14:02:11 <rkukura> #startmeeting networking_ml2
14:02:12 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Oct  9 14:02:11 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:02:15 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2'
14:03:12 <rkukura> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 Agenda
14:03:13 <uvirtbot> rkukura: Error: "link" is not a valid command.
14:04:09 <rkukura> mestery is not available today, so I'll chair today's meeting
14:04:27 <rkukura> not sure if I should worry about the uvirtbot errors?
14:04:46 <Sukhdev> good morning
14:05:13 <matrohon> hi
14:05:18 <doude> hi
14:05:39 <rkukura> I think today's meeting will be quick
14:05:56 <rkukura> Three items: RC2, docs, and summit
14:06:14 <rkukura> #topic RC2
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14:06:37 <rkukura> markmcclain is planning to cut RC2 tomorrow
14:07:08 <markmcclain> yes
14:07:16 <rkukura> One ML2 bug still in review and targeted for RC2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49644/
14:07:21 <Sukhdev> is there any blocker issue?
14:07:42 <rkukura> This is the 2nd part of fixing auto-deletion
14:08:11 <Sukhdev> so, this is a similar fix to network deletion, right
14:08:16 <rkukura> it was supposed to just do for delete_subnet what was already done for delete_network
14:08:24 <markmcclain> I've added 1234195 to RC2
14:08:51 <rkukura> but the review is exposing issues with DB locking
14:09:16 <matrohon> we should consider this https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1237082 for RC2
14:09:17 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1237082 in neutron "ml2 vxlan interface with linuxbridge use proxy mode" [Undecided,In progress]
14:10:18 <matrohon> vxlan without l2-pop is not functionnal anymore
14:10:24 <rkukura> on 1234195, I'm leaning towards not trying to add the "with_lockmode('update') calls, since they don't work with outer joins on postgress
14:10:26 <matrohon> with linuxbridge
14:10:38 <rkukura> and they don't necessarily prevent new rows from being added
14:10:53 <rkukura> question is - should we try to do some sort of table-level locking?
14:10:58 <rkukura> or leave this for later?
14:12:28 <rkukura> matrohon: 1237082 does have the havnana-rc-potential tag
14:13:27 <matrohon> rkukura : i'v put the tag, hope it will be considered for rc2
14:14:38 <rkukura> This looks straightforward, but may need a unit test
14:15:01 <rkukura> Lets try to get this in today
14:15:20 <rkukura> Any other patches or bugs that should be considered for RC2?
14:15:31 <matrohon> it is written and will be pushed as soon as tox have finished
14:15:50 <rkukura> matrohon: Great! I'll review it ASAP.
14:16:29 <matrohon> it will be toot hsort for rc2, but live-migration with l2-pop doesn't work
14:16:43 <matrohon> i will work on it asap
14:17:10 <rkukura> ok, anything else?
14:17:21 <markmcclain> matrohon: we can target that for fix for the first stable update
14:17:34 <matrohon> markmclain: great
14:17:48 <rkukura> #topic: Docs
14:17:50 <uvirtbot> rkukura: Error: "topic:" is not a valid command.
14:18:15 <doude> The l2-pop mechanism driver uses an ARP responder to avoid ARP broadcast but it only works with the LB agent. We need to implement an ARP responder for the OVS agent also.
14:18:35 <doude> I've open a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1237427
14:18:37 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1237427 in neutron "l2-pop ML2 mechanism driver need ARP responder with the OVS agent" [Undecided,New]
14:18:39 <rkukura> I know emagana got basic stuff on ML2 into the cloud admin guide
14:18:49 <doude> An ebtables manager could be able to do that. I've started a patch for that.
14:18:52 <doude> It's not too intruisive for the H release because it's only impact code if the l2-pop mechanism driver is enabled (that's not the case by default).
14:19:23 <rkukura> we can followup with more detail in the Cloud Admin Guide if needed
14:19:32 <doude> Do you think it could be implemented for the H release ?
14:20:26 <Sukhdev> On the subject of Docs, I have update/issue regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1230276
14:20:27 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1230276 in openstack-manuals "Add neutron ml2 plugin info to installation guide" [High,Confirmed]
14:20:27 <markmcclain> doude: no
14:20:56 <markmcclain> doude: we've basically run out of time, so we'll fix in Icehouse and then backport to Havana.1 release
14:21:31 <doude> markmcclain: ok
14:21:48 <rkukura> Sukhdev: go ahead
14:22:12 <Sukhdev> I pulled the latest information from Github regarding install-guide and built is, it shows Neutron Chapter empty with - FIXIT in it
14:22:31 <Sukhdev> so, it seems like there is no chapter on Neutron in Intall-Guide,
14:22:41 <Sukhdev> is this true?
