18:30:52 #startmeeting Networking FWaaS 18:30:53 Meeting started Wed Sep 9 18:30:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:30:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:30:57 The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' 18:31:00 hello all 18:31:03 #chair xgerman 18:31:04 Current chairs: SridarK xgerman 18:31:22 o/ 18:31:37 SridarK: I have to run for a quick errand. You could discuss the FWaaS fip bug with xgerman and he would fill me in later. 18:31:47 probab a quick one today as there is not too much in terms of bp stuff 18:31:56 sure 18:31:59 bharath: no issues 18:32:04 #topic bugs 18:32:16 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1492142 18:32:17 Launchpad bug 1492142 in neutron "FWaaS: FIP namespace created after/before Firewall creation doesn't contain FW rules" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sridar Kandaswamy (skandasw) 18:32:54 in terms of update, clearly an issue, have been running thru the code and with the L3Agent refactor things have changed 18:33:07 thanks to bharath: for nailing this down 18:33:16 bharath +1 18:33:22 Hi SridarK, sorry for late :( 18:33:47 i will continue investigation and update the bug, but we may need to cover this as part of the observer hierarchy so we can get updates on events 18:34:02 let me look thru the code more and then discuss 18:34:10 fine sridark 18:34:22 ok, we are on some tight deadline so if we can help let us know 18:34:29 please let me know if you need any help 18:34:49 xgerman: sure, do we want to call this a Must Fix for this release ? 18:35:00 sridark did we miss this as part of our testing 18:35:20 badveli: the code is very different from when we worked on this in Juno 18:35:21 i think we tested one scenario 18:35:22 to ping 18:35:36 ok, thanks 18:35:48 SridarK yep 18:35:52 essentially there are parts in the guts of L3 Agent that trigger a notification to FWaaS 18:36:18 pc_m had recommendation early April to move to an Observer hierarchy, i did this for vyatta firewall, had plans to have it available for neutron-fwaas but somehow it slipped 18:36:26 the intent of the observer model was to clean up the L3 Agent from other Service stuff 18:37:10 should we go with the observer model 18:37:13 vishwanathj: yes, for FWaaS community too this was the plan but then with some of the uncertainty - i think we did not really prioritize this 18:37:25 SridarK, agree 18:37:31 badveli: yes that is a call we want to take now 18:37:53 I like clean code but RC-1 is around 9/21 — so real tight 18:37:56 if we want to do that now as part of RC 18:38:03 xgerman: yes exactly 18:38:31 xgerman: so if we can manage with the workaround for L then we can target observer hierarchy for M 18:38:41 agreed 18:38:58 SridarK, what's the workaround? 18:39:07 vishwanathj: restart the agent 18:39:32 well, you can just re-add the router 18:39:40 on the command line 18:39:47 xgerman: ok 18:40:02 The impact is only to the reference implementation, right? 18:40:21 I haven’t tested on other implementations 18:40:21 xgerman: perhaps we can discuss more offline and update the bug and decide on next steps 18:40:29 +1 18:40:45 but if somebody can test on 3rd party and update the bug that would be great 18:41:09 vishwanathj: can u do that for vyatta ? 18:41:34 I will certainly take it up with my team 18:41:45 thanks 18:41:52 sridark since the update was not proper, should it be the same for others implementation 18:41:53 xgerman: +1 18:42:20 badveli: it would depend on each, for cisco for ex - we have our own agent so no issue 18:42:41 for vyatta - i think vishwanathj: has fixed it 18:43:02 ok, cool 18:43:08 ok good lets discuss this offline and publish the next step into the bug 18:43:19 +1 18:43:24 SridarK, yes we use the observer hierachy, hence was trying to confirm that this impacted only the reference implementation 18:43:40 vishwanathj: thx yes agreed 18:44:05 the other bug that got some discussion time last mtg was: 18:44:09 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1491637 18:44:11 Launchpad bug 1491637 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Error when adding a new Firewall Rule" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rob Cresswell (robcresswell) 18:44:22 this has been picked up by Rob 18:44:50 i did not get a chance to check in with him on it - i don't have any further updates - others pls add if u know more 18:45:30 can we decide for each bug on the importance? 