02:17:15 <zhenguo> liusheng: yes, and bugs as well
02:17:24 <RuiChen> drafting a BP to track features, I think we can start from simple BP describe
02:17:35 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: yes. task list can also be a track checklist
02:18:01 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: yes, or we can create a new trello dashboard
02:18:08 <RuiChen> it's just common place to let others know what we are working
02:18:18 <zhenguo> RuiChen: yes
02:18:41 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: trello is also OK. is it public?
02:19:02 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: sure,
02:19:27 <liusheng> The bp in launchpad is nice, any new pache related to the bp will be automatically recorded in its whiteboard
02:19:37 <liusheng> s/pache/patch
02:19:50 <RuiChen> liusheng: good point!
02:20:11 <zhenguo> liusheng, RuiChen: yes, we can use  launchpad + trello
02:20:24 <zhenguo> and specs
02:20:41 <liusheng> zhenguo: maybe and releasenote, hah
02:20:53 <zhenguo> I have added gerrit notification for nimble-specs yesterday, and will add the initial patch today
02:21:36 <zhenguo> liusheng: hah, yes we have to think about when we should use releasenote
02:22:12 <zhenguo> liusheng: do we plan to have a first release in Ocata?
02:22:12 <RuiChen> thank you zhenguo, notification is important for reviewing
02:22:28 <zhenguo> RuiChen: yes :P
02:22:47 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/nimble: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/408106
02:23:21 <zhenguo> ok, not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here?
02:23:27 <RuiChen> hmmm, I think we need a new project name then first release, thought?
02:23:45 <zhenguo> RuiChen: oh, yes, we need to change our project name
02:23:50 <liusheng> RuiChen: I just want to point that :)
02:24:12 <RuiChen> yeah, avoid the confusion, hah
02:24:27 <zhenguo> the cinder PTL points out that nimble is a company name, and we have a nimble driver in cinder
02:25:06 <RuiChen> any idea about new name?
02:25:45 <zhenguo> I talked about the new name with liusheng last week
02:25:46 <RuiChen> we might get some suggestion from community? like existed name list?
02:26:20 <RuiChen> I'm not sure, but we can try to contract with community
02:26:25 <zhenguo> RuiChen: seems like they don't have a list for that
02:26:56 <zhenguo> we need to refer to our lawyer for the new name
02:27:25 <shaohe_feng> We are good at giving Chinese Name: -P
02:27:30 <RuiChen> that's shame, still exist big risk to get existed again
02:28:08 <zhenguo> maybe it's ok if not conflict with big companies or product
02:28:13 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: agree
02:28:37 <zhenguo> like we also have a phone named nova, lol
02:29:25 <RuiChen> :-)
02:29:33 <zhenguo> chinese name is a good option
02:29:52 <zhenguo> or maybe some metals name like chrome :P
02:30:38 <zhenguo> or some star name like supernova, lol
02:31:05 <RuiChen> +1 for supernova :-)
02:31:26 <zhenguo> RuiChen: lol
02:32:17 <zhenguo> ok, we can discuss the new name later,
02:32:22 <zhenguo> what's next
02:32:39 <zhenguo> #topic open discussion
02:32:54 <RuiChen> seriously, we have any alternative?
02:33:15 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: Intel has a project named nova
02:33:21 <shaohe_feng> named supernova
02:33:31 <liusheng> lol
02:33:47 <zhenguo> Ruichen: not yet
02:33:51 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: hah
02:34:02 <shaohe_feng> an opensource project, it means better than nova
02:34:48 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: that's a good name
02:35:24 <zhenguo> how about using some metals name in the star?
02:35:45 <liusheng> zhenguo: many words have been used :(
02:36:24 <zhenguo> liusheng: yes,  maybe using some rare work is a good option
02:36:33 <zhenguo> s/work/word
02:37:22 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: prefix with metal?
02:37:36 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: metal_nova?
02:38:16 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: no, metals name like chrome, gold, silver, or something else
02:38:43 <RuiChen> I found this reference http://governance.openstack.org/reference/service-project-naming.html
02:39:53 <RuiChen> zhenguo: good idea, wide choose scope of metals name
02:40:46 <zhenguo> RuiChen: thanks for the link, it also have a legal issues FAQ there
02:41:46 <liusheng> osmium  caesium
02:42:05 <liusheng> they are used as a software name, it is OK ?
02:43:08 <zhenguo> liusheng: does it used in pypi or launchpad?
02:43:34 <liusheng> or change the caesium to caese like chromium to chrome
02:43:51 <zhenguo> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/osmium/2.10.2
02:44:16 <liusheng> zhenguo: lol
02:44:52 <liusheng> zhenguo: the caesium is the opposite of chrom
02:44:59 <liusheng> zhenguo: the caesium is the opposite of chromium
02:45:10 <zhenguo> liusheng: the base requirement is not conflict on pypi and launchpad
02:45:47 <zhenguo> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Caesium/0.3.1
02:46:21 <zhenguo> they are both occupied :(
02:47:04 <liusheng> zhenguo: I mean may we can change it to caese, but it seems not a english word
02:48:28 <zhenguo> liusheng: I think it's ok to create a new word, but which can be pronounced by english speakers
02:49:05 <zhenguo> chinese pinyin like luoji, lol
02:49:39 <shaohe_feng> seance prounce like caese
02:51:53 <zhenguo> ok, I think everyone can provide two options for the new name before next meeting and we can make a decision then, wdyt?
02:52:16 <shaohe_feng> coaster？
02:52:33 <liusheng> zhenguo: OK
02:52:40 <RuiChen> +1
02:53:24 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: coaster is also a company name, you can google it
02:54:11 <RuiChen> https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/元素周期表
02:54:14 <RuiChen> hah
02:54:32 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: oh, hard for name
02:54:58 <zhenguo> RuiChen: hah
02:55:14 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: yes
02:55:25 <liusheng> zhenguo: I have read it, lol
02:56:18 <zhenguo> hah, I think Zun is a good example
02:57:14 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: maybe a planet name or fixed star name
02:57:44 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: such as venus
02:57:52 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: what does zun means?
02:58:18 <zhenguo> shaohe_feng: yes, but famus start name seems all occupied
02:58:42 <zhenguo> china zun is a container for wine,
02:58:54 <shaohe_feng> zhenguo: got it.
02:59:22 <zhenguo> Kevin_zheng suggested we can use china ding, hah
02:59:44 <liusheng> zhenguo: hah, just thought it
02:59:55 <zhenguo> liusheng: lol
03:00:41 <zhenguo> oh time is up
03:00:59 <zhenguo> thanks y'all
03:01:07 <zhenguo> #endmeeting