14:23:40 <Sukhdev> I see Neutron in all other guides, but, not in istall-guide
14:23:58 <rkukura> annegentle_: Is neutron info in the install guide, or being added?
14:24:32 <annegentle_> rkukura: we are hoping you have people who are interested in adding it, testing it. The basic-install-files directory contains the grizzly release instructions, which could be updated and added
14:24:57 <annegentle_> rkukura: here's what's still needed http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2013-October/002936.html
14:25:13 <annegentle_> rkukura: Nermina Miller was going to reach out to you all to see if you have content to add
14:25:37 <rkukura> Sukhdev: Can you work with Nermina on this?
14:26:47 <rkukura> roaet: were you working on the config guide?
14:26:49 <Sukhdev> rkukura: can you give me their contact info and I will reach out
14:27:32 <rkukura> Sukhdev: Sure, should be in the previous email thread regarding the ML2 docs tasks, but I'll find it and resend
14:27:44 <Sukhdev> Ah OK - thanks
14:28:37 <Sukhdev> BTW, I started to work onhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron and noticed that under current project status, it talks about Folsom
14:28:59 <Sukhdev> So, this seems to be out of date
14:30:05 <Sukhdev> I added a section about Havana and ML2 update but did not touch other sections https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron
14:30:33 <rkukura> markmcclain: Do you know if the main neutron wiki page is slated for updating/cleanup?
14:30:58 <markmcclain> rkukura: it needs a clean-up
14:31:17 <markmcclain> I was hoping coordinate work on it after Havana releasae
14:31:23 <rkukura> Sukhdev: The new material looks good
14:31:51 <Sukhdev> Thanks....I was tempted to do it, but, was not sure if I mess with it
14:31:55 <rkukura> markmcclain: thanks
14:32:01 <Sukhdev> I mean clean up
14:32:21 <rkukura> Sukhdev: I think any of use can/should cleanup this sort of thing if we have the opportunity
14:32:52 <rkukura> Is roaet around?
14:33:21 <Sukhdev> I can remove the current project status and spread the information around appropriately -
14:33:41 <rkukura> Last I had from him on the config guide was regarding the mechanism being used to extract info from the code
14:35:23 <rkukura> We'll follow up on config guide later, but I think this is really important to have complete when havana ships
14:35:48 <rkukura> anything else on docs?
14:36:32 <rkukura> #topic Icehouse Design Summit topics
14:36:34 <uvirtbot> rkukura: Error: "topic" is not a valid command.
14:37:25 <rkukura> We brainstormed some candidates last week.
14:37:59 <rkukura> markmcclain said the cutoff to submit is 10/17, but I don't think we should wait til the last moment
14:38:30 <markmcclain> please don't :)
14:38:58 <rkukura> I'm thinking we should go ahead and submit our ideas rather than trying to pre-coordinate them into a small number of ml2 topics
14:39:50 <rkukura> Any objections to that plan?
14:41:26 <rkukura> Next week we can look at what has been submitted, see if anything is missing, and maybe come up with suggestions for markmcclain on what can be combined
14:42:09 <rkukura> anything else on the design summit?
14:42:10 <Sukhdev> is there a wiki listing what has already been propose/planned?
14:42:24 <rkukura> http://summit.openstack.org/
14:43:13 <rkukura> the minutes from last weeks ml2 meeting are at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2013/
14:43:32 <rkukura> #topic Open Discussion
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14:43:56 <rkukura> Anything else to discuss today?
14:44:12 <matrohon> do we consider having an ml2 agent with drivers for lb , ovs and others?
14:44:36 <matrohon> it is not listed in the last week minute
14:44:45 <rkukura> matrohon: I think that would make sense to propose
14:45:22 <rkukura> "14:39:23 <rkukura> modular agent is another"
14:46:18 <rkukura> matrohon: There were a lot of suggestions in the log that didn't make the minutes
14:46:24 <rkukura> Anything else for today?
14:47:04 <rkukura> Thanks everyone!
14:47:12 <Sukhdev> thanks
14:47:18 <matrohon> tahnks
14:47:23 <rkukura> #endmeeting