17:01:51 <SumitNaiksatam> #startmeeting Networking Advanced Services
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17:02:06 <sbalukoff> +1 to short meeting
17:02:14 <johnsom> o/
17:02:26 <kobis> hi
17:02:33 <SumitNaiksatam> #info SPD has passed, next milestone in terms of specs is dec 15th
17:02:41 <SumitNaiksatam> #info SAD is 12-15-2014
17:02:45 <SridarK> Hi
17:02:47 <SumitNaiksatam> #info Kilo-1 is 12-18-2014
17:02:51 <mestery> FYI: We've already started moving lots of specs out of Kilo
17:02:53 <mestery> See my email to the list
17:03:14 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: yes, thanks for that update
17:03:19 <mestery> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron-drivers
17:03:20 <SumitNaiksatam> saw that email
17:03:27 <mestery> See the bottom there for the reasoning we're using.
17:03:39 <mestery> A lot of the removals were around plugin decomposition, or lack of community consensus.
17:03:48 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: okay
17:03:56 <SumitNaiksatam> i havent checked the latest list
17:04:03 <SumitNaiksatam> what got booted out
17:04:16 <SumitNaiksatam> but i guess we can bring any concerns in the open discussion
17:04:27 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic Advanced services’ split
17:04:39 <dougwig> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/services_split
17:04:46 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: thanks
17:04:50 <dougwig> status is in there, as well as a few separable tasks that people can help with.
17:05:01 <mestery> We need mindless coders soon
17:05:02 <mestery> ;)
17:05:09 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: :-)
17:05:42 <SumitNaiksatam> i thought we could use today’s meeting just to quickly sync up on this activity and see how we can get people to help out with the pending tasks
17:05:57 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: nice to have this list in that context
17:06:25 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: are the items in the order of priority on the etherpad?
17:06:44 <SumitNaiksatam> some of these things need to go in lock-step i guess
17:06:53 <dougwig> SumitNaiksatam: and pc_m: blogan is working on the lbaas alembic chains.  Once he's got that sorted out, we'll need someone to *quickly* do the same for vpn/fw, as the db stuff is gating most of the test fixing.
17:07:14 <mestery> We need this to land first https://review.openstack.org/140225
17:07:20 <mestery> It's in the merge queue
17:07:27 <mestery> Then we need this to land: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140164
17:07:42 <mestery> This involves watching these, working with infra and QA to get them merged
17:07:44 <dougwig> the second disables advanced services tempest testing.
17:07:45 <mestery> Lots of IRC time
17:07:54 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: the first one seems to have passed jenkins
17:07:55 <blogan> mestery: im pretty mindless today, so im your man
17:08:14 <mestery> SumitNaiksatam: It's in the merge queue now, do you use http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ to watch these things?
17:08:18 <mestery> blogan: lol
17:09:11 <mestery> Anyways, once these land ,we can land this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139901/
17:09:24 <mestery> Though we need to look at garyk's question there yet
17:09:54 <blogan> indeed
17:09:55 <mestery> So that's where things are at a high level here.
17:10:01 <mestery> Thanks to dougwig for doing most of hte legwork here.
17:10:19 <mestery> dougwig is doing some awesome stuff here.
17:10:20 <blogan> dougwig i don't care what mestery says about you, you're alright
17:10:29 <mestery> blogan: rofl
17:10:48 <dougwig> sigh.  :)
17:11:03 <sbalukoff> haha
17:11:28 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140164 is mat treinish looking at it?
17:11:36 <dougwig> anyone have questions?  if you want to take on a task, please note it on the etherpad or ping me
17:11:55 <xgerman> I am stull looking for something simple :-)
17:11:59 <dougwig> that one needs a 'recheck' once the skip review merges.
17:12:19 <blogan> why did i have to pick the one that everythign depends on
17:12:22 <dougwig> xgerman: #1, #2, or #4
17:12:54 <xgerman> #1 it is
17:12:58 <dougwig> SumitNaiksatam: it's on infra's radar, as soon as the other change merges and we get it's gate passing.
17:13:08 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: ok great
17:13:17 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: on the query: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/firewall/.*+OR+status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/vpn/.*+OR+status:open+project:openstack/neutron+file:%255E.*/db/loadbalancer/.,n,z
17:13:32 <SumitNaiksatam> it seems to be returning non-split related patches as well
17:13:39 <dougwig> that was for mestery, to temporarily -2 all services code during the split.
17:13:47 <mestery> ack
17:13:53 <dougwig> yes, a completely clean query is darn near impossible.  it's just kinda close.
17:13:59 <dougwig> thanks to anteaya for creating that.
17:14:27 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig: ah ok
17:14:50 <anteaya> o/
17:15:00 <mestery> Did you guys read the emails on all of this to list?
17:15:10 <mestery> We've sent lots of information here, perhaps it all wasn't clear.
17:15:38 <SumitNaiksatam> blogan: do you have a WIP patch for the alembic migrations?
17:16:02 <dougwig> SumitNaiksatam: he just started a few minutes ago.  he's awesome, but i expect he needs a few.  :)
17:16:12 <mestery> SumitNaiksatam: Are you planning to review that patch when blogan is done?
