18:30:17 <sc68cal> #startmeeting networking_fwaas
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18:30:21 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas'
18:30:23 <sc68cal> #chair SridarK
18:30:24 <openstack> Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal
18:30:24 <SridarK> Hi All
18:30:29 <sc68cal> #chair xgerman
18:30:30 <openstack> Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman
18:31:50 <sc68cal> The status for me - pretty much the same. Haven't been able to focus on fwaas. I fear it's become the new normal
18:32:52 <SridarK> Some quick updates on Observer Hierarchy
18:33:07 <SridarK> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278863/
18:33:17 <SridarK> I have been working with the submitter
18:33:35 <SridarK> i have some comments but i think we are making progress
18:34:40 <SridarK> we may need to do some rework on how we handle the notifications
18:34:54 <sc68cal> perfect. getting that work done would be very good, since we can decouple from the neutron l3 agent
18:35:06 <SridarK> I think we will continue to push to get this in next couple of weeks
18:35:37 <sc68cal> excellent
18:36:07 <SridarK> Some other updates on vendor decomp
18:36:40 <SridarK> vArmour - the prime contact is out and said he will reach out next week for a discussion
18:37:15 <SridarK> vyatta - in conversation - dont have a final thing to report back
18:38:01 <sc68cal> SridarK: thank you for reaching out to these groups
18:38:06 <SridarK> cisco - we can get it out - as we have already moved out the L3 implementation - so this is not a problem - we will target by N2 just to make sure if any documentation is needed
18:38:20 <SridarK> sc68cal: no worries - so we should be cleaned up
18:38:28 <SridarK> this cycle
18:38:44 <sc68cal> I suppose what concerns me is the fact that we don't know off the top of our heads what the status of these drivers are, by their respective companies
18:39:10 <sc68cal> we are basically the maintainers of code that may or may not be a priority for any of these companies
18:39:20 <SridarK> sc68cal: yes agreed - it is likely that there is some outside implementation existing as well
18:39:57 <sc68cal> We're all in agreement that the v1 API and driver API is not going to undergo any change, perhaps ever again
18:40:12 <SridarK> sc68cal: yes
18:40:14 <sc68cal> so sure, people can develop drivers for it, we'll honor that contract
18:40:23 <SridarK> +1
18:40:41 <sc68cal> but these drivers in our tree - can be moved into big tent repos that each company has, or could have
18:40:51 <xgerman> +1
18:40:51 <sc68cal> and they can control their own destiny
18:41:21 <SridarK> +1 it is much easier from the vendor perspective too
18:42:55 <sc68cal> anything else to discuss?
18:43:08 <xgerman> design sessions?
18:43:27 <xgerman> should we ask for one and if so how (other than the ether pad)
18:44:17 <SridarK> i think the session or discussion regarding iptables that xgerman: added would be good
18:45:04 <SridarK> xgerman: good u added that given that having a clean i/f and not stepping other features is imp
18:45:31 <xgerman> yeah, I got some pushback to rather use the ML
18:45:50 <xgerman> but will try to work our contacts
18:46:30 <SridarK> yes agreed - a quick whiteboard discussion could be fruitful for mickeys
18:47:52 <sc68cal> If we need design summit sessions, is armax who to contact?
18:48:11 <xgerman> yes
18:48:19 <xgerman> unless he delegated that --
18:48:29 <xgerman> we can also ask dougwig to lobby own our behalf
18:49:14 <sc68cal> ok. Let's try and give them a firm idea of what we need quickly so we don't make them scramble
18:49:26 <SridarK> my sense is that we may need some fwaas specific discussions across the contributors anyways
18:49:42 <SridarK> from the broader audience - perhaps iptables interactions is the key thing
18:50:11 <SridarK> Also while on this, what needs to be done with the v2 spec - do we just carry that forward
18:50:30 <SridarK> i mean in terms of approvals etc
18:51:41 <xgerman> yeah, I think we carry forward
18:51:54 <SridarK> ok
18:52:25 <xgerman> unless we learn new things at the summit which would make us change it
18:52:59 <xgerman> there might be some new projects we can leverage… though I doubt it
18:53:09 <SridarK> ok may be we can freeze on what we have and keep that as the target for N
18:55:26 <xgerman> that makes sense
18:55:35 <mickeys> +1
18:57:32 <sc68cal> I have to head out in a couple minutes
18:57:42 <xgerman> ok, I think we are done anyway
18:57:55 <SridarK> yes i did not have much more to add either
18:58:06 <xgerman> #endmeeting