18:45:57 xgerman: agreed 18:46:19 i think this was critical according to the submitter as he could not create rules 18:46:26 on horizon 18:47:29 i don't believe there are any other critical ones to discuss 18:47:38 unless other folks have things they want to bring up 18:48:40 only on bug front or Blue prints 18:48:45 on bugs 18:48:53 SridarK, i verified that hte horizon bug indeed exists, more of FYI 18:49:38 vishwanathj: thx, yes and it is assigned - so should get addressed - i will ping Rob as well 18:50:13 Ok lets move on 18:50:29 #topic Roadmap 18:51:01 sridark before this i have one update 18:51:12 yes pls 18:51:24 i have my neutron patch with the unit tests working as mentioned in previous meeting 18:51:37 except the reference implementation 18:51:44 ok lets cover this as part of this topic as well 18:51:53 do we have a chance 18:52:02 to put in rc? 18:52:15 u will need to get an FFE 18:52:25 seems like a hard sell now 18:52:28 yep, and they like to have Blueprints 18:53:27 xgerman:does it mean we cannot get FFE 18:53:27 badveli: i know u have been working hard on this, but perhaps it is easiest to shoot for M and get it in M1 18:54:07 badveli we can try — if you give me the blueprint I can ask mestery 18:54:22 but it’s tight 18:54:26 badveli: my sense is that if the patch was in active review and just missed the deadline ur chances are higher 18:54:36 thanks xerman 18:54:42 but worth as shot as xgerman says 18:55:09 fine sridark, xgerman 18:56:03 but with reference implementation missing, sorry this is what i could do with my time 18:56:38 badveli: no worries, lets see if something happens else we get this in for M1 18:56:42 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-fwaas-roadmap-mitaka-summit 18:56:52 ok thanks 18:57:13 could we start capturing things that we can bring up for discussion at the summit on this etherpad 18:57:41 i tried to put together some prelim stuff and reflect on our recent discussions 18:57:42 also we need to put some topics into the design session ether pad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit 18:58:07 SridarK that looks good 18:58:15 xgerman: +1 perhaps we can put a summary and point to the details in our etherpad 18:58:27 yep, that’s what I am thinking 18:58:38 xgerman: ok perfect 18:58:54 i have linked mickeys etherpad here as well 18:58:58 ok i will outline the bp link for DVR east west 18:59:04 cool 18:59:12 badveli: i added service groups and u can expand that out 18:59:38 yes and the DVR east west blue print 19:00:26 Also do u think we can get some early inputs from deployers for helping drive requirements and priorities 19:00:40 i just threw some names out there, but pls add 19:01:08 well, I think we need to do some serious API design 19:01:24 to map use cases to API... 19:01:34 xgerman: yes for sure and hoping that use cases will help 19:01:54 xgerman: but yes this can be a 2 way relationship 19:02:05 +1 19:02:40 xgerman: do u think we can get some inputs for HP 19:02:45 *from HP 19:02:48 yes, we can 19:02:52 perfect 19:02:52 yes 19:03:10 was just saying jwarendt is in touch with our FWaaS guys 19:03:17 or FW 19:03:38 ok great 19:04:03 I know RAX had some interest and Walmart Labs as well 19:04:18 RAX should have more bandwidth after the summit 19:04:29 will be nice to kick start the summit with a few common use cases 19:04:42 yeah 19:04:43 xgerman: ok 19:04:56 will help our prioritization 19:05:10 ok let me stop rambling :-) 19:05:31 sballe is now with Intel so we might get them as well ;-) 19:05:45 so we can try to populate areas in the etherpad and also reach out to deployers 19:05:52 xgerman: hmm did not know that 19:06:01 but intel is very much interested too 19:06:07 yep 19:06:17 so good we can get some use cases going 19:06:46 we have all the use cases in trello so we can prioritize and work on the API mappingnin Tokyo 19:06:59 +1 19:07:00 and then start implementing for M 19:07:49 Anything else anyone wants to bring up 19:08:32 will there be a recording for the sessions 19:08:43 or watch 19:08:49 badveli: yes usually put on youtube 19:08:51 mmh, usually things get noted on the etherpad 19:08:56 for design summit 19:09:08 thanks xgerman 19:09:12 summit talks are on youtube as SridarK mentioned 19:09:41 #topic Open Discussion 19:09:55 I am hoping we can have a mid cycle which might be easier to reach for the people not going to Tokyo 19:10:25 but that’s more for the December-February timeframe 19:10:53 xgerman: i think timing wise that will be good - time for some push on things we can get in and some retrospective 19:11:27 xgerman: sounds great. I'd like to attend that. 19:11:38 xgerman: are u planning to propose this in Hawaii ? ;-) 19:11:59 well, we need to look at travel budgets 19:12:24 also often they are where some compnay can host with conference rooms and wifi 19:12:39 xgerman: just kidding 19:12:57 I am all in for Hawaii :-) 19:14:17 sc68cal probably will root for Philly ;-) 19:14:35 in Dec hmm :-( 19:14:51 yushiro: i hope u also saw the alternate time next week so it is more friendly for APAC 19:15:33 SridarK: yeah. Thanks. However, I don't feel sleepy :) 19:15:42 yushiro: :-) 19:16:06 so we do alternate on times week by week 19:16:21 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Firewall_as_a_Service_(FWaaS)_Team_Meeting 19:16:41 also note different channel on the other week 19:16:54 ok if nothing else, we can close things out 19:17:05 +1 19:17:17 SridarK: SridarK: Sorry for last week, i could not attend the meeting because of Vietnam national holiday 19:17:35 hoangcx: no worries - we were just not sure if things got missed 19:18:12 SridarK: I couldn't attend the previous meeting because I was attending the wrong channel ... :( I do take care of the channel. 19:18:29 yushiro: oops ok 19:18:45 ok then bye all until next week 19:18:56 #endmeeting