17:16:37 <SumitNaiksatam> dougwig, mestery: ah okay, i was asking if we needed to start doing this in parallel for fwaas and vpnaas as well
17:16:55 <blogan> SumitNaiksatam: what dougwig said, minus the awesome part
17:17:01 <dougwig> check with blogan on when more hands will help there.
17:17:07 <SumitNaiksatam> i dont want to duplicate efforts, but we can start in parallel if blogan is just getting started
17:17:32 <blogan> SumitNaiksatam: you can definitely start setting up the alembic structure, that should take a few seconds
17:17:38 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: yes happy to review
17:17:40 <blogan> for fwaas and vpnaas
17:17:59 <blogan> bc im doing it for lbaas right now, after that itll just be repeat
17:18:11 <mestery> good idea blogan
17:18:28 <SumitNaiksatam> so i guess, based on the number of folks from the lbaas team here, i think the lbaas action items are covered
17:18:49 <blogan> well i was going to do do this for fwaas and vpnaas as well
17:18:56 <xgerman> awesome
17:19:00 <blogan> but since i dont have the domain knowledge i'd need yalls help on that
17:19:01 <SumitNaiksatam> blogan: ah okay
17:19:12 * mestery wonders why we're covering LBAAS items in this meeting when the LBAAS meeting just happened
17:19:15 <mestery> I guess people really like meetings?
17:19:44 <blogan> im not a manager, so i dont like meetings
17:19:54 <SumitNaiksatam> are the items on the vpnaas side of things covered?
17:20:08 <sbalukoff> Mentioning the term 'lbaas' doesn't intrinsically mean we're actually discussing said items. XD
17:20:26 <xgerman> we are just the most awesome :-)
17:20:37 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: we are not just covering lbaas items, that was the first thing i was checking on
17:20:39 <sballe> Everybody like LBaaS :-)
17:20:46 <dougwig> alright, let's pull back and focus here.
17:20:47 <sbalukoff> We're also the biggest jerks.
17:20:50 <mestery> sballe: ++
17:20:57 <mestery> sbalukoff: rofl
17:21:01 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: next i wanted to check if the pending items had owners on the fwaas and vpnaas side as well
17:21:34 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: if you think the coordination is not required is not required at this stage, i guess we can move on
17:21:52 <dougwig> we don't have individuals identified for fixing unit tests for each repo, though that will need to wait for the alembic stuff.  likely the same person will do all of the tempest re-enabling/jobs.
17:21:53 <mestery> I think we're doing it on the etherpad and in the various channels
17:21:58 <dougwig> mestery: +1
17:22:01 <mestery> And in email
17:22:35 <SumitNaiksatam> i guess pcm is not here for the vpnaas side of things
17:23:11 <dougwig> he's here in person.  :)
17:23:29 <mestery> He's actually working right now as well :)
17:23:31 <dougwig> currently talking with the l3 refactor guys, but i could throw my red bull and hit him.
17:23:36 <mestery> coding and discussing refactoring in the room I believe
17:23:38 <mestery> rofl
17:23:38 <SumitNaiksatam> mestery: so are we
17:23:39 <SridarK> dougwig: SumitNaiksatam: mestery: i can take a swag on the UT stuff for FWaaS  or anything else so pls feel free to throw me into the fire. I am in another mtg now and hard to keep up
17:23:57 <dougwig> SridarK: ok, we'll keep you posted once the alembic stuff goes in.
17:24:06 <SridarK> dougwig: cool
17:24:18 <SumitNaiksatam> #topic Open Discussion
17:24:37 <SumitNaiksatam> so seems like we are covered on the split discussion between the various modes of communication
17:24:45 <SumitNaiksatam> anything else we want to discuss today?
17:24:53 <johnsom> What is the status of the meet up?
17:25:19 <blogan> johnsom: lbaas meetup?
17:25:21 <SumitNaiksatam> johnsom: i would imagine that we get done with the split mechanics first
17:25:37 <johnsom> No, advanced services kilo midcycle
17:25:56 <mestery> johnsom: What do you want to accomplish at that meetup?
17:26:02 <mestery> The work to do the split will be done this week.
17:26:06 <blogan> i assumed there wouldn't be one with each service splitting up into its own project, however we can discuss after
17:26:12 <mestery> I'm unclear what the objective for an advanced services meetup would bve
17:26:19 <mestery> It's not needed from my perspective
17:26:26 <blogan> +1
17:26:40 <johnsom> That is kind of my question, are we still having it, what is the topic, etc.
17:26:54 * mestery notes dougwig said he's +1 to my idea too but he's eating a muffin at the moment
17:26:54 <mestery> ;)
17:26:58 <mestery> johnsom: No
17:27:17 <xgerman> mmh - muffins
17:27:21 <mestery> lol
17:27:35 <johnsom> Ok, thanks!
17:27:44 <mestery> johnsom: Sure!
17:27:54 <SumitNaiksatam> anything else folks for today?
17:28:01 <SumitNaiksatam> else back to the split!
17:28:25 <SumitNaiksatam> alright thanks all!
17:28:28 <SumitNaiksatam> #endmeeting